thinking about building a rally car:NBR
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I too would be interested in something like this, considering I'll be getting my license soon and well....will try to get something that would make a decent platform for rally or street. 
mtnbkr4235 said:I too would be interested in something like this, considering I'll be getting my license soon and well....will try to get something that would make a decent platform for rally or street.
your insurance will be high enough as it is.
Thats why I want to get a cheap car, like an old civic or neon or something. lol.chicodude01 said:
Of course my ultimate old-car would be a 88 Audi GT Coupe since they're like 1-2K online.
audi s4 :wink:
I test drove one the other day... not what I expected, but still a nice car.manhattanprjkt83 said:
mtnbkr4235 said:Thats why I want to get a cheap car, like an old civic or neon or something. lol. QUOTE]
Too bad you're in CO- I have a red '96 Neon w/45K mi on it that I'm selling!
i just replied to a thread where you were considering filing for bankruptcy!?!?!??!!?!
do you know how much of a money pit a rally car will be? or do you just plan on driving it around but not really racing it?
do you know how much of a money pit a rally car will be? or do you just plan on driving it around but not really racing it?
If you have cash to spend on a rally car isn't that cash that could get you out of debt. You're the kind of person that gives Chapter 11 a bad name. "I don't want to pay my debts, so I'll file for protection from my creditors. Yeah, that's the ticket." Chapter 11 is for people who have nowhere left to go.biggins said:
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go AWD for teh rally car...would be fun in alot of those roads down there while it was street legal too
go AWD for teh rally car...would be fun in alot of those roads down there while it was street legal too
oh and search for rally car type forums, they usually have links to things like that
damn lets play the bash biggins all to hell game. did i say i was gonna be doing this now? its just something that interests me. i say cash because once i get this debt off of me im not getting any more debt. i will live on cash only basis. of course i would like to buy a house one day but that is an exception.Lex said:
Sorry. I didn't mean to bash you personally. Obviously I don't know the particulars of your case, but it just seems like people have started to use the law to avoid problems they incurred upon themselves. The whole notion of using the law to shield you from your creditors and then living this cash lifestyle you're talking about is what twists me the wrong way.biggins said:
I know people who have declared bankruptcy and after 10 years they were just starting to get back in the good graces of lending institutions. Do a little reading in the links below and you'll see that it isn't that easy.
http://www.txnb.uscourts.gov/general/ch_07_info.jsp
http://www.txnb.uscourts.gov/general/ch_11_info.jsp
When I gradulated college I was about $7,000 in debt to credit cards with around 19% interest. On top of that I had another $15,000 in student loans. What did I do? I moved in with Mom and Dad and busted my azz working to pay off the credit cards. Did I have a high paying job? Not really. I just dedicated myself to getting out from underneath it. I didn't buy anything, and if I had owned anything worth selling it would have been gone. On top of that I drove an old Hyundai Excel (gold no less). You'd be amazed how quickly the debt goes down when you're throwing all of your resources at it.
Hey man, building a rally car is not as difficult as people are saying.
First off, if you aren't using the car for racing, then nothing really needs to be done. You can, in theory, take any car and drive it on dirt. Normal modifications help. If you are getting serious, suspension upgrades and skidplates are a good direction to go in. Most important is probably brakes, as if you can't slow down, you'll hit a tree. Then maybe another tree, and perhaps a third after that. If you pick a FWD car, a good ebrake is essential for J turns and handbrake turns.
As for the FWD vs. AWD....you most certainly can get away with FWD, but remember that it will get stuck more easily, and you will have less traction.
You do not need seam welding or a FIA spec cage. They help with stiffness and safety, but are not necessary for backwoods cruising.
If you aren't racing, serious engine mods are really that important either.
You can get away with a decent set of snow tires for most any surface.
Rally crosses are open to almost any car with seatbelts. You can get a good idea of what is necessary there, and there's probably something in your area. You can move up to clubrally if you want to race, but you'll be faced with more restrictions and more safety equipment.
You don't "need" much to drive on dirt. If you want to go faster and safer, then costs start rising.
I'm working on getting this bling cruiser in my driveway.
First off, if you aren't using the car for racing, then nothing really needs to be done. You can, in theory, take any car and drive it on dirt. Normal modifications help. If you are getting serious, suspension upgrades and skidplates are a good direction to go in. Most important is probably brakes, as if you can't slow down, you'll hit a tree. Then maybe another tree, and perhaps a third after that. If you pick a FWD car, a good ebrake is essential for J turns and handbrake turns.
As for the FWD vs. AWD....you most certainly can get away with FWD, but remember that it will get stuck more easily, and you will have less traction.
You do not need seam welding or a FIA spec cage. They help with stiffness and safety, but are not necessary for backwoods cruising.
If you aren't racing, serious engine mods are really that important either.
You can get away with a decent set of snow tires for most any surface.
Rally crosses are open to almost any car with seatbelts. You can get a good idea of what is necessary there, and there's probably something in your area. You can move up to clubrally if you want to race, but you'll be faced with more restrictions and more safety equipment.
You don't "need" much to drive on dirt. If you want to go faster and safer, then costs start rising.
I'm working on getting this bling cruiser in my driveway.
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Nice Celica, a friend of mine has one of those except for well...its beat up and makes weird noises. Definitely a fun car to drive though,Sandwich said:
. I think I'll probably end up getting a neon or a 2.5RS if possible, haha.
hrrrrrrrrm, it's an AMC eagle....
My bad, sorry about that.Sandwich said:
From this angle it looked like a Celica. And the wheels look similar to those that came on Celica's from the mid 80s.
Trade in or sell your Honda and buy a 90 or 91 AWD DSM (Talon, Eclipse or Laser). You can find them pretty easily from 1000-2k depending on the condition. They are rally ready. The biggest weakness of the 1st 2 years of DSM was the 3 bolt (as apposed to 4 bolt) rear Axles. However if you are not drag racing the car it will not be as prevelant. There is an ENDLESS supply of parts and information for next to nothing regarding these cars. In their stock form they are ~200hp and for about $0.50 in parts and a little knowledge you can bump that HP by 20 ponies by cutting a vacume hose and inserting a bleeder. I had 2 of these cars and they are fun. I used to love taking it to my parents ranch in Ocala where there were endless loose over limestone roads. I can only imagine how much fun it would be on all those forest roads in the Asheville area.
Good luck.. and regarding that whole Bankruptcy/cash flow thing... Be responsible, but remember you only live once and you cant take it with you!
Good luck.. and regarding that whole Bankruptcy/cash flow thing... Be responsible, but remember you only live once and you cant take it with you!
biggins, check out bensrallypage.com.
Most of the info I got was from looking at www.rallyclassified.com and checking out each car. You just pick up on things that need to be done and what each car has, etc. Certainly you can race an STi, but that doesn't mean a VW Rabbit can't be easily as fun.
http://www.scca.org/_filelibrary/File/2004PerfRallyRules0512a.pdf
(i think that's the link, if not, check www.scca.org and search for rally rulebook). That is essential. All the info you need for each class is listed. Production is the cheapest, obviously, and has a class for 2wd. All you need is a SCCA spec cage and applicable safety devices and you can race.
do a search for rallies in your area. Around here, http://www.ner.org/Rally/perfrally_main_page.html is what i found. It gives a brief description of what rallying is and allows you to check out upcoming events. I would imagine there would be even more in CO.
Most of the info I got was from looking at www.rallyclassified.com and checking out each car. You just pick up on things that need to be done and what each car has, etc. Certainly you can race an STi, but that doesn't mean a VW Rabbit can't be easily as fun.
http://www.scca.org/_filelibrary/File/2004PerfRallyRules0512a.pdf
(i think that's the link, if not, check www.scca.org and search for rally rulebook). That is essential. All the info you need for each class is listed. Production is the cheapest, obviously, and has a class for 2wd. All you need is a SCCA spec cage and applicable safety devices and you can race.
do a search for rallies in your area. Around here, http://www.ner.org/Rally/perfrally_main_page.html is what i found. It gives a brief description of what rallying is and allows you to check out upcoming events. I would imagine there would be even more in CO.