things @kidwoo likes thread
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columbia got them in 2003
Old sierra designs employees. That's another can of worms... I have a tent made by them in the 90s. I looked them up recently and that purchase almost 30s ago will remain my only one!
definitely two vastly opposing incarnations!
they already have
This is not 'new' this is the entire history of jackson, right back to when the rockefeller family donated the damn mountains for the park in order to preserve their view.
man there's this book you should read....
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Thank fucking God they did, or it would be a strip mall from Hoback to Moran.
You know all of those bland, lame hellscapes of sprawl in Texas and California?
yeah, it would be ‘something’ like that.
You know all of those bland, lame hellscapes of sprawl in Texas and California?
yeah, it would be ‘something’ like that.
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Definitely the only two options! Nope, no others in there. It's either national park with almost no infrastructure or urban sprawl.
As we know rugged mountaintops are the choice of developers for strip malls.
Sure would be a shame if there were a bunch of shitty development in the valley
The natural scenery and sounds of nature really are something special
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That doesn’t really make any sense, the way it is now IS the ‘middle ground’ option. If GTNP and Wilderness to the East hadn’t have been secured, what would have prevented all of that land from being 10,000 lots, or whatever?
Nothing, that’s what.
Nothing, that’s what.
Yeah, I Think they things Woo and I generally agree with are vastly more than what we don't. Smooches!
let's do it
There are two things that are true for both rideit and me (at least I think in rideit's case). Neither of us could ever move to the places we live now with the kinds of jobs and lives we had when we did. That kind of move somewhere that's kind of tough to live and figure it out option for people is long gone. It's worse in Jackson than here but at a certain point out of reach is out of reach. That's both caused by and augmented by the fact that these places are just amenities for rich people. And it's funded very heartily by a conservation movement that accelerates this. It has very little to do with actual conservation and more to do with making rich white people feel both comfortable and guilt free about their lavish lifestyles. There is literally nothing but royalty and their service in these places, more and more every year. It's fucking gross. I can only exist here because of the people I know.
This conservation march does little more than produce manufactured scarcity. Jackson, tahoe, name your town in CO.....these places aren't special because there is cOnSeRvEd land around, they are destinations because they have infrastructure. The mass conservation of everywhere else in the mountain ranges guarantees that they are the only places to do what goes on there. There should be more than one tahoe in the Sierra. There should be more than one town in wyoming that sits at the base of cool mountains like jackson does. You could have something similar in the Wind Rivers but the whole damn range is wilderness.......so everyone is left to fight over jackson which just goes to the highest bidders. Jackson isn't desirable because of untouchable mountains. It's largely special because there are at least a few where a ski area and some bike trails can exist. It's a cool place DESPITE the locked land, not solely because of it. If wilderness etc makes things desireable why isn't everything southease of dubois the rich shit paradise?
So no I don't forgive the people who fund this and do the dirty work of these fucks under some faux pretext of environmentalism. This place used to be nice. Jackson used to be nice. Now it's just assholes barking orders at people working 3 jobs thinking they're saving the planet by buying teslas and patagonia jackets. This is a subject I kinda know by now.
Take it to www.twitter.com
You joined the democratic socialists of america just because you were a whiner, not because you recognized issues in society. You see how dumb that sounds? Discussing societal ills too rough for you?
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Totally agree. When I moved to Driggs, I borrowed 10k from my parents, and bought a bike shop. I grew it solely on the generous credit of Giant, GT, Marín, Trek, and a few others, they lent me 100k of merchandise the first year on just a promise. I paid $300 dollars a month rent on the shop, and $300 on my apartment. We bought our first house in '01, 20% down, $800 a month mortgage.
I helped put my wife through grad school, and sold the shop for a few hundred K in '06, just before the market collapse.
Lot of luck, and some good planning. Bought the Jackson house for basically nothing in '13, at the bottom of the market. No one wanted it, it was a short sale on the courthouse steps. A true dump. We gutted it and renovated it.
So now I am housing secure, but basically a bike bum with a few money-producing gigs.
Can't really think of where else we would go, and start over.
I helped put my wife through grad school, and sold the shop for a few hundred K in '06, just before the market collapse.
Lot of luck, and some good planning. Bought the Jackson house for basically nothing in '13, at the bottom of the market. No one wanted it, it was a short sale on the courthouse steps. A true dump. We gutted it and renovated it.
So now I am housing secure, but basically a bike bum with a few money-producing gigs.
Can't really think of where else we would go, and start over.
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by golly you've done it!
no southwest pacific slave labor and an endless supply of raw materials!
Some of the wage growth (sic) comparisons the author lays out in that book on teton valley that you should definitely read are fucking astounding.
Mountain towns went from places where a legit ski bum could exist to straight up fiefdoms. I don't consider the people making it happen allies, regardless of their pretty marketing materials with a pic of a wolf on it.
meh, I didn't start the thread
In 8 days we may have a court ruling bitch slapping some of the assholes I bitch about. That's all the strength I have left.
Weaksauce. 
I'll go shove a tesla off a road somewhere. I gotta ninja up because they have 4 way cameras.Weaksauce.
IED WTF 
But first, offer a tweaker the opportunity to take out the Catalytic Converter, and you won’t tell on him.
I just asked him to get out and check the track pressure.....don't remember anything after that.
New wealth and delusions of grandeur take care of that just fine all by their own bad self.
I can't believe that dude is alive right now given what rolled over him.
Trying to work Ken Block into this, but I got nothing that does not come off as totatlly tasteless.
RIP Ken.
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
RIP Ken.
Sorry, I'll get me coat.
you have details?
some
Jeremy Renner Was Plowing Driveway, Airlifted to Hospital After Snowplow Accident
A new video, obtained by TMZ, shows Jeremy Renner getting rushed to the hospital via helicopter soon after getting into a serious snowplowing accident.
www.tmz.com
linked from here
Reddit - Dive into anything
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sweet jeebus, run over by a snowcatsome
Jeremy Renner Was Plowing Driveway, Airlifted to Hospital After Snowplow Accident
A new video, obtained by TMZ, shows Jeremy Renner getting rushed to the hospital via helicopter soon after getting into a serious snowplowing accident.
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Reddit - Dive into anything
fresh compressible snow is the only thing that kept that dude from pancaking.
Private property and all that but I'll be watching for details on how a snowcat magically rolls by itself. Even in neutral it shouldn't do that.
Donald Trump Jr. signs 7-figure podcast deal with Rumble
Rumble will exclusively host the podcast called "Triggered with Don Jr."
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Yeah very hard to understand. I'm not familiar with operation of those things and can only guess, but unless there was some malfunction and it started moving my itself, it seems either he did something pretty risky or maybe someone else was involved despite reports that he was alone. Who knows, could be just one of those freak things. In any case, hope he pulls through.
