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zod

zod

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From Drudge:

Before voting even began in Philladelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location... Developing...
 
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N8 v2.0

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zod said:
From Drudge:

Before voting even began in Philladelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location... Developing...
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I'd be will to bet a large sum of cash, that there are more far more fraudulent votes for democrats than the other way around. This is where all the dem's lawyers are going to really hurt their case when they demand recounts and verification...

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s1ngletrack

s1ngletrack

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Aug 17, 2004
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This election is going to be a clusterf*ck - even if there is absolutely 0 voter fraud - maybe our new pres. will be able to officially take offfice in about 2008.
 
Westy

Westy

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s1ngletrack said:
This election is going to be a clusterf*ck - even if there is absolutely 0 voter fraud - maybe our new pres. will be able to officially take offfice in about 2008.
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Remember in the 80's when crackpots were saying that Reagan was going to start a war so he could remain in office? Maybe Bush plans on staying in office no matter what by screwing up the elections so no new pres can be selected. When voting should I wear my formal tin foil fedora or my casual tin foil ball cap? :confused: :D :mumble: :oink:
 
Tenchiro

Tenchiro

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Jul 19, 2002
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But according to this, they were just reading the wrong counter....

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2512572

Officials say no pre-existing vote count on Philadelphia machines

PHILADELPHIA Did you hear about the voting machines in Philadelphia that supposedly had votes recorded on them already when the polls opened?
It turns out, that's not exactly true.

Republican election observers claimed there were thousands of votes on the machines when the polls opened. But city election officials and the district attorney went to check it out -- and they quickly said the poll-watchers had gotten it wrong.

They say the observers had pulled the numbers from a counter that records every vote ever cast on the machine in every election. It's not the same as the counter that records how many votes will be counted in this election.

A deputy city commissioner says the charge was "absolutely ridiculous."

That didn't keep rumors of fraud from making their way onto the Internet.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 
Damn True

Damn True

Monkey Pimp
Sep 10, 2001
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Tenchiro said:
But according to this, they were just reading the wrong counter....

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2512572

Officials say no pre-existing vote count on Philadelphia machines

PHILADELPHIA Did you hear about the voting machines in Philadelphia that supposedly had votes recorded on them already when the polls opened?
It turns out, that's not exactly true.

Republican election observers claimed there were thousands of votes on the machines when the polls opened. But city election officials and the district attorney went to check it out -- and they quickly said the poll-watchers had gotten it wrong.

They say the observers had pulled the numbers from a counter that records every vote ever cast on the machine in every election. It's not the same as the counter that records how many votes will be counted in this election.

A deputy city commissioner says the charge was "absolutely ridiculous."

That didn't keep rumors of fraud from making their way onto the Internet.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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Nothing to see here, move along. Get back to your homes people. :thumb:
 
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(AP) Voters wait in line to vote at Buchtel High School, Tuesday, Nov. 2, 2004 in Akron, Ohio....
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Polling places experienced scattered problems Tuesday as legions of lawyers, election-rights activists and computer scientists watched, particularly in battleground states, for any trouble that could disenfranchise voters.

New rules, new voters and a tight presidential contest combined to create "a recipe for problems," said Sean Greene, who was watching Cleveland polls for the Election Reform Information Project, a nonpartisan research group on election reform.

Nearly one in three voters, including about half of those in Florida, were expected to cast ballots using ATM-style voting machines that computer scientists have criticized for their potential for software glitches, hacking and malfunctioning.

Other major concerns were over provisional ballots, new this presidential election and a potential source of delayed counts, and whether poll workers were adequate and sufficiently trained.

"To a certain extent, provisional ballots are second-class votes," said Spencer Overton, a law professor at George Washington University. "You can cast a provisional ballot but we don't know if officials will count it."

Long lines greeted voters in many big cities in closely contested states, and some polls opened late.

At one New Orleans precinct, all three voting machines were broken and voters were told to come back later, said Bill Quigley, an attorney working for the NAACP.

In South Carolina, problems were reported in a handful of precincts in two counties using electronic machines. Officials said voters were forced to switch to paper ballots while technicians got the iVotronic touch screens from Electronic Systems & Software up and running within about 90 minutes.

Voters in one Richmond, Va., precinct using an old-style machine briefly cast ballots in the wrong congressional race.

And in Volusia County, Fla., a memory card in an optical-scan voting machine failed Monday at an early voting site and didn't count 13,000 ballots. Officials planned to feed the ballots, in which voters fill in a bubble, and count them Tuesday.

Tension was high at some Ohio polling places, including at one in Cleveland where a Democratic official claimed he was thrown out by a screaming poll judge before another told him he could return to the church basement.

Chellie Pingree, president of the citizens lobbying group Common Cause, said her group was running a toll-free voting complaint and information hotline that logged 20,000 calls by 10 a.m. EST.

"Many of the states where the election is closest and contested is where we're hearing from people most," she said.

Pingree said high turnout meant "more confusion to already overburdened, understaffed polling places, many of which will have as many lawyers and poll challengers as they have people voting."

A separate Web site and phone hotline maintained by nonpartisan and liberal voting-rights activists fielded thousands of complaints, including from people who showed up at polling stations to discover they weren't registered.

"If people are not being formally denied the right to vote, they are having to work hard enough to vote that many of them will not have the opportunity," said Will Doherty, executive director for the Verified Voting Foundation, a nonpartisan voting-rights group.

Both parties had thousands of lawyers dispatched and on call to respond to trouble. In a decision early Tuesday, a federal appeals court cleared the way for political parties to challenge voters' eligibility at polling places throughout Ohio.

A key problem is the lack of a unified voting system for the nation, the legacy of a patchwork of balloting technologies, regulations, partisan bickering and litigation.

A federal law passed in response to the 2000 election mess required states to offer provisional, or backup, ballots to voters who find they are not listed on the rolls, or whose eligibility is somehow in question. The ballots are set aside and evaluated after the election - they could take 10 days or longer to resolve.

But states have interpreted the law differently. Millions of newly registered voters may wrongly assume they can vote at any precinct in their city, town or county. State officials and courts have disagreed on whether provisional ballots are valid when a voter is at the wrong precinct.

The measure also requires first-time voters who registered by mail to provide identification when they show up at the polls, though disputes have arisen over whether to extend that to all first-time registrants and what documents count.

Add to that confusion: absentee ballots.

More than a dozen states missed the recommended deadline to mail ballots overseas, and in Florida's Broward County, thousands of absentee ballots went missing or got delayed.

As for electronic voting, many of the problems - whether accidental or intentional - may not be known until well after Tuesday - if at all. Most of the ATM-style machines, including all of Florida's, lack paper records that could be used to verify the electronic results in a recount.

Florida requires state election administrators to count - and, if necessary, recount - an election within 11 days. But lawsuits could drag out the results for weeks, even forcing the courts to decide the outcome.

Four years ago, the Supreme Court intervened in a recount after 36 days, handing George W. Bush a 537-vote victory in Florida and with it the presidency.
 
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