[escapeartist]

Dicuss.


I'll start: It discusts me that he brings in the family of a soldier killed only a month ago and uses them as a figurehead to attempt to show America that he understands their plight.

 

[Transcend]

So far, this speech is pretty pointless.

US is at war, something about terr'sts, lots of republicans towing the clapping line.

Hillary does not seem amused that dubya brought Bill into this.

Edit: Holy crap, I have never seen so much heckling at a state of the union before. It's like 2 soccer teams going at it, minus the road flares.

 

[kidwoo]

At least with his daddy you could tell what year of the presidency he was in.

This is bushspeach™ 01,02,03,04 etc.

Why does he keep talking about alternative energy though? He shut down around 90% of gubbamint funding for research in that kinda schtuff.

 

[Changleen]

Has he said you're addicted to oil yet?

 

[escapeartist]

Edit: Holy crap, I have never seen so much heckling at a state of the union before. It's like 2 soccer teams going at it, minus the road flares.

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it: the two party system is ruining America. Its time for people to start voting for themselves, not their "party"

 

[MikeD]

Human-animal hybrids! SWWEETTT! (on so many fronts...)

 

[Transcend]

He has said it.

His speech has now descended into fundamentalist religious mumbo jumbo.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Human animal hybrids? AWWWWESOME. Huligers!

Pretty good actually so far.

 

[escapeartist]

It really bothers me when he compares his war to WWII and Martin Luther King's war on segregation....

 

[Transcend]

Human animal hybrids? AWWWWESOME. Huligers!

Pretty good actually so far.

Pretty good? It was utterly useless, descended into religious drivel and inter party-heckling.

My guess, he may see a 1-5 point bounce with his base voters due to the religious nonsense and the wiretapping (pointing out it has been done before).

Hey, at least he got through the entire thing without ad libbing and throwing in some bushims. I miss him yelling out YOU FORGOT POLAND, though.

 

[MikeD]

Human animal hybrids? AWWWWESOME. Huligers!

Pretty good actually so far.

Hmmm, this speech will be either good or bad depending on what you've thought of his last 5 years of speeches (since 9/11). Nothing new, nothing inspiring to those who aren't already inspired by him.

And if he gets in the way of half-chick/half-animal girls showing up at nightclubs, he's even more in the **** with me.

MD

 

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As a side note, Cindy Sheehan was arrested and removed from the gallery just prior to the speech. Awesome.

 

[Changleen]

And if he gets in the way of half-chick/half-animal girls showing up at nightclubs, he's even more in the **** with me. MD

 

[Changleen]

As a side note, Cindy Sheehan was arrested and removed from the gallery just prior to the speech. Awesome.

For something she hadn't yet done I presume?

 

[Transcend]

For something she hadn't yet done I presume?

All i heard reported was that she "caused a disturbance".

 

[escapeartist]

As a side note, Cindy Sheehan was arrested and removed from the gallery just prior to the speech. Awesome.

Yeah, apparently she snuck in a political t-shirt. Im listening to the Democrats Response on Fox, I dont really like him either. He not even pretending to be sincere.

 

[Transcend]

This guy's reponse is clearly pandering to the religious right. Wow.

 

[jimmydean]

I liked the bit about fuels, but he says a lot of things he has no intention of following through with.

 

[Transcend]

I liked the bit about fuels, but he says a lot of things he has no intention of following through with.

The funny part is he pulled most funding for these types of things towards the beginning of his first term I believe...

 

[Ciaran]

I think my time was better spent reading this thread about the speech than actually watching the speech.

 

[sanjuro]

Every time Bush mentions our dependence on oil, I get a chill. Oil is supposed to run out in 40 years, but maybe he knows something we don't...

 

[MtnbikeMike]

I liked his anti-DNA research bit.

 

[jimmydean]

The funny part is he pulled most funding for these types of things towards the beginning of his first term I believe...

You are correct, sir. But he has also taken a lot of heat for it too. Notice he didn't mention Bio once. That's because it takes the power away from government if you make it yourself or contract with a distributer. Unlike meth (the good kind, not the bad) and hydro power.

He comes from oil and will always have his hand in it, so he wouldn't want to replace it all together.

 

[I Are Baboon]

I did not watch. The UConn/Pitt game was on.

I find the State of the Union addresses frustrating to watch. Between the applause breaks and the cameras showing who's clapping and who isn't, it's just a pathetic political puppet show. Not to mention it's the same damn speech, year after year.

I liked the bit about fuels, but he says a lot of things he has no intention of following through with.

another reason it's frustrating. All this talk about what needs fixing and none of it will get fixed.

 

[Echo]

We need a new government.

 

[Andyman_1970]

He has said it.

His speech has now descended into fundamentalist religious mumbo jumbo.

I'm glad I didn't watch it then...................:mumble:

 

[Westy]

I didn't watch, will just wait for the Daily Show recap.

 

[BurlyShirley]

That democratic response guy tried to sell me a used car during the speech Im pretty sure. Where do they find these goons? What ever happened to John Edwards or Joe Lieberman?

 

[kidwoo]

That democratic response guy tried to sell me a used car during the speech Im pretty sure. Where do they find these goons? What ever happened to John Edwards or Joe Lieberman?

Edwards got a wrinkle and can't show his face on tv anymore.

What makes you think Lieberman is a democrat?

 

[N8 v2.0]

I love it... the dimocrates are their own worst enemy...


Cracks me up that they are all running against GW, don't they know he's outta office in 2008?

 

[kidwoo]

I love it... the dimocrates are their own worst enemy...


Cracks me up that they are all running against GW, don't they know he's outta office in 2008?

I typically think of your brain as a lost reel to reel from the EIB network but you are pretty correct on your first point.

Probably more along the lines of discrediting anyone in congress who might recieve an endorsement this year though.

 

[narlus]

I liked the bit about fuels, but he says a lot of things he has no intention of following through with.

like controlling the deficit? finding osama? reforming social security? reforming medicare?

the list goes on and on...

 

[narlus]

I didn't watch, will just wait for the Daily Show recap.

good call. will watch tonight @ 8.

 

[urbaindk]

Notice he didn't mention Bio once.

I'm not sure why that is either. You can kill a lot of birds with that stone. If the gov would throw a little money towards developing cleaner burning diesel engines and get car manufactures to sell them biodiesel ready you could in principle:

1. Reduce dependence on foreign oil
2. Give a boost farmers like those in NC and VA who have effectively lost their main cash crop tobacco.

I don't see ethanol as a good alternative. You just can't get all the water out of it and you run into all kinds of materials related problems, corrosion, etc. when running it in internal combustion engines.

Hydrogen Fuel cells sound nice but you have to charge them up with something. That something is most likely going to be coal fired power plants.

And what's this 'zero emission' coal burning powerplant he was talking about?

 

[Echo]

I can't believe that he suggested coal as a good future energy alternative and managed to keep a straight face while he was saying it.

 

[Westy]

And what's this 'zero emission' coal burning powerplant he was talking about?

Something I heard on a local Pa radio while driving home from Ohio the other week was that there were some plans to build such a thing. It isn't zero emissions but zero carbon emission. Coal is processed somehow to create energy for a powerplant and produces hydrogen. The hydrogen is then also used for energy or piped to consumers. The C02 emmisions are then compressed and pumped into underground wells such as old oil wells. The compressed liquid CO2 can actually be used as a solvent to extract further oil from non productive wells, not sure if the process releases the Co2 back into the atmosphere . With the compressing of hydrogen and pumping CO2 don't sound like the whole process will have much of a net energy output but is seems like a decent direction.



Just found some kind of info:
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/fuels/hydrogen/Hydrogen_from_Coal_R&D.html


The use of agriculture for biodiesel seems like a great path to look at to me.

 

[urbaindk]

The C02 emmisions are then compressed and pumped into underground wells such as old oil wells. .

You just be damn sure that the earth doesn't burp this stuff back up somewhere.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mhalb/nyos/nyos.htm

"In 1986, a tremendous explosion of CO2 from the lake Nyos, West of Cameroon, killed more than 1700 people and livestock up to 25 km away. The dissolved CO2 is seeping from springs beneath the lake and is trapped in deep water by the high hydrostatic pressure. If the CO2 saturation level is reached, bubbles appear and draw a rich mixture of gas and water up. An avalanche process is triggered which results in an explosive over-turn of the whole lake."

 

[reflux]

I did not watch. The UConn/Pitt game was on.

A good CSI rerun was on too.

The SOTU tells me two things about our country 1) career politicians are worthless and 2) throw out the words "religion" and "god," and a politician can do no wrong.

 

[sanjuro]

Trust me, we are going nuclear...

I think people whine too much about it. We have the highest safety controls in the world, but if we improve on that (like to nuclear submarine safety), I think we can rely on it more...

 

[Westy]

Trust me, we are going nuclear...

I think people whine too much about it. We have the highest safety controls in the world, but if we improve on that (like to nuclear submarine safety), I think we can rely on it more...

I agree nukular is the way to go. The new technology has come a very long way since the last plant was built in the US. We just need to come up with a real plan on waste storage.