How come they ain't doing anything to stop this crap?
The UN and Sudan...
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The correct answer is...
The US hasn't done anything it can be blamed for in the Sudan, ergo the UN has no interest in it.
The US hasn't done anything it can be blamed for in the Sudan, ergo the UN has no interest in it.
If the UN security council had the will, the UN would go in there. It would appear that the security council doesn't. This is despite the US referring to the situation as genocide which should compel the UN to act.
In this situation, as far as I can see, the US is doing the right thing, the rest of the world should get behind them. Perhaps the loss of goodwill has blinded people to the fact that the US does do the right thing sometimes as well as the wrong thing other times.
In this situation, as far as I can see, the US is doing the right thing, the rest of the world should get behind them. Perhaps the loss of goodwill has blinded people to the fact that the US does do the right thing sometimes as well as the wrong thing other times.
So in other words, the UN/EU is waiting for the US to take charge and provide the leadership on the issue.fluff said:
Someday perhaps the UN/EU will actually accomplish something positive on their own...
..someday...
*sigh*
I think, though I have not checked, that the UK is the biggest donor to the Sudan. With the same proviso (not checking my facts) I think that the UK kept troops in Rwanda to keep the peace for quite some time after everyone else went home.N8 said:
Oh and it would appear that the UN successfully disarmed Iraq...
... then worked out deals with Saddam to rearm him using the Oil for Food programme...fluff said:
Why I stand corrected!!!fluff said:
Oh thank god the UN formed a 5 member panel to figure out if genocide has taken or not!
The people of the Sudan will be happy to know the results of the commision will be available in 3 months hence.
Viva la UN!
Oh by the way... The United States has already declared the attacks in Darfur to be genocide... but hey... maybe the UN commision can figure it all out in 90 days.
Your blessed GW has lost credibility with the world. Basically I'm sure the UN is over there going, "The US is saying its Genocide in Sudan, YEAH RIGHT, just like WMD in Iraq huh, we'll make up our own minds".N8 said:
So, I missed things here. If it's genocide, how come we aren't sending peacekeepers?
Now all of a sudden we need to wait for the rest of the world to do the right thing?
And now the UN is relevant again? It's hard being a Bush supporter, you always need to keep right on top of things to know which way to think...
Now all of a sudden we need to wait for the rest of the world to do the right thing?
And now the UN is relevant again? It's hard being a Bush supporter, you always need to keep right on top of things to know which way to think...
No, I'm sure the genocide in Sudan isn't in question. Nor did most other countries, I think, ever believe the US case for WMDs...hence the fact that the UN didn't resolve to support the US war.golgiaparatus said:
Credibility, however, was lost a long time ago.
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The main reason the Un is not doing anything, is because it's the Arabs causing the problems. And they can't single out Arabs in this day and age.
Now it's got me thinking...is there anywhere in this world where Arabs live, that they are not causing a problem?
Food for thought...
Now it's got me thinking...is there anywhere in this world where Arabs live, that they are not causing a problem?
Food for thought...
ohio said:
Thinking anything other than that is being racist.
ohio said:
Then sign me up.N8 said:
Thinking anything other than that is being racist.
Great i'm an Arab racist, and Changleen is an Anti-Semite.
Do I have to don the tinfoil hat?
Jesus said:
Jesus...
You misunderstood what I was saying. One can seperate the actions of a few extreme religious zelots from the rest of the ethnic population.
Not all Germans in WW2 were Nazis for example.
We obviously need to be paying close attention to white ex-military guys...cavity searches all around, I guess.MikeD said:
Actually I heard that if you are white and bald then you are totally racistN8 said:
Thinking anything other than that is being racist.
Seriously, radical fundementalist anything is going to cause problems. It just seems that there is an overabundance of radical Muslims running around these days, russia has problems, USA, Spain, all over the middle east... Why doesnt Asia have any fundementalist Muslim radicals?
Haha Yah, well at least they haven't spread to Antarctica yet......MikeD said:
golgiaparatus said:
The bombing in the PI today was carried out by ______________ ______ ________.
yah i'd like to see you really whimper and hide if radical Mormons were spread across the globe....N8 said:
Well at least it keeps the Jehovah Witness population down there. Last thing you need is them bastards knocking on your hut door all day long.MikeD said:
Maybe asia was too broad...MikeD said:
More like, Korea, Japan, China... dont hear about much Radical Muslim activity there. Just curious... it seems that it is going on everywhere but there, or am I just missing something?
Still beats a mail package from Kazinkski.MikeD said:
Ah, so. You mean the far east. Well, there aren't many, if any, Muslims there? Could that be it? And far-eastern societies aren't quick to allow anyone to emigrate in, either...golgiaparatus said:
Or could it be that there is an indigenous Muslim population that's been in a long-standing fight with China (towards central asia, mind you, where most of the rest of Asia's Muslims are)? And the US has ignored the massive human-rights violations the Chinese are perpetrating there? Yep. All part of the war on terror...which is fine, but when there are lots of angry, potentially violent Muslims that think the US is hypocritical, well, at least now we know one more reason why.
golgiaparatus said:
Well, we all know how China would deal with radical muslims...
Gotcha! :love:N8 said:
The natives of the Sudan should rest assured that the UN blue-ribbon panel will render a decision, whether or not genocide has occured, in 85 more days....
From today's news:
U.N. Team in Sudan to Investigate Genocide Reports
Mon Nov 8,11:49 AM ET World - Reuters
EL FASHER, Sudan (Reuters) - A U.N. team has arrived in Sudan to investigate whether genocide has occurred in the country's Darfur region where more than 1.5 million people have been made homeless by conflict, a U.N. spokesman said on Monday.
Thank god the UN has finally arrived to investigate...!!!!!!!
U.N. Team in Sudan to Investigate Genocide Reports
Mon Nov 8,11:49 AM ET World - Reuters
EL FASHER, Sudan (Reuters) - A U.N. team has arrived in Sudan to investigate whether genocide has occurred in the country's Darfur region where more than 1.5 million people have been made homeless by conflict, a U.N. spokesman said on Monday.
Thank god the UN has finally arrived to investigate...!!!!!!!
ohio said:
A day late and a dollar short.....
It never fails that this stuff always goes on too long before anyone gets around to doing anything about it. A blue ribbon panel?
I think that you could send 7 or 8 folks to go look at the first report... ah there seems to be a lot of folks killing each other... stop it and then figure out what the hell is going on. Who is doing the killing is completely and totally irrelevant. That discussion is a waste of time and should be saved until after you stopped it. Didn't the world learn a lesson from Rwanda? They all said they did. All countries said after the fact that we won't let this happen again. Its only been 10 years. Then guess what? Everyone freezes up for whatever reason.
Or is the UN only doing what it said it would do....
From the 2000 Brahimi Report
It never fails that this stuff always goes on too long before anyone gets around to doing anything about it. A blue ribbon panel?
I think that you could send 7 or 8 folks to go look at the first report... ah there seems to be a lot of folks killing each other... stop it and then figure out what the hell is going on. Who is doing the killing is completely and totally irrelevant. That discussion is a waste of time and should be saved until after you stopped it. Didn't the world learn a lesson from Rwanda? They all said they did. All countries said after the fact that we won't let this happen again. Its only been 10 years. Then guess what? Everyone freezes up for whatever reason.
Or is the UN only doing what it said it would do....
From the 2000 Brahimi Report
The reality is that these tribes have been slaughtering and enslaving each other for 100's of years, its just now with modern weapons they have gotten a lot more effective at it. Its their "culture", so should the world just take a gigantic butt-out pill and if folks want to massacre each other, let'em? If they can't protect themselves... too f'ing bad.
Like say... radical fundementalist evangelical christianity.... for example.golgiaparatus said:
Im sorry this post is meaningless, please dont respond.