Chapter 6
* They cut Miquelena's comments in a way that he doesn't specify what he means.
* "Can't do what Castro did". What did Castro do that Chavez also did?
* Third time that Michelena fails to specify what reforms and changes Chavez didn't do "at that time". More bashing?
Then the voice continues: "In his first few hears, Chavez hardly mentioned "the Empire", as he now calles the US. But as his friendship with Castro grew, his rethoric became more and more incindiery." Is he ****in joking? He didn't have any problems with the USA until they organized a coup against him on the 11 of April, 2002. And later that year the 3 month lock out strike. Like he needs Castro to know what to think of the USA or anything for that matter....
* And then chavez tells it him self: USA's psychological and economical wars and sabotages against VE.
* A.Berrera: "Chavez is in the need of an epic. He didn't topple a dictator, hasn't been invaded by anybody. He's yelling at Bush to see if the gets a responce. He needs great enemies, because you can't mantain such a high verbal temperature and keep saying, "I'm a great revolutionary", if you're not dangerous." So the coup and the strike against him wasn't Homeric at all? How bout if we ad the coup Chavez did in 92 and the years he sat in prison, to that merit? Drivel, opposition hate that punctures as soon it's revised. lthumbsdown:
* Phil Gunson, The Economist: "And he's absolutely convinced that GWB goes to bed every night thinking of ways to assasinate Hugo Chavez." It's been proven by documents released under FOIA. Why do they not adress that here?
Then we have Humberto Bertini, Minister of Energy, during the period where the poverty constantly grew, 1989-93, spill hate over that Chavez isn't the same thief like he was when he sat in the gvmnt.
* "And then we have the agreements... Cuba today is by and large subsidized by VE." Another complete lie that the producer happily transfers to the viewer. They have a trade exchange of products for services. Nothing wrong with that, is it?
And it continues with a true shocker:
* J.L. Anderson: "Chavez has essentially saved Fidels revolution, on the very eve of his death. I mean, Fidel can go more or less peacefully inte the night knowing that, at least for some years more, AS LONG AS CHAVEZ IS STILL ALIVE, Cuba will be allright."
WTF, did he just say? Chavez isn't going to die of old age in a few years, he's like 50 or so!! Fact is, that the opposition continiously talk openly on the air about assasinating Chavez (where else would that be allowed?). Maybe Anderson is pretty acustumed to those threats that he didn't think of what he said? See for your self, 6:30min into Chapter 6.
Chapter 7
* "He silences a TV station." RCTV, see why in that documentary:
* "The names leak to the opposition." I have already adressed that in this thread.
Why don't they deepen the part where M.L. Maya talks about VE being a "participatory democracy", and that people in general agree with Chavez's politics?
Further, "The money from PDVSA muct be distributed for social policies, that the missions are doing their job, people voted, I think, for that." Here's a blunder from the producer, as she provides a succesfull view of the missions she proves this documentary to be BS!
Rory's (the guy from the Guardian) question was good, and Chavez's answer was again one of a person that has been attacked too much. But then Rory says that "it didn't matter what a guy like he says". Writing for a major western rightist paper it damn well matters what you say as many read it. Although, Chavez failed to adress it propperly.
Later Chavez admits that "It's a political conseption". I don't agree with Chavez on this, but haven't our leaders strange political consepts some times?
Chapter 8
* "Ten years on, serious social ills remain." No ****, WTF did they expect after ten years?
* "Kidnappings and murder [unlike in Brazil or the US...], unequal distribution of oil wealth [unequal to whom, and is it worse than during the 80-90s?], food shortages [thank God for the land reforms then] - yet the poor still belive things would be worse without Chavez." Like if history hasn't proven otherwise. Only a ****ing ignorant person would buy for this crap.
* Then they mention the government food stores, Mercal, taht sells price controlled goods, without reflecting on that it would be worse if they had to buy the same stuff on the open market..
* They make it sound like the problem of safety wasn't a problem before Chavez (one 1/4 had a gun in 2002)...
* They mention the bars covered doors. They're all over every US ghetto movie that I've seen, FFS.
The veterinarian:
* They admit that most of the kidnappings are in border towns to Colombia without reflecting on the paramilitaries there and the documented connections they've had with opposition governor Mario Rosales of Zulia state (bordering with Colombia).
* The poor guy didn't get a call from any official responsible for these things, but is it the government of the country or the state (Rosales) who are to blame here?
* "Venezuela has been transformed". Again, is it the paramilitaries that are effing up things of are these typical signs in a country which steadily has decreesed its poverty for 10 years now?
* Again, somebody comes out and says something that I only can read is directed to the US American watching; don't pump gvmnt money into social programs.
How could VE be better of w/o Chavez if the "social question" hadn't become the "most important issue of the country", something that totally had "disapeared from the political radar" during the previous 20 years before Chavez, where the "terrible impoverishment" had reached 60%?
* "Then surpirse, Chavez lost. The margain was small, officially less than 2%." Here is another try to discredit the VE government by putting emphasis on a system that has been validated by international observers MANY times.
* "He was not about to give up". Why should he, his party got a landslide victory, again, in this last regional election. He's been validated more times than any other politician. At least they get to vote about it.
Over here, our gvmnt pushes for an EU constitution and they don't want to hear of anything that has to do with a referendum (because they're afraid we'll follow Irelands example). Their stance is, "we've been democraticly elected, so we're legit to deal with this matter by our selves".
In 1995 when Sweden was going to vote in a referendum about joining the EC, we were told that if the "yes" vote wins, then that's the end of that matter, but if the "no" vote won, then there would be a second referendum!
Last year the Venezuelans voted for some 60, or so, reforms at the same time, not just about indefinate reelection of the president. Therefore it's OK to ask them again. Any law can still be passed through the parliamentary system, one by one.
* "In the local and regional elections held on Nov 23, 2008, Chavez barred hundreds of opposition candidates from running." Really? This documentary is full of continuous lies.
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3988
It has taken me half of a ****ing day to go though all those claims in the documentary you thought were the shiz. Please now view a completely neutral stance about what happened during the coup in 2002. You will come out of that hour and fifteen minutes more enlightened of the Venezuelan situation.
* They cut Miquelena's comments in a way that he doesn't specify what he means.
* "Can't do what Castro did". What did Castro do that Chavez also did?
* Third time that Michelena fails to specify what reforms and changes Chavez didn't do "at that time". More bashing?
Then the voice continues: "In his first few hears, Chavez hardly mentioned "the Empire", as he now calles the US. But as his friendship with Castro grew, his rethoric became more and more incindiery." Is he ****in joking? He didn't have any problems with the USA until they organized a coup against him on the 11 of April, 2002. And later that year the 3 month lock out strike. Like he needs Castro to know what to think of the USA or anything for that matter....
* And then chavez tells it him self: USA's psychological and economical wars and sabotages against VE.
* A.Berrera: "Chavez is in the need of an epic. He didn't topple a dictator, hasn't been invaded by anybody. He's yelling at Bush to see if the gets a responce. He needs great enemies, because you can't mantain such a high verbal temperature and keep saying, "I'm a great revolutionary", if you're not dangerous." So the coup and the strike against him wasn't Homeric at all? How bout if we ad the coup Chavez did in 92 and the years he sat in prison, to that merit? Drivel, opposition hate that punctures as soon it's revised. lthumbsdown:
* Phil Gunson, The Economist: "And he's absolutely convinced that GWB goes to bed every night thinking of ways to assasinate Hugo Chavez." It's been proven by documents released under FOIA. Why do they not adress that here?
Then we have Humberto Bertini, Minister of Energy, during the period where the poverty constantly grew, 1989-93, spill hate over that Chavez isn't the same thief like he was when he sat in the gvmnt.
* "And then we have the agreements... Cuba today is by and large subsidized by VE." Another complete lie that the producer happily transfers to the viewer. They have a trade exchange of products for services. Nothing wrong with that, is it?
And it continues with a true shocker:
* J.L. Anderson: "Chavez has essentially saved Fidels revolution, on the very eve of his death. I mean, Fidel can go more or less peacefully inte the night knowing that, at least for some years more, AS LONG AS CHAVEZ IS STILL ALIVE, Cuba will be allright."
WTF, did he just say? Chavez isn't going to die of old age in a few years, he's like 50 or so!! Fact is, that the opposition continiously talk openly on the air about assasinating Chavez (where else would that be allowed?). Maybe Anderson is pretty acustumed to those threats that he didn't think of what he said? See for your self, 6:30min into Chapter 6.
Chapter 7
* "He silences a TV station." RCTV, see why in that documentary:
* "The names leak to the opposition." I have already adressed that in this thread.
Why don't they deepen the part where M.L. Maya talks about VE being a "participatory democracy", and that people in general agree with Chavez's politics?
Further, "The money from PDVSA muct be distributed for social policies, that the missions are doing their job, people voted, I think, for that." Here's a blunder from the producer, as she provides a succesfull view of the missions she proves this documentary to be BS!
Rory's (the guy from the Guardian) question was good, and Chavez's answer was again one of a person that has been attacked too much. But then Rory says that "it didn't matter what a guy like he says". Writing for a major western rightist paper it damn well matters what you say as many read it. Although, Chavez failed to adress it propperly.
Later Chavez admits that "It's a political conseption". I don't agree with Chavez on this, but haven't our leaders strange political consepts some times?
Chapter 8
* "Ten years on, serious social ills remain." No ****, WTF did they expect after ten years?
* "Kidnappings and murder [unlike in Brazil or the US...], unequal distribution of oil wealth [unequal to whom, and is it worse than during the 80-90s?], food shortages [thank God for the land reforms then] - yet the poor still belive things would be worse without Chavez." Like if history hasn't proven otherwise. Only a ****ing ignorant person would buy for this crap.
* Then they mention the government food stores, Mercal, taht sells price controlled goods, without reflecting on that it would be worse if they had to buy the same stuff on the open market..
* They make it sound like the problem of safety wasn't a problem before Chavez (one 1/4 had a gun in 2002)...
* They mention the bars covered doors. They're all over every US ghetto movie that I've seen, FFS.
The veterinarian:
* They admit that most of the kidnappings are in border towns to Colombia without reflecting on the paramilitaries there and the documented connections they've had with opposition governor Mario Rosales of Zulia state (bordering with Colombia).
* The poor guy didn't get a call from any official responsible for these things, but is it the government of the country or the state (Rosales) who are to blame here?
* "Venezuela has been transformed". Again, is it the paramilitaries that are effing up things of are these typical signs in a country which steadily has decreesed its poverty for 10 years now?
* Again, somebody comes out and says something that I only can read is directed to the US American watching; don't pump gvmnt money into social programs.
How could VE be better of w/o Chavez if the "social question" hadn't become the "most important issue of the country", something that totally had "disapeared from the political radar" during the previous 20 years before Chavez, where the "terrible impoverishment" had reached 60%?
* "Then surpirse, Chavez lost. The margain was small, officially less than 2%." Here is another try to discredit the VE government by putting emphasis on a system that has been validated by international observers MANY times.
* "He was not about to give up". Why should he, his party got a landslide victory, again, in this last regional election. He's been validated more times than any other politician. At least they get to vote about it.
Over here, our gvmnt pushes for an EU constitution and they don't want to hear of anything that has to do with a referendum (because they're afraid we'll follow Irelands example). Their stance is, "we've been democraticly elected, so we're legit to deal with this matter by our selves".
In 1995 when Sweden was going to vote in a referendum about joining the EC, we were told that if the "yes" vote wins, then that's the end of that matter, but if the "no" vote won, then there would be a second referendum!
Last year the Venezuelans voted for some 60, or so, reforms at the same time, not just about indefinate reelection of the president. Therefore it's OK to ask them again. Any law can still be passed through the parliamentary system, one by one.
* "In the local and regional elections held on Nov 23, 2008, Chavez barred hundreds of opposition candidates from running." Really? This documentary is full of continuous lies.
and to make it final:In both the former list, which contained nearly 400 names, and the revised list of 272 names, more than 52% of those disqualified did not sign the 2004 petition for a recall referendum against President Hugo Chávez, while less than 48% did sign the referendum, according to the Venezuelan newspaper Últimas Noticias.
And at last, the final thing they mention is that the opposition won 5 governorships, out of 23, which equals 77%, but there were also mayoral elections and in those the PSUV gained 81% of the votes.Venezuela's Supreme Court issued a series of decisions yesterday and today that validated the Comptroller General's ruling to temporarily disqualify nearly 300 opposition and pro-Chavez Venezuelans accused of corruption from holding public office.
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3988
It has taken me half of a ****ing day to go though all those claims in the documentary you thought were the shiz. Please now view a completely neutral stance about what happened during the coup in 2002. You will come out of that hour and fifteen minutes more enlightened of the Venezuelan situation.