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The war on Xtians

LordOpie

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Newton's Second Law?

For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction?

Cause and effect?

If Xtians didn't push their beliefs so damned hard, no one would push back.
 
Ciaran

Ciaran

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Apr 5, 2004
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Old Man G Funk said:
I feel like maniacal laughter is somehow called for here.
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Heh heh. or should I say... Muahahahaha....

Actually I don't feel like there's a war so much as there are more and more people not only turning away from Christianity, but turning against it.
 
ohio

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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"Certainly religious persecution existed in our history, but to claim that these examples amount to religious persecution disrespects the experiences of people who have been jailed and died because of their faith," said K. Hollyn Hollman, general counsel of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

"This is a skirmish over religious pluralism, and the inclination to see it as a war against Christianity strikes me as a spoiled-brat response by Christians who have always enjoyed the privileges of a majority position," said the Rev. Robert M. Franklin, a minister in the Church of God in Christ and professor of social ethics at Emory University.

White evangelicals make up about one-quarter of the U.S. population, and 85 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. But three-quarters of evangelicals believe they are a minority under siege and nearly half believe they are looked down upon by most of their fellow citizens, according to a 2004 poll.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Though, it's nice to see politicians playing these evangelicals like a fiddle (hi, Tom Delay, how's it going, you good little Christian, you).
 
Silver

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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Another Jewish speaker, Michael Horowitz, told the conference that the "Christian decency of this country" saved him from becoming "a bar of soap" in Nazi Germany.

"You guys have become the Jews of the 21st century," said Horowitz, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington, just before a false alarm interrupted his speech. Several attendees called the fire alarm suspicious, though a hotel spokesman said it resulted from a mechanical problem in a distant location.

If God did exist, I'd say he pulled that fire alarm. Besides the bad history lesson, that is hyperbole of a degree not seen outside of people with serious mental disease.
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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It seems to me that Christians have just become more political in the past years. Instead of getting doors slammed in their faces with their door to door marketing they switched to large scale politics and business. The reaction to being force fed ideas itself has been escalated.
 
ohio

ohio

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Silver said:
Another Jewish speaker, Michael Horowitz, blah blah

If God did exist, I'd say he pulled that fire alarm. Besides the bad history lesson, that is hyperbole of a degree not seen outside of people with serious mental disease.
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If you haven't run across Horowitz before, he's an outspoken ultra, ultra-conservative and hardly speaks for Jews. In fact, I would have to double check, but I'm pretty sure he was american-born, so the only folks that would have made him into soap are the same KKK members he caters to now.
 
Silver

Silver

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ohio said:
If you haven't run across Horowitz before, he's an outspoken ultra, ultra-conservative and hardly speaks for Jews. In fact, I would have to double check, but I'm pretty sure he was american-born, so the only folks that would have made him into soap are the same KKK members he caters to now.
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What is it with asshat Jews named Horowitz?
 
ohio

ohio

The Fresno Kid
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whether or not it was intentional, the irony of a "false alarm" is pretty funny at a conference of definitive chicken-littles.
 
Tenchiro

Tenchiro

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Jul 19, 2002
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"We are after all a society that abides abortion on demand, that has killed millions of innocent children, that degrades the institution of marriage and often treats Christianity like some second-rate superstition. Seen from this perspective, of course there is a war on Christianity," he said
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At least he is correct about the "second rate suprtstition" part.
 
Ciaran

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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Tenchiro said:
At least he is correct about the "second rate suprtstition" part.
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I'd say that was a hand grenade lobbed in a war-like fashion. Don't wage your athiest anti-jihad at me! :rofl:

May I now pick an important part of your life and deem it a "second rate superstition"?
 
Tenchiro

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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Ciaran said:
I'd say that was a hand grenade lobbed in a war-like fashion. Don't wage your athiest anti-jihad at me! :rofl:

May I now pick an important part of your life and deem it a "second rate superstition"?
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Sir, I invite you to take your best shot. :weee:
 
kinghami3

kinghami3

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Ballard 4 life.
Old Man G Funk said:
Any of the Xtian posters feel like there is a war going on against them?
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No. As far as I'm concerned, the Christian Right are a bunch of paranoid idiots funning around crying, "Persecution, persecution!" The truth is that we've never had it so good, especially here in America. I apologize if any of you feel like I'm cramming my faith down your throats, but much of the way I go about my life is determined by my faith; I have very Christocentric political views, in that I try to align how I feel about politics with how Christ would have view politics (if he had ever cared about politics). I feel that most of my time is spent trying to undo misconceptions people have about the faith, and apologizing for the few and the loud who tend to give Christians a bad name, but my faith is central and important to me.
 
Old Man G Funk

Old Man G Funk

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Nov 21, 2005
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ohio said:
Couldn't have said it better myself. Though, it's nice to see politicians playing these evangelicals like a fiddle (hi, Tom Delay, how's it going, you good little Christian, you).
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When I saw Tom Delay's name, the first thought that popped into my head was, "Hey, shouldn't you be at your trial right now?"
 
MudGrrl

MudGrrl

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Mar 4, 2004
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2 - War on them my ass, more like the rest of us are tired of having their nonsense crammed down our throats on a daily basis.
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Kinda funny you would say that.


OMGF and I returned home yesterday and found a little bag on our door "a gift for you".

It contained a bunch of Christian lit and directions to the local church.


We also received some mail that included a "prayer rug" with Jesus' face on it (Jesus was crying, btw). The instructions were to kneel on the prayer rug, pray, then send it back to the church with a form with little boxes checked off for what we would like them to pray for.

The boxes available were something like:
-disease
-relative
-financial (please specify amount)


I am praying for the rapture, because I want to be left the hell alone.

:D
 
Old Man G Funk

Old Man G Funk

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Nov 21, 2005
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Yet, it's not so much the literature left on the door or the junk mail. I believe that Xtians think a war is being waged on them simply because I choose not to believe in the Bible.

In reality, there are certain factions of Xtians that are certainly waging war on me and my right to disbelieve. Those factions that push for the 10 commandments in schools, denial of evolution, abolition of abortion (because of their religious sensibilities), etc. If there is a war, I would say that it is of their own making, as they are the aggressors.
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Well thanks to the FSM at least I can say I am no longer a godless heathen. Ciaran should feel as though he can make fun of the FSM. There will still be a place for him at the base of the beer volcano.
 
Old Man G Funk

Old Man G Funk

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Nov 21, 2005
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Westy said:
Well thanks to the FSM at least I can say I am no longer a godless heathen. Ciaran should feel as though he can make fun of the FSM. There will still be a place for him at the base of the beer volcano.
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As long as he wears pirate regalia.
 
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