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This is what we'd like from The Industry™
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I'd like more of this:
I got a set of these (PD-M737) from a guy in Italy on the Retrobike.co.uk forum. New old stock, and they're going on my 2021 Hightower.
Best pedals ever made, with a sprung front so slamming straight down, toe first, heel first, whatever - you're in. I didn't get a set early enough to have the shaped front guide plates to allow for a bit of float, but I can file them down or try some SH52 cleats (versus SH51).
I'm coming from a set of the 821 Saint pedals, which are great, but for the rocky stuff in my riding areas the big platforms just seem like an impediment.
I got a set of these (PD-M737) from a guy in Italy on the Retrobike.co.uk forum. New old stock, and they're going on my 2021 Hightower.
Best pedals ever made, with a sprung front so slamming straight down, toe first, heel first, whatever - you're in. I didn't get a set early enough to have the shaped front guide plates to allow for a bit of float, but I can file them down or try some SH52 cleats (versus SH51).
I'm coming from a set of the 821 Saint pedals, which are great, but for the rocky stuff in my riding areas the big platforms just seem like an impediment.
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Those are the old non-mud-clearing pedals though. The newer generation if something stuck to your cleat or whatever passes through the body much easier.
They probably won't break, but 520s/540s are even better....dirt cheap for 520s too.
I've been lied to:
I ran the 737s for a decade in the worst that New England had to offer - mud, snow, through rocks and roots - and they were fine. Not Crank Brothers mallet or eggbeater level in terms of clearing mud, but they also last years versus the six months that CB pedals last.
The special thing about the 737s is that the front plate is spring as well, allowing for that to move and the cleat to engage even when dirt and mud are present.
Before my current Saint pedals, my last Shimano pedals were the 747s. Those were complete crap.
I'm a bit surprised as I thought I was a Shimano SPD Nerd. They made a clipless pedal that hinged on both the front and the rear?
I thought it was always fixed (not hinged) on the front, only the rear.
If that's the case, are you saying there are 4 bolts to tighten/loosen the engagement (front & rear, 2 sides = 4)
I thought it was always fixed (not hinged) on the front, only the rear.
If that's the case, are you saying there are 4 bolts to tighten/loosen the engagement (front & rear, 2 sides = 4)
Nope, only 2 - one spring fore and one spring aft, so the rear spring on one side is the front spring for the other side. It was always important to get the spring tension indicators to be close or there would be an uneven feel. The hinges front made it possible to just slam straight down or even click in heel first, which was ideal given that these had very little or no float by design.
These were the first SPuDs - 1990 release date. It looks like the pair I have are from 1992. I ran my first pair from 1993 - 2001 or so, save for when I was running flats or the big red cage 626 pedals. My first clipless pedals were Onzas with elastomer tension. Those were absolute garbage.
Shimano's Original SPD Pedal | BIKE Magazine
A look at Shimano's Original SPD Pedals.
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Bike Patton Oswald is onto something. Though weirdly all the bikes I have gotten for review in my bike journo days were sent back to the producer but that's probably because Poland is smaller than US. Though I did end up with some weird spare parts companies forgot about. Unfortunately mostly horrible parts. The good part companies wanted them back (for the most part).
Though the parts that stay the longest are when they get sent to the magazine owner/main editor and he's a moron. I've gotten in trouble so many times because I had to rely on someone incompetent. Probably the main reason why i stopped writing.
Bike Patton Oswalt
Glad you watched that, Seth is not my cup of tea at all. Good for him in building a business around the sport.
interestingly what I get from this is that if you position yourself correctly as big enough to get review parts, but small enough to be last to receive them, you get free stuff.
Can I put Seth in my parts bin? (that's how useful he is to me) Get it? LOL
Ah "reviews". And notice I put that word in quotes, because I'm pretty sure all they do is throw in all the words on the box in the review and say it worked well. And if there's a bad review, they get cut off. So who gets bad reviews anymore? I'm surprised MBUK gives anything less than 4 stars.
I remember....was it 'Mountain Bike' magazine gave a bad review to some major brand, and then said brand cut off all advertisements to it? Thinking Rockshox for some reason. This is probably before SRAM was invented. Like still in the 1990's. Pretty poopy move. But everytime I read a review, I think of the moral of that story....
(that's how useful he is to me) Get it? LOLAh "reviews". And notice I put that word in quotes, because I'm pretty sure all they do is throw in all the words on the box in the review and say it worked well. And if there's a bad review, they get cut off. So who gets bad reviews anymore? I'm surprised MBUK gives anything less than 4 stars.
I remember....was it 'Mountain Bike' magazine gave a bad review to some major brand, and then said brand cut off all advertisements to it? Thinking Rockshox for some reason. This is probably before SRAM was invented. Like still in the 1990's. Pretty poopy move. But everytime I read a review, I think of the moral of that story....
You don't even need to go back that far for that type stuff.Can I put Seth in my parts bin?
Ah "reviews". And notice I put that word in quotes, because I'm pretty sure all they do is throw in all the words on the box in the review and say it worked well. And if there's a bad review, they get cut off. So who gets bad reviews anymore? I'm surprised MBUK gives anything less than 4 stars.
I remember....was it 'Mountain Bike' magazine gave a bad review to some major brand, and then said brand cut off all advertisements to it? Thinking Rockshox for some reason. This is probably before SRAM was invented. Like still in the 1990's. Pretty poopy move. But everytime I read a review, I think of the moral of that story....
For example, Pinkbike vs Evil.
Mountain Bike Action wouldn't run ads for (and couldn't review) VooDoo bikes because the publisher (HiTorque) determined the name had something to do with Satan.
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VooDoo Cycles BANNED from Mountain Bike Action
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Didn't a similar thing happen with EVIL components forcing the name change to e.13?Mountain Bike Action wouldn't run ads for (and couldn't review) VooDoo bikes because the publisher (HiTorque) determined the name had something to do with Satan.
VooDoo Cycles BANNED from Mountain Bike Action
I'm cool at this point don't really need anything else except in frame storage on all bikes, that should be a must.
Pivot 429SL. Not digressive suspension, but digressive damping. The progressiveness is minimal as an XC bike and the LC is pretty opposite of air to counter air effects, so usually digressive at first, progressive mid travel, and digressive towards the end, so the air spring increases fairly normally. The effective spring, as a combination of both, is pretty decent when you are running the right air can. It's not digressive. But whatever combination of the DW forces and all of this requires digressive tunes, which I understand at least on the compression side to just mean fairly normal, that just means tapered stack and that the higher the force, the faster it needs to flow fluid, so the more it will blow off. You could still overwhelm a digressive compression tune by trying to move the fluid too fast, it'll choke at some point. You almost never see linear tunes on compression, except in some wacky setups. I do see linear tunes on rebound sometimes, which makes some sense with HSR, the return force is created by the spring energy which is only a function of it's position.
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Just broke my valve on the rear wheel in two. Never thought such can happen. It turned out it is a mad of aluminium, probably from not the best of alloy. The actual damage was a bent valve (suspecting a sneaky stone) letting all the air out. When I was trying to replace it with the tube I carry for emergency, I had real hard time to remove said valve, as when I was trying to open the nut, the whole valve turned at the same time, so I figured my only chance is breaking it which did not take much (any) effort. I figured it would be nice to have a hex opening on the inside end of these valves instead of a bore. Does such thing exist? Anyway, the valve stem has to be steel from now on, to mitigste the chance of such thing happening again.
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These have a 4mm Allen Key for retention for that reason.
Makes me cringe to think he makes more than 99% of the world class racers out there but gotta respect the hard work and hustle.Bike Patton Oswalt
Glad you watched that, Seth is not my cup of tea at all. Good for him in building a business around the sport.
Thanks for this, I will give these a try! I personally also had a positive experience with their tubelss sealant.Tubeless Valves - V2
Machined from aircraft-grade 7075 aluminium, Muc-Off Tubeless Valves V2 are available in 44mm, 66mm, and 80mm valve lengths and in 10 anodised colour options. Compatible with most tubeless rims, including MTB, DH, enduro, gravel, road, and carbon rims.
These have a 4mm Allen Key for retention for that reason.
Yep! BK's LSD channel is really good, even though I sometimes skip some of the shenanigans and jump straight to the POV footage. The line choices talk in the trackwalk vids are great. I also find it super interesting to watch the evolution in speed and line choices in the POV footages from the first practice to the final race run. Only appealing for bike nerds, yes, but quality stuff nonetheless.
Another channel worth watching is of course MoiMoiTv...but only for the riding IMO. Not a big fan of the MoiMoi shenanigans and goofing around...but the seeing him inside-lining everywhere on the POV footage is quite amazing.
Good points but yeah it can be understandable why some people why think it's cringe worthy seeing some of the youtubers making money - I don't watch them all but I'm sure there are a few out there literally marketing themselves as shitty riders.
Seth might not be for everyone but he's at the very least putting back into the bike community - like helping to get that small bike park built and other things.
It was really interesting with his footage from world champs to see his speed and line choices/testing as the week progressed.