yea, drugs do too. but they go through forced degradation testing first, which determines how quickly they can run accelerated. [edit - we do forced degradation on an increasing amount of our stuff too]
we have products with 10 year shelf life.
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we have products with 10 year shelf life.
I will never eat Ricotta cheese again since I got food poisoning from it that almost killed me. Seriously. Ambulance, ER, etc. Got food poisoning again from bad sushi. I take no chances whatsoever with potentially spoiled food. And I’m a total fucking inflexible asshole about it.
what is forced degradation for drugs? For us it's typically gamma irradiation at higher dosage targets (40-60kGy) prior to the clock starting on samples.
exposure to high & low temps, RH, light, moisture, stuff like that which will cause the API to degrade/break down
elevated irradiation doses are just the "worst case" assessment, not forced degradation.
Being that our consumables are all single-use, plastic film/tubing based products, the gamma does definitely cause degradation of materials to varying degrees. Whether or not it is defined as such, performance and longevity at max operating conditions post-gamma are definitely a form of forced degradation.
I worked in an analytical development lab that was close to manufacturing and packaging. They had some pretty neat equipment for testing this stuff- environmental chambers for high temp and humidity, and a really interesting machine that could basically test how the stuff would do after transport in a truck. It basically bounced/vibrated the package up and down like actual transport in a truck. It was pretty neat, but I'm not sure there's a way to test longevity other than waiting.
ISTA-2A is the standard packaging/shipping validation we follow (I believe its individual boxes < 75lb for standard shipping? Krankypants would know)
2A is 150lbs, but is only a partial simulation. we run 3A.
yea, that's a good portion of what we do - distribution simulation.
what do you make again? product category that is
Here's our portfolio in the specific segment/products I've been working on since 2018. Single use and integrated systems (hardware and consumables) for upstream and downstream bioprocessing. I've been working on the perfusion system for cell culture harvesting, having launched lab scale a couple years ago and process scale to launch in the next couple months.
gotcha. I'm in orthopedic implants, eg stuff that gets permanently implanted in the human body. regulatory requirements are a bit higher for us.
This is sort of my baby, until the process scale version launches, which has 10x the components/configurations, and WAY more complicated/diverse manufacturing/testing processes and equipment and quality/validation documentation for launch.
Did everything from the molded component design and manufacturing/equipment process development and validation for everything, Absolute shitload of work but holy shit is it satisfying and fulfilling to see something you made from the ground up leave the warehouse to go to customers.
Did everything from the molded component design and manufacturing/equipment process development and validation for everything, Absolute shitload of work but holy shit is it satisfying and fulfilling to see something you made from the ground up leave the warehouse to go to customers.
the people who are able to explain expiration dating to twits like you?Well, we've definitely determined who the thread-derailing assholes are.
I don't care about that shit...
with that attitude, this streak won't continue:I don't care about that shit...
Perhaps he has this thing called common sense?
have you met the guy?Perhaps he has this thing called common sense?
*checks website we're on*Perhaps he has this thing called common sense?
*checks website we're on*
I've got some Greek yogurt in the fridge with a "date" of 09/11/22 - at some point I'll open 'er up and give a smell and if it's not off... game on!
no
I have! remember that tale about the bad hot dog and covering the walls and iirc the ceiling of a campground toilet stall with liquid shit. ah yes, the good ol' days
Almost everyone I know has had food poisoning (anecdotally) at some point. Except my wife and myself (and my kids, AFAIK).
I mean, yoghurt is just rotten milk, so nothing to go wrong here.I've got some Greek yogurt in the fridge with a "date" of 09/11/22 - at some point I'll open 'er up and give a smell and if it's not off... game on!
That's kinda what I'm thinking...I mean, yoghurt is just rotten milk, so nothing to go wrong here.
Uh huh…
Get it bad enough and you get to shove suppositories up yer ass for a week because you can’t stop shitting.
I learned a couple of very valuable lessons when I was in my early twenties. Sometimes it just isn’t worth the risk trying to “save money” by eating questionable food. But go ahead and roll the dice with your four month old yogurt.
We are on the same page! *virtual high five*That's kinda what I'm thinking...
Murican greek yoghurts are sterile the moment they leave the dairy factory so this is a safe bet.I've got some Greek yogurt in the fridge with a "date" of 09/11/22 - at some point I'll open 'er up and give a smell and if it's not off... game on!
pasteurization is not the same as sterilization.
edit to add: it's only required to pasteurize the milk prior to culturing the yogurt. not after.
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Jesus, never had it that bad...well, I got a colonoscopy, they basically wanted you shitting constantly.Uh huh…
Get it bad enough and you get to shove suppositories up yer ass for a week because you can’t stop shitting.
I learned a couple of very valuable lessons when I was in my early twenties. Sometimes it just isn’t worth the risk trying to “save money” by eating questionable food. But go ahead and roll the dice with your four month old yogurt.
The food poisoning is so debilitating though, on a scale of 1-10 for pain it can be an easy 10, you basically can't move and I can't even fathom how one would get to the ER. The last time I had it though I had the grand idea to just drench myself with ice-cold water from the sink whilst I was profusely sweating. That actually helped a lot.
Yogurt is just rotten milk anyway, what's it going to do, rot harder?I've got some Greek yogurt in the fridge with a "date" of 09/11/22 - at some point I'll open 'er up and give a smell and if it's not off... game on!
As to the question at hand, @JohnE is not the asshole. If she doesn't want to take expired Nyquil, that's fine, but if you're cool with it and she's not going to replace the normal cabinet staples as she throws them away, she shouldn't be throwing them away.