*sigh* Such a muggle. Now we have sub 48lb, sub 65deg HA, sub 13" BB, 170mm travel Ebikes. They are the perfect alternative to pushing a DH bike or riding an Enduro bike uphill to ride a few descents in areas with no uplift access. Allowing roughly double the descending you could achieve pedalling uphill on an enduro bike and almost 3 times more than pushing a DH bike. Pretty much why any DH biased rider would appreciate owning one. and Exactly why they fit in with "what's right with the industry" in countries such as mine with limited uplift, masses of world class descending and ZERO access issues. Not that this was why I mentioned them in the first place. . I happened to be discussing chain retention and the fact slight back pedalling of the crank can cause chain drop and the fact that a freewheel at the crank can put a stop to it. You saw the letter "E" and lost your shit as usual. I guess reading your own user name must cause a melt down every time you log in here too nowadays? You remind me of the lycra idiots in the '90s who ran around all "offended" that DHers were not "earning" their descents so didn't deserve to be riding them as much as they did. Complete fannies!