[Gary]

Sensible hey. I like it.

You mean companies giving out free frames, fancy parts and the latest gimmicks to one of the most well known bike journalists on the internet? Yeah. not exactly a dumb move.

Which product from his $12000 bicycle are you now thinking about spending your money on Kids?

 

[ChrisRobin]

KMC make Shimano chains
IME SRAM chains often shift better on Shimano cassettes anyway.

Quicker shifting, smoother...?

 

[6thElement]

Smith Optics, sent a new nose piece out for free that I offered to pay for. To replace a broken one on my wife's 3 year old set of Ruckus glasses.

 

[Gary]

Quicker shifting, smoother...?

Can be both smoother and quieter.
Shift speed is way more down to derailleur, jockeys and cassette choice. Than the chain itself.
Oh... And whether or not you're dumb enough to believe electricity will move the derailleur cage quicker than a cable can through multiple shifts.

 

[William42]

I think he was asking what specific benefits you were experiencing and guessing examples rather than throwing shade.

 

[Gary]

As a mechanic. Less hassle. In setting up an optimally shifting quiet drivetrain.
As a rider longer working life and greater durability.
Win Win!

BTW Should maybe have said. What I said in my previous post about shifting precision was assuming unworn drivetrain components and cables.

 

[Gary]

I think he was asking what specific benefits you were experiencing and guessing examples rather than throwing shade.

Since the introduction of super wide ratio cassettes and then wireless shifting. I honestly don't think many modern mountainbikers even know what a smooth, quiet, fast shifting drivetrain even feels like anymore.

 

[Jm_]

My X01 11shifter with eagle derailleur and Garbaruk 50t shifts every freaking time i click the shifter. Not sure what more there is to have. That's all I goddamn want. On the fatbikes running X01 cassettes with grip shitters and the like, same thing. If I'm never thinking about this while riding, it's working perfectly.

The pedal strikes on the Foes on the other hand...constantly thinking about and got some shorter metal cranks for it installed a couple days ago.

 

[HardtailHack]

My X01 11shifter with eagle derailleur and Garbaruk 50t shifts every freaking time i click the shifter. Not sure what more there is to have. That's all I goddamn want. On the fatbikes running X01 cassettes with grip shitters and the like, same thing. If I'm never thinking about this while riding, it's working perfectly.

The pedal strikes on the Foes on the other hand...constantly thinking about and got some shorter metal cranks for it installed a couple days ago.

Yeah, I don't think my X9 9 speed was any quicker or smoother than the Sunrace, KMC,TRP 11-51combo I have now.
But I guess I guess I think everything from the olden days was shit, I like modern bike stuff.

Except rear hubs, fuck them! A Deore is the most reliable hub I have had in the last three years, and it still skips on occasion.

 

[Gary]

A Deore is the most reliable hub I have had in the last three years, and it still skips on occasion.

lol
What the fuck other hubs have you had?
Shimano freehubs are disposable, and really don't last long if you ride a lot of wet mtb. Even less time if you're big/powerful. and axle bearings need servicing BEFORE any play or roughness presents. The hub shells are bombproof tho

 

[Gary]

My X01 11shifter with eagle derailleur and Garbaruk 50t shifts every freaking time i click the shifter.

Yeah. Old 7spd to the latest 12spd. They all do.

Not sure what more there is to have.

Way less lag. Especially shifting through multiple gears.

That's all I goddamn want.

Fair enough

On the fatbikes running X01 cassettes with grip shitters and the like, same thing.

Yeah. TBF I've NEVER seen a fatbike rider in a hurry.

 

[HardtailHack]

lol
What the fuck other hubs have you had?
Shimano freehubs are disposable, and really don't last long if you ride a lot of wet mtb. Even less time if you're big/powerful. and axle bearings need servicing BEFORE any play or roughness presents. The hub shells are bombproof tho

Yeah it sucks, I hate Shimano freehubs, I asked if I could buy the tool at my LBS to get the freehub apart and they giggled, said they just replace them and that they don't even have the tool.
I need to service my old man's XT hub on his wet weather bike, it has done well but has always felt like it uses tumbled stones in the bearings.

Hadley, Novatec premium and QVIST.
Not great choices, and now that I have a KOM hub coming I expect to add an angry post to the- What's Wrong...... thread.

 

[Gary]

I have a Novatec that's done between 20-25000 miles on a full power Ebike. Ridden in ALL weathers almost daily for 5 years. One full bearing change in that time.
Not all Novatec hubs are shite. and many are a damn sight better than the CNC anodized efforts of the likes of Hope IME.

There was a tool BITD that allowed you to purge the grease and re-grease Shimano freehubs. But it's ultimately a pointless process for jakes and tinkers. Spares are cheap so when they're fucked. (If you REALLY want to stick with Shimano) Just replace the Freehubs as soon as they give you trouble. If you do that you *might* just get the bearings serviced in time so as not to pit the hub shell and cone surfaces

 

[slimshady]

Hey, just saw this featured at BikeRadar:

10mm Fox air shaft extender – Slick and Slide Suspension

Seems like a simpler way to add moar travel to a recent Fox fork.

 

[Gary]

While they were at it should have made it so it converted the shaft to secure by bolt instead of a nut

 

[Jm_]

 

[Jm_]

And I'm dumb, I posted it in the WRONG thread...

 

[jstuhlman]

And I'm dumb, I posted it in the WRONG thread...

i was going to call you out...but you beat me to it

 

[Fool]

Try new things

 

[DaveW]

Good that they are trying something new, that however looks a bit like "social media influencer lame".

 

[HardtailHack]

Try new things

Scorpions?

 

[HardtailHack]

My taint hurts, my back hurts but God damn a modern hardtail with sensible Maxxis tyres and Horizon flats is a bunch of fun.
It was supposed to be the 2000AUD back up bike but the frame is too capable to have shit bits on it.

The fork needs to be lowered 20mm but I'm so lazy I'm leaving it until the first service.

Why did I buy Continental and Pirelli tires? MAXXIS FTMFW!

 

[canadmos]

My taint hurts, my back hurts but God damn a modern hardtail with sensible Maxxis tyres and Horizon flats is a bunch of fun.
It was supposed to be the 2000AUD back up bike but the frame is too capable to have shit bits on it.
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The fork needs to be lowered 20mm but I'm so lazy I'm leaving it until the first service.

Why did I buy Continental and Pirelli tires? MAXXIS FTMFW!

It makes sense, you are "hardtailhack", so why would a sick hardtail be your backup?

Did you get the fancy new hub yet?

 

[toodles]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ext-vaia-a-long-travel-inverted-dual-crown-fork.html

Hell yes I don't care if it works or not, inverted DH forks for all the 2002 nostalgia

 

[HardtailHack]

It makes sense, you are "hardtailhack", so why would a sick hardtail be your backup?

Did you get the fancy new hub yet?

Feet problems and old age made a dual suspension bike feel the sensible middle age thing to do.
It had been 14yrs between dual suspension bikes so it was time to test the waters again.
Luckily I got a shit one so going back to a hardtail was even more rewarding.

XT cranks make the hardtail a bit smoother over the Saints.

Fancy hub may be here next week, got spare pawls and a drive ring.

 

[HardtailHack]

I half buy English stuff just to rag on it, but hey, every now and then they knock out a winner, this is that time.

I have tried loads of grips, Revs, Ergons, lots of ODIs. I wanted something with a decent relief for the thumb/thumb pad. Not sure if doing mechanic stuff makes that bigger than normal but I find my hand sit awkwardly regardless of bar sweep.

Basically wanted the opposite of a Death grip.

The expensive alloy bodied one like the pink one is shit as it seems to be larger than 7/8" ID, maybe they rounded up to 23mm coz Metric.
But the cheaper plastic body Expert ones fit fairly neatly.

Other fav grips would be the Supracush or Dreadlocks but it's no good in the wet.

 

[Gary]

no good in the wet

an ENGLISH product you say?
A land well known for it's all year round dry weather conditions

I've always wondered how a moulded grip even works when you're mountain biking and your grip position is dynamic. ie. you don't hold the grip in exactly the same position all the time as you're constantly moving around the bike and ride it both seated to standing. Maybe you can explain this?

These kinda grips always remind me of those awful hard plastic grips from the 70s commonly seen on traditional adult bikes and the terrible kids bikes we had

 

[HardtailHack]

an ENGLISH product you say?
A land well known for it's all year round dry weather conditions

I've always wondered how a moulded grip even works when you're mountain biking and your grip position is dynamic. ie. you don't hold the grip in exactly the same position all the time as you're constantly moving around the bike and ride it both seated to standing. Maybe you can explain this?

These kinda grips always remind me of those awful hard plastic grips from the 70s commonly seen on traditional adult bikes and the terrible kids bikes we had

My lack of Englishes skills showing up again.
I meant the ODI Dread Lock lacked grip in the wet, it was otherwise a nice grip(for me).

I didn't go crazy with the moulding on my TMR grips but they feel great and I don't feel that I have to hold on quite as tight over traditional grips. I've done a decent shuttle day in the wet and these were properly grippy for a stupid colour grip. And if the pattern wears down you just put the lattice stuff on, drop 'em in hot water and give 'em a squeeze.

I was 50/50 on if they'd be any good but I can't stand the Supracush grips on my hardtail and they were my previous fav grip.
Might get more TMR Designs grips just in case they go bust.

Haha the plastic grips were wild, I remember a friend having some blue ones in the 80's but they had a big smooth end on them.
Was a blue and yellow BMX but I can't remember what it was.

EDIT- Ordered two more sets of purple ones coz they are the cheapest.

 

[slimshady]

These kinda grips always remind me of those awful hard plastic grips from the 70s commonly seen on traditional adult bikes and the terrible kids bikes we had

70s? Those (and the ones with the mushroom ends @HardtailHack talks about) were standard issue on BMX bikes for the best part of the 90s down here!

 

[Gary]

70s? Those (and the ones with the mushroom ends @HardtailHack talks about) were standard issue on BMX bikes for the best part of the 90s down here!

Bro. I'm old enough to remember riding bikes in the part of the 70s BEFORE BMX was a thing.

 

[Gary]

blue and yellow BMX

Raleigh tuff burner? Blue frame/Yellow Skyways?

 

[Gary]

I didn't go crazy with the moulding on my TMR grips but they feel great and I don't feel that I have to hold on quite as tight over traditional grips. I've done a decent shuttle day in the wet and these were properly grippy for a stupid colour grip. And if the pattern wears down you just put the lattice stuff on, drop 'em in hot water and give 'em a squeeze.

This with or without gloves?

 

[slimshady]

Bro. I'm old enough to remember riding bikes in the part of the 70s BEFORE BMX was a thing.

Yeah, I meant they spilled their horridness into the late 90s.

 

[jonKranked]

Bro. I'm old enough to remember riding bikes in the part of the 70s BEFORE BMX was a thing.

The 1870s

 

[HardtailHack]

This with or without gloves?

With gloves.
Preferably with the 661 gloves that @jonKranked put me on to, no writing on the palms makes them super grippy in the wet.
They are so cheap and are cooler than TLD Airs.

 

[Gary]

Not as cheap or cool as NoGloves™

 

[jrewing]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ext-vaia-a-long-travel-inverted-dual-crown-fork.html

Hell yes I don't care if it works or not, inverted DH forks for all the 2002 nostalgia

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Tell em the price son

 

[jrewing]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ext-vaia-a-long-travel-inverted-dual-crown-fork.html

Hell yes I don't care if it works or not, inverted DH forks for all the 2002 nostalgia

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Should be whats wrong with that shit kit. Dharco have a lot to answer for…seeing grown middle aged adults in that gear.

 

[dump]

Should be whats wrong with that shit kit. Dharco have a lot to answer for…seeing grown middle aged adults in that gear.

Have you seen what middle aged men wear generally?

 

[Gary]

Needs examples