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The Story of Tollwut Gravity Bikes & the ultimate gearbox Racer
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If you paint it yellow I will give you one million dollars.
Unfortunately aesthetics still sell bikes. This one is about as pleasing to the eye as a genital wart.
its like the K9. it might be the bees knees on paper but they both look horrendous.
But the girls love the feeling of my genital warts.
Slow people think they need good looking bikes. Fast people make any bike look good. Fast bikes can make slow people look good.
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no skid marks, you are praying to tell facts and now spend time to troll and write off topic stuff.
this thread shall inform about the Tollwut and not to be pages of stupid posts without anything to do about mtbs.
this thread shall inform about the Tollwut and not to be pages of stupid posts without anything to do about mtbs.
oh my
More about the technics of the Tollwut Stonedigga
The concept:
real parallelogram with gearbox inside frame
-> less rear wheel weight, less inertia, reducing unsprung mass
-> centering the bike weight low and between the riders knuckles
-> very stabil during airtime
-> high manouverable
-> never changing chain length during complete travel.
-> never lose chain during race again
-> complete free of drivetrain and braking influences to rear suspension performance
-> high degree of efficiency to the rear suspension
-> centered and defined weight in the frame makes the bike more neutral to front or rear hits. the bike stays in a very smooth condition on rough tracks.
-> sealed INA diagonal double bearing for high side forces, less
-> rear chassis stays smooth during high speed cornering
-> rear suspension stays 100% active and soft during braking and accelerating
-> more grip
-> more corner speed
-> if the front fork gets hard during braking the rear stays despite braking rear, soft and stays at the ground. not squating and jumpy rearwheel.
-> braking later and harder possible
-> shorter braking distance
-> stiff frame because of 4 different spots of bearings
-> very quiet during riding
-> less routine maintenance / service necessary
-> no influence of dirt to the bike performance
-> no belt pulleys
-> wheel base gets shorter not longer during travel, for example high pivot chassis get longer
degree of efficiency
Rohloff 96-98% (highest quality hub on market yet)
usuall Chain drive 97%-99%
rear gear hubs usually 92% - 97%
dirty drivetrains, the efficiency drops
open drivetrain -> gets dirty , efficiency drops
shifting speed:
Grip shift chances 14 gears much faster than a trigger
Shifting without and with pedalling
The concept:
real parallelogram with gearbox inside frame
-> less rear wheel weight, less inertia, reducing unsprung mass
-> centering the bike weight low and between the riders knuckles
-> very stabil during airtime
-> high manouverable
-> never changing chain length during complete travel.
-> never lose chain during race again
-> complete free of drivetrain and braking influences to rear suspension performance
-> high degree of efficiency to the rear suspension
-> centered and defined weight in the frame makes the bike more neutral to front or rear hits. the bike stays in a very smooth condition on rough tracks.
-> sealed INA diagonal double bearing for high side forces, less
-> rear chassis stays smooth during high speed cornering
-> rear suspension stays 100% active and soft during braking and accelerating
-> more grip
-> more corner speed
-> if the front fork gets hard during braking the rear stays despite braking rear, soft and stays at the ground. not squating and jumpy rearwheel.
-> braking later and harder possible
-> shorter braking distance
-> stiff frame because of 4 different spots of bearings
-> very quiet during riding
-> less routine maintenance / service necessary
-> no influence of dirt to the bike performance
-> no belt pulleys
-> wheel base gets shorter not longer during travel, for example high pivot chassis get longer
degree of efficiency
Rohloff 96-98% (highest quality hub on market yet)
usuall Chain drive 97%-99%
rear gear hubs usually 92% - 97%
dirty drivetrains, the efficiency drops
open drivetrain -> gets dirty , efficiency drops
shifting speed:
Grip shift chances 14 gears much faster than a trigger
Shifting without and with pedalling
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What is German for Tony Ellsworth?
this is my least favourite thread in the history of being a member here, but i can't for the life of me stop coming back to read the insanity that continually comes up here
Visit at Tollwut Manufactory last weekend:
The first Tollwut Frame ever made with it first rear shox still works.
Josch bought it back from the customer to put it in his workshop.
Last welded Ladyshapa in 2009 for Josch himself is for sale:
The first Tollwut Frame ever made with it first rear shox still works.
Josch bought it back from the customer to put it in his workshop.
Last welded Ladyshapa in 2009 for Josch himself is for sale:
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ha ha, you are true. These doors are made by Aljoschas Company.
So you really can order indiviual metal works, like individual winter gardens, corkscrew stairs or gates...ha ha
You seem to know quite a bit about this Tollwut outfit for someone who is merely a customer.
is there something you would like to share with the group?
Was that Ladyshapa produced in the Manfactory?
Pull your head in. my last comment supported the fugly tolwitz, and was following the conversation, so was on topic. My earlier coments debated your hyped up misleading ones towards other brands that were wrong. Debate with facts, not name calling bullsh!t. You're the one trolling.
How heavy are the swingarms with all their bearings? Seeing your talking up the unsprung weight.
Is the breaking 100% neutral? How does it enable later braking?
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I only noticed it now and I find it really funny you claim Wheelbase doesnt get shorter during the travel. You do realize the rearward component on a fork is over 80mm?
Though among the BS arguments the one I like is - no belt pulleys. How many dh bikes use those?
Though among the BS arguments the one I like is - no belt pulleys. How many dh bikes use those?
I think the Evil thread tops this one in that respect. At least for me. Still, I'd give them both a try if I could...
naaaa the evil troll posts are way funnier than this. it's really sad here 
if I wanted a german made gearbox, pretty hard to say no to the guys that have been doing for as long and as good as these guys
I can imagine what you think, but Tollwut is located in Memmingen, thats in bavaria in south east germany.
I live and work in Stuttgart, that is about 140 km away. I used to ride with Ralf the Engineer of the bikes in Morzine (France) and some interested riders can try my bike when the live close to Stuttgart.
I bought a Ladyshapa (Frame from 2002) from someone from Austria, 3 weeks ago, so I was at the Tollwut to get a service and a friend bought a Stonedigga Frame kit. Funny, he is selling 2 FOES frames (Mono 2:1 and a DHS Mono and a foes fork) because he testes the Tollwut Bike.
I live and work in Stuttgart, that is about 140 km away. I used to ride with Ralf the Engineer of the bikes in Morzine (France) and some interested riders can try my bike when the live close to Stuttgart.
I bought a Ladyshapa (Frame from 2002) from someone from Austria, 3 weeks ago, so I was at the Tollwut to get a service and a friend bought a Stonedigga Frame kit. Funny, he is selling 2 FOES frames (Mono 2:1 and a DHS Mono and a foes fork) because he testes the Tollwut Bike.
You seem to know quite a bit about this Tollwut outfit for someone who is merely a customer.
is there something you would like to share with the group?
Reduce it to the frame, because fork influence is allways the same in each frame, depends on steering angle. When you have bikes with very high pivot single swinger linkage the rearinfluence to the wheelbase is rising until the swinger is horizontal and than the wheelbase starts to become shorter again. That makes a very inhomogen bike behaviour using the full travel.
What does inhomgen mean?
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unhomogeneous
non uniform
non uniform
The wheelbase will still get shorter, no matter how many brochures you read. Also I still havent seen the horrible standard dh frame with a belt that you suggest exists
If lol wut is that desperate to sell bikes they should just do an ad with david hasselhoff
Apparently they want to widen their target group and not sell them exclusively to german housefraus. Maybe do a Terry Crews ad.
Back in the days,
Ralf is racing his master thesis bike:
Ralf is racing his master thesis bike:
this is ralf's thesis racing rolf rims?
Back in the days,
Ralf is racing his master thesis bike:
I think he's talking about chaingrowth, in which case if all pivots are alligned in a common axis, it shouldnt see the chain grow (hence it doesnt have a chain retention system). On the Legend the wheel's pivot stretchs out than comes back in... I would think thats what he's saying about this bike.The wheelbase will still get shorter, no matter how many brochures you read. Also I still havent seen the horrible standard dh frame with a belt that you suggest exists
I can't decide between the Lolwut Testes and the Ladyshapa.. where do I send my money?
whats with you and FOES? did they not testes you enough?
awesome
I'm not sure about testes, but Foes usually exhibits a rather large damper unit.
