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The Right wing of the GOP threatens the RNC that they wil take their ball and go home

eric strt6

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Sep 8, 2001
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Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP
By Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News


A group of high-profile social conservatives warned Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus in a letter this week that their supporters could abandon the GOP if the party seeks to change its position on social issues, particularly same-sex marriage.
Thirteen social conservatives, representing various influential groups, wrote Priebus ahead of the RNC's quarterly meeting this week in Los Angeles to sternly rebuke the conclusions of a post-election report that advised Republican elected officials to adopt a softer tone toward social issues.
"We respectfully warn GOP Leadership that an abandonment of its principles will necessarily result in the abandonment of our constituents to their support," concludes the letter, which was obtained by and independently verified by NBC News in advance of the meeting this week.
The letter further asks GOP committeemen to pass a resolution at their meeting this week re-affirming the party's 2012 national platform, which includes language calling for bans on abortion and same-sex marriage.
"Chairman Priebus agrees that we must stand up for our conservative principles while we work together to grow our party and win elections and has been traveling the country with that message," said Kirsten Kukowski, an RNC spokeswoman. Furthermore, she said that a resolution re-affirming the platform was currently being drafted, and would likely win approval from the full RNC this Friday.
The Growth and Opportunity Project report, commissioned by Priebus in the wake of Republicans' losses in last fall's elections, offered a number of recommendations for the party to broaden its appeal and be more competitive in future national elections.
Among its recommendations were that Republican officials speak with a more welcoming tone on social issues, particularly abortion rights and gay rights, the latter of which the report said had become a "gateway" for whether young voters decide whether to identify as Republicans.
To that end, several high-profile Republicans have emerged in recent weeks (along with a slew of elected Democrats) to back marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples, including Sens. Rob Portman, Ohio, and Mark Kirk, Ill.
Much of the conservatives' letter to Priebus stresses the issue of gay rights, and challenges the logic of the Growth and Opportunity Project's advice to broaden the party's appeal. Holding the line against same-sex marriage, the letter argues, would allow Republicans to make better inroads, for instance, into more traditionally-minded corners of the African American community.
"It is the faith-based community which offers Republicans their best hope of expanding their support in these groups," the signatories wrote. "Going 'vanilla' or even changing long held positions would quickly end this opportunity."
The conservatives additionally expressed their anger at what they said was an insinuation that they had treated gays and lesbians unkindly.
"The fact that the party is strongly committed to traditional marriage has not prevented their involvement through GOProud or Log Cabin Republicans," they wrote. "We deeply resent the insinuation that we have treated homosexuals unkindly personally."
The letter speaks to the difficulties Republican leaders face in their efforts to broaden the GOP's appeal. While party leaders have spoken, for instance, about the need to pass comprehensive immigration reform to appeal to the increasingly important Latino electorate, there are corners of the conservative establishment which harbor deep resistance to reform.
“This letter makes it perfectly clear that the GOP is caught between a rock and hard place. For decades, they’ve made a devil’s bargain with the Religious Right, and now they’re finding that they can’t reach out to moderate voters without totally alienating the base," said Michael Keegan, the president of People for the American Way, about the GOP's struggles. “There’s no question that continuing to pander to the Religious Right is a recipe for becoming a permanent minority party. We’ll see this week if the RNC is ready to contemplate making some tough changes or if they’re just going to keep drifting towards irrelevance.”
The same is generally true for leaders who have called for a more inclusive tone on social issues. Republican leaders are quick to note the missteps of Senate candidates Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana, and how their comments about rape and abortion both cost them each a chance at a Senate seat, and weighed nationally upon Republicans.
In response, social conservatives have begun to flex their muscle within the GOP to assert their relevance as a major part of the modern GOP's foundation. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who became a darling among social conservatives during his 2008 presidential campaign, has also warned social conservatives could abandon the Republican establishment. He told Newsmax magazine that if the GOP shifts its position on same-sex marriage, "they're going to lose a large part of their base because evangelicals will take a walk."
The signatories to this week's letter were:
Gary Bauer, President, American Values
Paul Caprio, Director, Family-Pac Federal
Marjorie Dannenfelser, President, Susan B. Anthony List
Dr. James Dobson, President and Founder, Family Talk Action
Andrea Lafferty, President, Traditional Values Coalition
Tom Minnery, Executive Director, CitizenLink
William J. Murray, Chairman, Religious Freedom Coalition
Tony Perkins, President, Family Research Council
Sandy Rios, VP of Government Affairs, Family-Pac Federal
Austin Ruse, President, Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute
Phyllis Schlafly, President, Eagle Forum
Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Founder, Traditional Values Coalition
Tim Wildmon, President, American Family Association
 

Pesqueeb

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I pray to the FSM for such a thing will happen. They don't want to admit it, but neither one is going to survive without the other. The GOP and the evangelicals social conservatives are a host/parasite relationship at it's finest. Splitting up makes them both even less relevant than they are now.
 

valve bouncer

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Feb 11, 2002
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Didn't these dinosaurs get cockslapped into oblivion last November? They're condemning themselves to a generation out of office if they split.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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yes, they'll take their ball & go home just like the anti-war types did when obama was [re-]elected

#plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
 

Beef Supreme

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Tears of impotent rage. Be mean to gays or we'll hold our breath.



It cracks me up. These people don't have any other options and everybody knows it including them. It's not exactly like the dixiecrats in the sixties where there was another party that was equally if not more racist. The could run a third party candidate and cut off their nose to spite their face but that is about it.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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i'm pretty sure lack of votes is the biggest cause of lost elections, but wtf do i know?
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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if ashley todd & this dude are any indicator, the right gets slightly more clever w/ each election
 

mattmatt86

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Feb 9, 2005
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I imagine in their deluded minds it was the more moderate canidates that cost them the election and not the other way around.
Exactly, the (semi)smart GOPers realize they have to move to the middle on social issues for any chance of survival. The truly crazy evangelical GOPers think they need to "sure up their base" and take an even more extreme stance on issues, i.e "rape baby God's Gift" laws. I love it though, they can't even keep their own house in order while condemning everyone else. I honestly hope there is a big rift in the GOP and a newer, younger, more moderate core can form, one that doesn't focus so much on social issues (while at the same time telling big gov't to get out of personal matters), realizes that Reganomics and "trickle down" don't work, and has an overall more positive message (I'm sick of doom and gloom). While at the same time the hardcore white-haired GOPers continue their bible thumping, racist, homophobic ways which alienates them more and more and shrinks their numbers with each passing day.
 

Jm_

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But why, $tinke, why? One could use science to find out but that would be akin to docking with the devil.
Why use science when the bible explains everything!?

I would fully support a Palin/Bachman ticket, and what we need to do is somehow have the Democratic party fund them to get them "in the race". Then hilarity and endless laughter/entertainment would ensue. Watching those two is real proof that people really ARE that stupid. Not all of them, but many of them, that believe in chemtrails, wild conspiracies, that the government is going to take their guns, that a secret society is about to impose communism (glenbecktopia), etc...

God, I hope it happens!
 

AngryMetalsmith

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Why use science when the bible explains everything!?

I would fully support a Palin/Bachman ticket, and what we need to do is somehow have the Democratic party fund them to get them "in the race". Then hilarity and endless laughter/entertainment would ensue. Watching those two is real proof that people really ARE that stupid. Not all of them, but many of them, that believe in chemtrails, wild conspiracies, that the government is going to take their guns, that a secret society is about to impose communism (glenbecktopia), etc...

God, I hope it happens!
No...no, no, no !

There are just enough voting idiots to elect them. And that would be disastrous for the US and the planet. At least choose a candidate that is capable of understanding the job description.
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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No...no, no, no !

There are just enough voting idiots to elect them. And that would be disastrous for the US and the planet. At least choose a candidate that is capable of understanding the job description.
Naw, I think Pain tanked McCain-a fairly moderate Republican.
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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Exactly, the (semi)smart GOPers realize they have to move to the middle on social issues for any chance of survival. The truly crazy evangelical GOPers think they need to "sure up their base" and take an even more extreme stance on issues, i.e "rape baby God's Gift" laws. I love it though, they can't even keep their own house in order while condemning everyone else. I honestly hope there is a big rift in the GOP and a newer, younger, more moderate core can form, one that doesn't focus so much on social issues (while at the same time telling big gov't to get out of personal matters), realizes that Reganomics and "trickle down" don't work, and has an overall more positive message (I'm sick of doom and gloom). While at the same time the hardcore white-haired GOPers continue their bible thumping, racist, homophobic ways which alienates them more and more and shrinks their numbers with each passing day.
Modern Dems are basically moderate Republicans already.
 

mattmatt86

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2005
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Sadly, no. The fact that it survived past the Iraq war proves it cannot be killed. If they survived the WMD, freedom fries, emboldening the terrorists sh!tshow of stupid, then it will survive anything.
I'll agree it's surviving, but what is it going to take for them to grow? (not that I want that to happen) Seriously? They all thought they were on easy street and were going to walk right into the whitehouse last November then they got C*ckslapped, what has to happen for them to regain the dominance they once had?
 

dante

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Feb 13, 2004
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Kid Rock On Republicans: 'I'm F--king Embarrassed'

If Kid Rock is embarrassed, you have crossed the line.

/thread
teh article said:
As previously reported, Kid Rock is planning a tour and trying to keep ticket prices at $20. He hasn't been completely successful, however, because of ticketing fees and states that have outlawed paperless ticketing. Guess who is to blame:

"That's one of the times I'm f--king embarrassed to be a Republican," Rock said. "It's f--king Republican lawmakers passing those laws, you dumbasses. They already did it in New York and they're trying to do it in Michigan. I've even called some of those guys to try and stop it."
So.... Supports the GOP in all of their over-the-top bullsh!t pro-corporate regulations except.... (wait for it) when it affects him.

Call me shocked.