Kimbo needs to learn to sprawl from Chuck, that dude has about the best takedown defense in the game.
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Correct most of his fights don't get past his crazy standup...
but when they do:
(1) Travis Luter (Jujitsu specialist)... tapped out while taking brutal elbows to the head while simultaneously trapped in a triangle choke.
(2) Dan Henderson (Wrestler)... defeated by rear naked choke while trapped in body triangle.
Someone correct me... he's either a brown or a black belt in Jujitsu right?
Are you serious??? He has a phenomenal ground game with legs like rubber bands. The only reason you don't see his ground game much is because everyone that he fights thinks that they can go toe to toe with him striking and they are sorely mistaken.
Silva is just too damn fast and lethal. Those knees and elbows are unbelievable.
Anderson holds a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira, of all people.
<edit> His knees against Franklin hurt to even watch.
I'm watching the Lutter fight right now, and at one point he actually mounted Anderson, and Silva had one of the best escapes.
It was textbook ground defense: constant repositioning, using the arms defensively, super-tight leg triangles, elbows and punches from the bottom.
Those spider legs suckered Lutter into a triangle, and that's all she wrote.
The elbow strikes were just embarrassing. It's one thing to choke the guy out, but to give him a head ache was just too much.
For a dude who looks as scrawny as he does, he sure beats the bloody sh!t outta folks. The body triangle he had on Hendo was textbook. Somebody needs to do some baseball style stats on his hit/miss percentage. He doesn't waste much energy and makes things look effortless.
1:20 tell me that he isn't good on the ground. You show me one other fighter that has ended a fight like that on the ground.
Best knockout ever for Silva.
I believe the UFC bans kicks from the ground while in guard, only to a standing opponent.
That's why you haven't seen it.
I understand that, just pointing out that I haven't seen any other fighter in any other of MMA venues do something like that.
Just pointing out that he has an amazing ground game.
That blow was illegal and I believe he got DQ'd in that fight because of it...but it was still pretty cool.
I would so have his baby.
Silva beat Lutter with a sub. He also beat Hendo with a sub. Nobody has subbed Hendo. That says a ton right there. He typically kills everybody in the standup. Hell, why not. If you're winning by doing it, why not stick to it. GSP beats everybody on the ground these days. And he just keeps sticking to it because he knows that nobody can keep up with his pace on the ground.
I have man love for both of those guys. They're both class acts. They're the guys that you wish every fighter was like. Consistently kicking ass, always a class act, and totally respectful of whoever they're fighting.
I just like Anderson more because i was watching him fight way back in Pride when he fought Carlos Newton, Ryo Chonan, and Takase. I saw Anderson lose twice, LIVE, and used to have them on VHS. Damn, i wish i still had those tapes.
I was thinking he was still a brown or even purple belt. I know he's up there, but i don't know if it's quite a black belt yet.
It seems like you can tell the black belts from the others pretty easily when they fight. Look at Bj. His jj is crazy. Same with Demian. I think another black belt is Dustin Hazelett. Those guys are so far above everybody else with ground skills. I love watching them fight.
Based on his profile:
There have been a few other references to him having it in 2006 on other sites. Either way, there aren't many dudes he couldn't choke the sh!t out of. Watching those highlights, his accuracy is wicked. He doesn't swing wild.
After watching the replay of Evans vs. Leddell last night, they BOTH look sloppy in comparison.
Did you guys see this fight card? It's going to be awesome. Randy back at 205 against Vera. I hope he kills Vera.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.FightCard&eid=2367
There are a lot of good fights on this one.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.FightCard&eid=2367
There are a lot of good fights on this one.
I hope Swick kills Hardy, I hate that jackass. The main should be good, Vera has looked good at 205, another solid test for The Natural.
I'm going to make my 105 predictions right now:
Randy - decision
Bisping - decision
Swick - ko
Wilks - ko
Pearson - stoppage
Don't know any of these other guys.
Randy - decision
Bisping - decision
Swick - ko
Wilks - ko
Pearson - stoppage
Don't know any of these other guys.
A. Silva and Machida are both leagues ahead in their striking. Both are unbelievable at sustaining little to no damage as well. It's going to be interesting to see what LHW can throw at Machida...
The 105 card is okay in my opinon...but i'm not too pumped about the main. It's a fairly irrelevant fight at this point....If Randy beats Vera, so what? He's more experienced and has the better all around skill set. He should win. Vera gains very little from beating Randy....so what he beat a 47 yr old who is past his prime?....and don't get all uppity about Couture...I know he is a warrior and a legend...but let's face it, all he is at this point is a stepping stone. Although I do admit that Couture/Nogueira is one of my favourite fights of the year...
Kimbo doesn't need to work on his ground game as much as he needs to work on his take down defence. Whoever mentioned Chuck Lidell is bang on. How many times did we see him rolling around on the ground? Not many...because his td defence was perfect. Kimbo can force his opponents to fight on their feet if he can prevent them from taking him down.
I'm stuck in Germany for UFC 104 and not so sure i'll be able to find a bar playing it live...
The 105 card is okay in my opinon...but i'm not too pumped about the main. It's a fairly irrelevant fight at this point....If Randy beats Vera, so what? He's more experienced and has the better all around skill set. He should win. Vera gains very little from beating Randy....so what he beat a 47 yr old who is past his prime?....and don't get all uppity about Couture...I know he is a warrior and a legend...but let's face it, all he is at this point is a stepping stone. Although I do admit that Couture/Nogueira is one of my favourite fights of the year...
Kimbo doesn't need to work on his ground game as much as he needs to work on his take down defence. Whoever mentioned Chuck Lidell is bang on. How many times did we see him rolling around on the ground? Not many...because his td defence was perfect. Kimbo can force his opponents to fight on their feet if he can prevent them from taking him down.
I'm stuck in Germany for UFC 104 and not so sure i'll be able to find a bar playing it live...
Again, Chuck's sprawl is about as good as it gets. Very few people have taken him down, Randy was one of them. I doubt Kimbo can develop a defense that good quickly, but I agree that if all he did was work on a sprawl and an escape, he would improve 100%.
Chuck also has an awesome escape. The dude pops up quick when taken down.
I still question Kimbo's jaw, though. Seth caught him with a good shot, but his chin hasn't been tested by a real striker.
It has plenty of padding.
That fight was awesome.
I don't like the main card of the Randy/Vera UFC either. But there are a lot of good fighters in it. I think most of them are guys from the last few TUF series.
Its like his chin has chaff... its a total false jaw decoy
Dude probably looks even worse without the beard. Probably has a little popeye head.
do you guys think Bisping will really beat Denis Kang? Kang doesn't suck. I'm hoping Bisping isn't going to just back pedal the whole fight.
James Wilks vs Matt Brown should be a really good fight. Wilks kicked the crap out of our local boy from Utar. And Matt has been doing awesome in his last fights.
I like watching Paul Taylor fight. He doesn't win much, but he always gets fight of the night. he's probably made more from that bonus than he's made from his actual fight purse.
do you guys think Bisping will really beat Denis Kang? Kang doesn't suck. I'm hoping Bisping isn't going to just back pedal the whole fight.
James Wilks vs Matt Brown should be a really good fight. Wilks kicked the crap out of our local boy from Utar. And Matt has been doing awesome in his last fights.
I like watching Paul Taylor fight. He doesn't win much, but he always gets fight of the night. he's probably made more from that bonus than he's made from his actual fight purse.
I like Matt Brown, that dude is pure business. He has a lot of talent and works hard. Not sure he will ever be title material, but he's one of those dudes that many people don't want to fight.
I think so... Bisping is a solid fighter, the UFC just hyped him and rushed him into a fight with a veteran that was out of his league (i.e. Hendo). This guys is a better matchup for him. I think he'll win. I'm sure that Hendo fight had him looking in the mirror.
Bisping is over-rated and was 'manufactured' just so they could sell more tickets/merchandise in the UK. The guy couldn't even knock out Chris F'ing Leben even when Leben was sticking his chin out begging Bisping to hit him at the end of their fight.
I think it is less the hype behind Bisping and more that the middleweights are not that great right now.
I took a quick look at the list and no one after Silva really impresses me.
A good weight class has to have some amazing, somewhat evenly matched fighters to make me want to watch.
Maybe it just that Silva is that much better, but when I think of technique or aggression, I don't see any favorites in middleweights.
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Sad but true, before Silva came in and crushed everyone, middles were great. But it's hard for a group to be motivated to fight for 2nd place. I mean, EVERYONE in that weight class would LIKE to beat Silva, but I honestly don't see it happening.
Unless Silva gets bored like BJ did early on and stop trying.
. i thought last season the uk v. america was bad [ but i like the idea] this season is sh*t . a bunch of fat dudes fighting who have no skill.
oh and rampage sucks as a coach !
this season is less terrible than the lightweights....so there's that.
There are only a handful of heavies that can fight as it is. The face that they found 4 that don't suck is amazing to me.
Alright, what do you guys think about this fight card coming up? How do you think they'll turn out?
Lyoto Machida (No. 1 LHW, No. 4 PFP) vs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua (No. 4 LHW)-This one is tough for me. I like them both. I've watched Shogun and Ninja since their early days in PRIDE. Either way, i'm going to be happy and bummed. I'm thinking this could go either way. Shogun looked good against Liddell. But Machida is on a different level. Always a punchers chance I guess. If Shogun can do the knees, i think he can win it.
Ben Rothwell vs. Cain Velasquez-I hope Cain wins, but he's going to be a lot smaller than Ben. I haven't seen Ben fight much, but he didn't look that great against Arlovski. He just looked like a human punching bag. I'm thinking Cain with the decision.
Josh Neer vs. Gleison Tibau-I hope Tibau wins this one. They're both good, but i think Tibau is going to be way stronger and his subs will be way better. I think he'll sub Neer before the fight is over.
Spencer Fisher vs. Joe Stevenson-This fight is going to be good. Spencer has been awesome in all of his fights. It'll be a really hard fight for Joe. But, Joe is really strong for his size. If it goes to the ground, i think joe will win it.
Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida-Oh man. this is going to be a good one here. If johnson doesn't knock out Yoshida in round 1, i think Yoshida is going to show him some Judo lessons and probably sub him. Anthony is so damn fast though.
Yushin Okami (No. 3 MW) vs. Chael Sonnen (No. 9 MW)-Don't know about these two. I'm thinking that okami is going to win this one. I hope he does. All that Chael can do is ground and pound. he needs to get more skills. Him and Guida.
I could care less about the undercard guys.
Ryan Bader vs. Eric Schafer
Chase Gormley vs. Stefan Struve
Patrick Barry vs. Antoni Hardonk
Jorge Rivera vs. Rob Kimmons
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Razak Al-Hassan
Lyoto Machida (No. 1 LHW, No. 4 PFP) vs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua (No. 4 LHW)-This one is tough for me. I like them both. I've watched Shogun and Ninja since their early days in PRIDE. Either way, i'm going to be happy and bummed. I'm thinking this could go either way. Shogun looked good against Liddell. But Machida is on a different level. Always a punchers chance I guess. If Shogun can do the knees, i think he can win it.
Ben Rothwell vs. Cain Velasquez-I hope Cain wins, but he's going to be a lot smaller than Ben. I haven't seen Ben fight much, but he didn't look that great against Arlovski. He just looked like a human punching bag. I'm thinking Cain with the decision.
Josh Neer vs. Gleison Tibau-I hope Tibau wins this one. They're both good, but i think Tibau is going to be way stronger and his subs will be way better. I think he'll sub Neer before the fight is over.
Spencer Fisher vs. Joe Stevenson-This fight is going to be good. Spencer has been awesome in all of his fights. It'll be a really hard fight for Joe. But, Joe is really strong for his size. If it goes to the ground, i think joe will win it.
Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida-Oh man. this is going to be a good one here. If johnson doesn't knock out Yoshida in round 1, i think Yoshida is going to show him some Judo lessons and probably sub him. Anthony is so damn fast though.
Yushin Okami (No. 3 MW) vs. Chael Sonnen (No. 9 MW)-Don't know about these two. I'm thinking that okami is going to win this one. I hope he does. All that Chael can do is ground and pound. he needs to get more skills. Him and Guida.
I could care less about the undercard guys.
Ryan Bader vs. Eric Schafer
Chase Gormley vs. Stefan Struve
Patrick Barry vs. Antoni Hardonk
Jorge Rivera vs. Rob Kimmons
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Razak Al-Hassan
Machida
Cain
Don't Care
Spencer Fisher
Anthony Johnson
I think it's cool Spike is showing the prelims. I hope Cain lives up to the hype, he sure hasn't so far. Maybe I just haven't paid attention.
Cain
Don't Care
Spencer Fisher
Anthony Johnson
I think it's cool Spike is showing the prelims. I hope Cain lives up to the hype, he sure hasn't so far. Maybe I just haven't paid attention.