[Electric_City]

I'd like to see an end to constant unnecessary change- Shimano is my main one here. But there are plenty of others. Let's look at XT brakes for instance.

Say you need XT brake pads. There's probably 10 different versions of XT bp by now. Not to mention compounds, ice tech, 2vs4 piston and other variations. You need an exact model number. That fucking blows.

Trek is another one. Every year I broke a frame, the replacement chainstays caused compatability issues. 135mm to 12x142. The next one had a flip-chip. So new seatstays had to come a week later. Different brake mounts were needed now. WTF...

 

[Sandwich]

I'd like to see an end to constant unnecessary change- Shimano is my main one here. But there are plenty of others. Let's look at XT brakes for instance.

Say you need XT brake pads. There's probably 10 different versions of XT bp by now. Not to mention compounds, ice tech, 2vs4 piston and other variations. You need an exact model number. That fucking blows.

Trek is another one. Every year I broke a frame, the replacement chainstays caused compatability issues. 135mm to 12x142. The next one had a flip-chip. So new seatstays had to come a week later. Different brake mounts were needed now. WTF...

Everybody wants that aside from the industry. I tried to make a point about bottom bracket standards only to find out that there's another bottom bracket standard (T47 internal). What absolute rubbish....

 

[Jm_]

The problem there is marginal gains to inconclusive improvements.

 

[Gary]

Who's going to tell @Electric_City about the shift to 29 then 27.5 then 29 then both 29 and 27.5?

 

[Gary]

Top tip: Shimano brake pads have a handy product code printed on the backing plate to help you buy the correct replacements.

 

[rideit]

The problem there is marginal gains to inconclusive improvements.

However, that *might* be a little of ‘not seeing the forest for the trees’. The totality of all of these marginal gains over the last 40 years is having the most fucking outstanding bikes today that are just so, so fun to ride. Sure, there were some blind alleyways and wrong turns, but here we are.

 

[SylentK]

If you're going to use tiny ass Torx bolts, please label them clearly. Especially if they are recessed and you can't tell very well if they are a Torx or Allen without first jacking up the bolt with the wrong tool.

 

[toodles]

I'd like to see an end to constant unnecessary change- Shimano is my main one here. But there are plenty of others. Let's look at XT brakes for instance.

Shimano's decision to invent a new I-Spec version every year is bad enough, but I had to replace a brake line on a borrowed DJ last week which led me down the rabbit hole of Shimano brake line kits. Dear mother of god..... there must be 15 different combinations of brake hose and mounting bolts depending on the caliper and lever.

If you're going to use tiny ass Torx bolts, please label them clearly. Especially if they are recessed and you can't tell very well if they are a Torx or Allen without first jacking up the bolt with the wrong tool.

Special hatred for the use of Torx security bits on bike parts. Thats a whole extra level of BS

 

[Jm_]

Is this what's wrong with the Industry?

 

[djjohnr]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

 

[Gary]

I had to replace a brake line on a borrowed DJ last week which led me down the rabbit hole of Shimano brake line kits. Dear mother of god..... there must be 15 different combinations of brake hose and mounting bolts depending on the caliper and lever

 

[toodles]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

Commencal Clash is still a good un. Nukeproof still does some as well.

 

[StiHacka]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

My 27.5 Megatower is still fun.

 

[Gary]

FUN = 26

 

[djjohnr]

Commencal Clash is still a good un. Nukeproof still does some as well.

Yup, more options is always better though. However, I fully understand that I'm well in the minority. I think it's telling that the V5 Nomad was only around for ~1 year before being replaced by the V6 mullet.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

 

[kidwoo]

Resignation letters.

 

[Westy]

Resignation letters.

No Totum, but lighter?

 

[slimshady]

20mm boost axles

Fuck boost. There's absolutely no need for that shit. Or any other supermegahiperboost iteration.

Put "lower prices" on the "Wanted" column please. Our sport is getting gentrified again.

 

[Da Peach]

Brakes that feel like Shimano brakes when they actually work, but all the time.

 

[Electric_City]

Shimano's decision to invent a new I-Spec version every year is bad enough, but I had to replace a brake line on a borrowed DJ last week which led me down the rabbit hole of Shimano brake line kits. Dear mother of god..... there must be 15 different combinations of brake hose and mounting bolts depending on the caliper and lever.



Special hatred for the use of Torx security bits on bike parts. Thats a whole extra level of BS

I agree completely. This is why I've established a PASSION OF HATE for sram shit. Like my post in the "TIWWWTI" thread, they have a dictionary of how to install a fucking BB and disc brake mounts. Most others, you buy the conversion mount, put in the 2 bolts supplied and mount the caliper. Done.

Sram? Redicoulous.

 

[Andeh]

Brakes that feel like Shimano brakes when they actually work, but all the time.

Dominions

 

[Jm_]

Return to coil shocks. On everything.

 

[Westy]

Thread summary: Make it 2006 again.

• More aluminum bikes with external routing

All bikes have external routing

 

[buckoW]

Dominions

That solution is too easy. What are we going to do then.

 

[toodles]

I'd like if NSK, NTN or SKF started making the proprietary bearing sizes and stuff that Enduro does. While I'm stoked the extended race options do away with the fiddly little spacers that go in pivots, Enduro bearings are bloody useless for reliability/sealing.

 

[Westy]

That solution is too easy. What are we going to do then.

Complain incessantly.

 

[iRider]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

Propain offers the Spindrift in 27.5.

 

[iRider]

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That is not long travel, that is enduro!

 

[Happymtb.fr]

The return of full 27.5 long travel bikes

Airdrop Skacker: 200mm front and rear

https://m.pinkbike.com/news/interview-airdrop-bikes-and-the-slacker-dh-bike-development.html

Not available yet but only 100 frames will be made for around £1800

 

[Happymtb.fr]

How good would they have to be to offset the fact that they don't make spare parts available?

Really good

 

[HardtailHack]

How good would they have to be to offset the fact that they don't make spare parts available?

Is that grounds for a refund in other parts of the world?
I'm pretty sure it would be in Australia, the government get angry and get you your money back even after warranties have expired if things stop working.

Repair, replace, refund, cancel

Businesses must fix minor problems with products or services by at least giving a free repair. When consumers buy products or services that have a major problem they have certain rights.

www.accc.gov.au

 

[norbar]

However, that *might* be a little of ‘not seeing the forest for the trees’. The totality of all of these marginal gains over the last 40 years is having the most fucking outstanding bikes today that are just so, so fun to ride. Sure, there were some blind alleyways and wrong turns, but here we are.

Sorry but not really at least not for all changes.

The real reason bikes are fun to ride are geometry and suspension. Bikes were plenty durable in 2010. Since then we went through a billion of standard changes. Bikes didn't really get lighter if you think alu frames.

So assuming all of the "0.1% change in excel" will translate to real noticeable differences is a bit of a stretch. Some changes make sense. Others are dumb. We can appreciate some of the good while noticing the industry has a tentency to push silly standard so they can market them to us and sell us on new BS.

PS. From those 40 years at least 30 were not marginal gains but someone making a big improvement in 1 area and everyone following

 

[Happymtb.fr]

The real reason bikes are fun to ride are geometry and suspension.

I would argue that good trails and/or good friends is the base of any fun on bikes.

 

[norbar]

I would argue that good trails and/or good friends is the base of any fun on bikes.

I won't dispute that. (Though riding alone can be fun too)

 

[Jm_]

I sent in my DPS to get digressive valving to match bike bike, but it had this installed. Of course they took it off and replaced it with their dipshit system, but I was hoping they would at least send it back to me. Nope. I sent them a follow up asking for it back. If they say they can't, I'll send them a return receipt letter asking for either it back or the amount to buy it refunded. I did not authorize them to keep my property.

Update: Well at least they agreed to refund me the difference of the part.

 

[Gary]

Small reminder:
Riding ANY bike ANYWHERE whether alone or with friends will always be infinitely more fun than harping on and on about what is most "correct" at the present time. Nevermind moaning about what's NOW become "incorrect"

 

[Jm_]

Small reminder:
Riding ANY bike ANYWHERE whether alone or with friends will always be infinitely more fun than harping on and on about what is most "correct" at the present time. Nevermind moaning about what's NOW become "incorrect"

Id like to try that “riding” thing sometime.

 

[Gary]

OOft!

Get well soon!

 

[mykel]

Id like to try that “riding” thing sometime.

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You done fuck'd up I assume.
Hope it's a short recovery.