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The Worst Day in Republican Politics?

sanjuro

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1. Running on a campaign of Joe-The-Plumber, working class support, after earlier revelations about $150,000 spent on clothing, reveals that $30,000 was spent on a hairstylist and makeup artist for Sarah Palin for two weeks work, more than the highest paid policy adviser to the campaign.

2. Palin, in her first policy speech, mentions increasing the budget for Special Needs education, deviating from her running mate's budget freeze, except as one way to pay for this is she bashes fruit fly research, which is used for autism research, which her son suffers from.

3. Joe McCain, John's brother who is campaigning for him, calls 911 to complain about Virgina traffic (which he has already referred to as Communist country), then when the operator asks him if he called 911 for traffic issues, tells the "F**k you" and hangs up.

When they call back informing him using 911 for traffic is a crime, he calls the Alexandria police to lodge a complaint. He has since retired from the campaign.

4. The night before, SNL in a primetime special, ridicules the endorsement of a standing President, using Will Ferrell and Tina Fey, both known for their impersonations of Bush and Palin. Vid Link

In reality, Palin admits that the leader of her party is the number 1 problem to the ticket. News Link

5. The worst event of a very long 24 hours for the Republicans: the revelation that the attack on one of their campaign workers is a total lie made much worse considering the race game she played.

But allowing the mental state of Ashley Todd, the Pennsylvania communications director gave "an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established -- and even told reporters outright that the "B" carved into the victim's cheek stood for "Barack," according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions." Story Link
 

jimmydean

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I'm getting sh!tty regardless. Drinking to celebrate/drown sorrows. Either way I'll bust out the "Mission Accomplished" banner then just change the reason to fit my needs.
 

FlyinPolack

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There is No Way that I'm voting for either of those dicks.
Both McCain & Obama SUCK, & both are owned by big business.
Anyone that thinks Obama is going to fix everything is down right delusional.
Not to mention, our votes don't matter due to the electoral college having 100% power of the vote.

I Fear for our country.
I hope global warming hurries up so I can move to Canada. I hate the cold..
 

Silver

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You can't blame the McCain ticket for the stupid chick in Pittsburgh.
No, but you can blame the fact that the McCain campaign, starting with the Pennsylvania communications director, was pitching the story to the local news media. This is troubling, because anyone with a brain should have been able to see that there was a large problem with the story in the first place, and more importantly it shows that the campaign is either being run without adult supervision or that the McCain and his advisors really have no problem race-baiting.

Mr. Garcia took the widely published picture of Ms. Todd with her injuries. He said he took several photographs with a digital camera to document what had happened. He said he only gave copies of the photos to police and Ms. Todd's employer, the College Republicans. One photo appeared on The Drudge Report on Thursday, setting off a storm of media attention.

That means that the College Republicans sent the story to Drudge...

source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08299/922849-53.stm
 

jimmydean

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Nobody is going to fix everything. You can't fix real life, it's just there.

Obama and crew will do considerably less damage and more good, for a while, then the remnants of Reagan and Gingrich's neo-bolshevik conservatives.

That is all.
:stupid:

It will take a whole lot more than 4 years to fix at lest the last 8. Clinton was not perfect, but he had this country running rather well when GWB and crew took over.

But getting the stains of the Constitution from them whipping their asses with it will take a lot more than 4 years, Oxy clean and a Shamwow. But at least Obama is a start in that direction.
 

Defenestrated

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Obama will probably never make much in the way of real progress due to the fact that he will be doing damage control for at least an entire first term, and probably most of a second as well, if that becomes the case.
 

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I see what you did there.




2. Palin, in her first policy speech, mentions increasing the budget for Special Needs education, deviating from her running mate's budget freeze, except as one way to pay for this is she bashes fruit fly research, which is used for autism research, which her son suffers from.

I thought the down's kid was it. Is there another one with autism or was that a mess up?
 

sanjuro

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Obama will probably never make much in the way of real progress due to the fact that he will be doing damage control for at least an entire first term, and probably most of a second as well, if that becomes the case.
Very possible.
 

jimmydean

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Yes, the two party system is teh suck. But America (as in the majority of jackasses in it) can't handle more than 2 choices.

Why is it Pepsi vs. Coke with no RC? Because when the mass of America is given too many choices and forced to think, they get confused.

Also, the sole reason GWB made it into office the first time was the 150k votes Nader got in Florida (Gore lost Florida by less than 600 votes).

So vote for whoever you want to, but know a 3rd party won't win until America can choose more than A or B. With a 2 party system, a vote for C = more of the same.
 

BurlyShirley

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Yes, the two party system is teh suck. But America (as in the majority of jackasses in it) can't handle more than 2 choices.

Why is it Pepsi vs. Coke with no RC? Because when the mass of America is given too many choices and forced to think, they get confused.

Also, the sole reason GWB made it into office the first time was the 150k votes Nader got in Florida (Gore lost Florida by less than 600 votes).

So vote for whoever you want to, but know a 3rd party won't win until America can choose more than A or B. With a 2 party system, a vote for C = more of the same.


Yeah well, I know the 2-party deal gets a bad rap, but frankly the idea of someone winning the presidency with like 26% of the popular vote if we had 4 or 5 parties is nothing short of frightening. You could probably find 26% of the population that believes in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Having only two parties sort of moderates the extremism.
 

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thought the down's kid was it. Is there another one with autism or was that a mess up?
you're correct. the kid has Downs, not autism. they are not the same, sanjuro.
 

jimmydean

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Yeah well, I know the 2-party deal gets a bad rap, but frankly the idea of someone winning the presidency with like 26% of the popular vote if we had 4 or 5 parties is nothing short of frightening. You could probably find 26% of the population that believes in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Having only two parties sort of moderates the extremism.
I agree there, but often a third choice might not be so bad. I personally like Obama and have no issues voting for him, but I was less excited about Kerry. Kerry was still FAR better than the alternative, though.
 

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Yeah well, I know the 2-party deal gets a bad rap, but frankly the idea of someone winning the presidency with like 26% of the popular vote if we had 4 or 5 parties is nothing short of frightening. You could probably find 26% of the population that believes in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Having only two parties sort of moderates the extremism.
It woudn't be the same type of system, though. I agree that an all power president based off of 26% of the vote would be begging for trouble.

In Parliamentary systems, the Premiere has much less power than the President. Most of the power rests in the 2 upper houses where deals must be brokered between parties in order for anything to get done. It can be a pain when a deal can't be reached, but it ensures that insanity like presidential signings never happens.
 

BurlyShirley

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It woudn't be the same type of system, though. I agree that an all power president based off of 26% of the vote would be begging for trouble.

In Parliamentary systems, the Premiere has much less power than the President. Most of the power rests in the 2 upper houses where deals must be brokered between parties in order for anything to get done. It can be a pain when a deal can't be reached, but it ensures that insanity like presidential signings never happens.
Scrapping our constitution and reforming the entire government is basically out of the realm of possibility though, barring some kind of cataclysmic event. Within our current system, for as much a bad rap as it gets, the two party deal is really the only way to go. It's not like it's been mandated that there shall only be two viable parties either. By the grace of god, it has just happened to work itself out that way.
 

BurlyShirley

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Kerry was still FAR better than the alternative, though.
I dont know. He was a complete douchebag, and if this financial crisis had occurred under his watch, we'd be unsuccessfully trying to get him re-elected right now instead of trying to put an actually likeable and intelligent person in the whitehouse. Actually, had it not been for Palin and McCain's hard right turn, Id probably prefer McCain over Kerry right now. Who knows how it would have worked out or where McCain would stand on things?
 
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sanjuro

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I dont know. He was a complete douchebag, and if this financial crisis had occurred under his watch, we'd be unsuccessfully trying to get him re-elected right now instead of trying to put an actually likeable and intelligent person in the whitehouse. Had it not been for Palin and McCain's hard right turn, Id probably prefer McCain over Kerry right now.
I think the 2 issues to fix in 2004 is:

pulling out of Iraq before 2008
solving the mortgage crisis before it got to this point

I used to like McCain, so possibly he would have done a better job in 2004, although I believe he would have stayed in Iraq until now. Considering how we are just about to finish pacification there, any president would have to continue occupation.

And I frankly do not know enough about the mortgage/credit crisis to offer a simple suggestion. Part of this was Clinton's fault and Bush did nothing to address it.

Ultimately, I doubt Kerry, Obama, Bill Clinton, or JFK could have fixed the mess that GWB created if they were elected in 2004.
 

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Yeah well, I know the 2-party deal gets a bad rap, but frankly the idea of someone winning the presidency with like 26% of the popular vote if we had 4 or 5 parties is nothing short of frightening. You could probably find 26% of the population that believes in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Having only two parties sort of moderates the extremism.
Most places handle that by having two elections, the first for all comers and then a run-off between the two top candidates. Seems sensible to me.
 

jimmydean

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Most places handle that by having two elections, the first for all comers and then a run-off between the two top candidates. Seems sensible to me.
Televise it and sell off the commercial time to pay down the deficit! It could be as cool as the Super Bowl commercials.