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This could get really big... and ugly. Corruption in Washington

Damn True

Damn True

Monkey Pimp
Sep 10, 2001
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Between a rock and a hard place.
DaveW said:
Yeah it's not a bad place.... I can think of worse places to live. ;)

I'd be happy to take you out for some riding if you turn up down here. :)
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Not on the radar right now. This years travel will be to Italy for my wedding, and next year we are going to Chaing Mai in Thailand.
 
MikeD

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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chez moi
Oddly enough, I'm a fan of Monteith's Black Ale. I googled it and it gets atrocious reviews...but man, it tastes great ice-cold out of the tap at the brewery.

Care to UPS me a case or two, kiwis?? :) Supposedly Trader Joe's in the US carries it, but almost never has it in stock, and NEVER has the black.
 
Changleen

Changleen

Paranoid Member
Jan 9, 2004
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MikeD said:
Oddly enough, I'm a fan of Monteith's Black Ale. I googled it and it gets atrocious reviews...but man, it tastes great ice-cold out of the tap at the brewery.

Care to UPS me a case or two, kiwis?? :) Supposedly Trader Joe's in the US carries it, but almost never has it in stock, and NEVER has the black.
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That's be about $60 - $80 in carriage alone! PM me if you're serious.
 
The Amish

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
george carlin
 
DaveW

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
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The bunker at parliament
MikeD said:
Oddly enough, I'm a fan of Monteith's Black Ale. I googled it and it gets atrocious reviews...but man, it tastes great ice-cold out of the tap at the brewery.

Care to UPS me a case or two, kiwis?? :) Supposedly Trader Joe's in the US carries it, but almost never has it in stock, and NEVER has the black.
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Yeah the black is my all time fave. :cool:
If you want some pm me your addy ;)
 
MikeD

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
11,737
1,820
chez moi
Changleen said:
That's be about $60 - $80 in carriage alone! PM me if you're serious.
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Oh, I'm serious.

This is my serious face.

Both Chang and Dave, thanks! I'm at a temporary address in Georgia right now, but I can get packages here... I'll PM you when I can get the actual address...it's sort of an odd place.

MD
 
DRB

DRB

unemployed bum
Oct 24, 2002
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Watchin' you. Writing it all down.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/11/house.ethics/index.html

Indictments, investigations, a resignation -- and now a top lobbyist has struck a deal to tell his presumably sordid tale to prosecutors. It's enough to rattle the handcuffs of even a convicted official.

The past year was a tough one for ethics in Congress, and the coming year may be worse. So why is the House ethics committee so steadfastly silent?
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Unlike the Senate, the House forbids ethics complaints from outsiders, so hardly a whisper has been heard from the committee as ethical, even criminal, complaints have rained down on House members.

Five Democrats and five Republicans sit on the committee, and both parties say they want to restore ethical standards in the Capitol, but the committee has had nothing to say about the spate of recent ethical troubles. That has political activists on both the left and the right saying the ethics truce itself is unethical.

They are making rare alliances with each other to lobby Congress on the matter. Conservative Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch. "We're in a coalition of many groups," he says, "some from the far left, all concerned about congressional ethics reform. It's not a matter of Republicans versus Democrats, or liberals versus conservatives. It's a matter of crooks versus the rest of us!"

Melanie Sloan, a liberal, disagrees with Fitton about almost everything, except this. "It's a total disaster," she says. As head of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, she is used to fighting hopeless causes, but she is digging in with her conservative allies to force reform of the ethics committee.

"It needs to be repaired quickly so that the American people can have some confidence in the institution of the House of Representatives," she says.

CNN contacted the ethics committee and was told congressional rules forbid them from discussing much of what they do publicly, and some of the corrective measures they take against members are properly private.

They acknowledge that the committee has not been a hotbed of activity for quite awhile. However, they point out that the committee is being given more funds for investigations, a bigger staff, and a promise of improvement is in the air.
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Ah its the lack of funds that have held them back.
 
fluff

fluff

Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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Feeling the lag
DRB said:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/11/house.ethics/index.html





Ah its the lack of funds that have held them back.
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So, to get politicians to do what you want them to do you must give them money. And to get them to do what they are supposed to do you must give them money. Yet if to get them not to do what they are supposed to do people also give them money...

What happens if you don't give them any money? Do they spontaneously combust perhaps? If so I vote to freeze all payments to politicians until the explosions stop.
 
DRB

DRB

unemployed bum
Oct 24, 2002
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Watchin' you. Writing it all down.
fluff said:
So, to get politicians to do what you want them to do you must give them money. And to get them to do what they are supposed to do you must give them money. Yet if to get them not to do what they are supposed to do people also give them money...

What happens if you don't give them any money? Do they spontaneously combust perhaps? If so I vote to freeze all payments to politicians until the explosions stop.
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No I think that everyone else spontaneously combusts and the politicians get all the money anyway.
 
Echo

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Slacking at work
DRB said:
No I think that everyone else spontaneously combusts and the politicians get all the money anyway.
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If I read too much more stuff like this, there's actually a chance I could spontaneously combust :mumble:
 
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