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Crashby

Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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I pulled everything out of the market around the end of '06. This market is again way overextended. We have just started to feel the pinch of the housing market decline. US savings rate is actually at a negative, with personal debt and international trade gaps near record levels.

I think we have seen the highs for the year and I believe that a long-term down trend will ensue from this point into the September/October period.
 

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
9,841
19
So Cal
How is it I hear about this crap from wall street and not CNN?

No, all I get on my RSS feed is crap about anna nicole's rotting corpse and the chick from American Idol with the topless and oral treats photos.
Maybe because you are getting your "news" from CNN.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
8,807
9
looking for classic NE singletrack
Greenspan said the US is likely to go into recession. Thanks you big dummy
he said that yesterday, and the market didn't even blink.

this dropoff is tied to China's 9% drop yesterday. besides, who cares about a 1 day drop, even 1.6% isn't much when you think about the bigger picture (on $10k in stock, it's $100). i'd be more worried about a long-term correction in the 10-12% range... :twitch:
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
Consumer Confidence Gains in February
By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO
The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 27, 2007; 12:52 PM


NEW YORK -- Consumer confidence rose to its highest level in five-and-a-half years amid optimism that the nation's economy is creating enough jobs, a private research group said Tuesday.

The New York-based Conference Board said that its Consumer Confidence Index rose to 112.5, up from a revised 110.2 in January. Analysts had expected the reading to be 109.

The February index was the highest since August 2001, when the reading was 114, indicating that consumers will continue to fuel the nation's economic growth in the near future.

In a statement, Lynn Franco, director of The Conference Board Consumer Research Center, said that "improving present-day business conditions and an easing in the proportion of consumers claiming jobs are hard to get have combined to lift consumers' spirits."

"All in all, it appears that the pace of economic growth exhibited in the final months of 2006 has carried over into early 2007 and may have even gained a little momentum," she added.

The Present Situation Index, which measures how shoppers feel now about economic conditions, increased to 139.0 from 133.9. The Expectations Index, which measures consumers' outlook in the next six months, edged up slightly to 94.8 from 94.4 last month.

Economists closely monitor consumer confidence because consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of all U.S. economic activity

The upbeat report from the Conference Board came amid largely sober news about the global economy, which dragged down the stock market. In late morning trading, the Dow Jones industrial average dropped 142.28, or 1.13 percent, to 12,489.98 as stock markets around the world slipped when worries rose that the U.S. and Chinese economies are cooling.

A warning from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan Monday that the U.S. economy may be headed for a recession also dampened investors' moods.

On Tuesday, the Commerce Department that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the largest amount in three months exacerbated worries about the U.S. economy, as did a Standard & Poor's index showing single-family home prices across the nation were unchanged in December.

The National Association of Realtors announced Tuesday that sales of existing homes rose in January by the largest amount in two years, but it also reported that median home prices declined for a sixth straight month.

"We have had a soft patch of data this month. It shows that the economy is still growing but at a below average rate," said Gary Thayer, chief economist at A.G. Edwards & Sons Inc.

Thayer said he doesn't expect consumer sentiment to drop off unless unemployment increases significantly, however.

The Conference Board's consumer confidence report _ derived from responses through February 20 _ said that consumers who believe that jobs are "hard to get" declined to a five-and-a-half year low.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
11,003
149
The Cleft of Venus
We'll see...

my International fund was sitting on $23.41/share as of yesterday evening.

Be interesting to see what it is tommorrow.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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6
this dropoff is tied to China's 9% drop yesterday. besides, who cares about a 1 day drop, even 1.6% isn't much when you think about the bigger picture (on $10k in stock, it's $100). i'd be more worried about a long-term correction in the 10-12% range... :twitch:
yep, that's what i heard on NPR this morning.

bittersweet for me: i dumped a block of HP at 43 last week (39 now), then moved it into a mid-cap hi yield yesterday.

meh, it's just money.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,431
22,523
Sleazattle
We'll see...

my International fund was sitting on $23.41/share as of yesterday evening.

Be interesting to see what it is tommorrow.
That is because the dollar is ****. Anything that is based on non US value will appear to go up.

-220 since this thread was started.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
-220 since this thread was started.
???
i just saw -500 on msnbc

anybody care to speculate which stox will start a healthy rebound to restorative levels w/in a week or two? i was thinking SBUX & XOM (possibly get back in w/ HPQ)
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,431
22,523
Sleazattle
???
i just saw -500 on msnbc

anybody care to speculate which stox will start a healthy rebound to restorative levels w/in a week or two? i was thinking SBUX & XOM (possibly get back in w/ HPQ)

Sorry -330, it was at about -170 when the thread was started.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
22,032
7,948
Colorado
I'm down close to 10% today alone. I've lost all my gains on the year.
Guess it's a good thing I switched over to longterm holds from trading stocks... Damn. Damn. Damn.
At least I'm getting towards my buy mark on a few stocks I wanted to get into...
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,431
22,523
Sleazattle
US DOLLAR DROPS

NEW YORK—At the close of trading Monday, the U.S. dollar dipped to a record low of $.60 against the counterfeit U.S. dollar, which also outpaced the dollar against the euro and the yen.

"We don't even accept regular U.S. dollars anymore," said Union, NJ 7-Eleven manager Rick Grove, echoing the sentiments of merchants nationwide. "We've gotten stung a few times taking in the real ones. I always tell my cashiers, if it feels fake to the touch, and you can't see both sides when you hold it up to the light, it's fine."

Concerned about further devalutation of standard U.S. currency, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has suggested that Congress outlaw counterfeit bills entirely.
 

reflux

Turbo Monkey
Mar 18, 2002
4,617
2
G14 Classified
US DOLLAR DROPS

NEW YORK—At the close of trading Monday, the U.S. dollar dipped to a record low of $.60 against the counterfeit U.S. dollar, which also outpaced the dollar against the euro and the yen.

"We don't even accept regular U.S. dollars anymore," said Union, NJ 7-Eleven manager Rick Grove, echoing the sentiments of merchants nationwide. "We've gotten stung a few times taking in the real ones. I always tell my cashiers, if it feels fake to the touch, and you can't see both sides when you hold it up to the light, it's fine."

Concerned about further devalutation of standard U.S. currency, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has suggested that Congress outlaw counterfeit bills entirely.
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