for long XC rides lighter bikes sure are nice.I don’t think I’ll ever have a MTB under 30 pounds.
Me too. No coil but at 30.5lbs for a 160/150 bike that only reguires a tire change to be really slammed through rocky DH trails.I guess I'm doing it wrong then, since I've been able to drop 3-4 lbs from back in the 2000s due to the frame, cranks, rims, bars, tubeless and 1x. With a coil, it hits just at 30.
You don't notice as much if you pack your bag full with beer. Feels amazing when it starts to get lighter with each pit stop.for long XC rides lighter bikes sure are nice.
Downcountry Pro Tip® by CanadmosYou don't notice as much if you pack your bag full with beer. Feels amazing when it starts to get lighter with each pit stop.
What do you regard as long?for long XC rides lighter bikes sure are nice.
are we talking time/distance or pinkbike feet?What do you regard as long?
i've never weighed a part or a bike and i likely never will. i just don't care enough..i don't weight my bikes.
in all fainess, i don't even have the slightest clue what any of my geometry measurements are, how many clicks in or out my suspension knobs are, or even my exact tire pressure. i have many bikes and they are all very different. i just ride them and couldn't care less...I'm proud of you guys. Is boasting about not weighing your bike the new boasting about the weight of your bike? Tune in at 11, or don't. Either way.
The lightest bike I've ever owned is my current "toodles definition XC bike" carbon Smuggler, which is a teeny bit under 30lbs. It's actually pretty capable on steep stuff and hitting jumps and stuff, but the compromise is in the tyres so you can't just barrel it into sections full of pointy rocks like a more heavily built bike. It still handles pretty well and the lighter tyres roll super fast.I don’t think I’ll ever have a MTB under 30 pounds.
Or at 30 pounds, for that matter.
for long XC rides lighter bikes sure are nice.
It's not just long rides where its nice - basically anytime the trail is flatter or boring or even just more swoopy and flowy rather than smashing through gnarly stuff or straight down. If you don't live where those trails exist, then there's no point - but now and then I'll just load up and go do a 30 - 50km trail ride. Once or twice a year I'll do a 80-100km marathon event to break things up - I'm not XC fit so its definitely a participation thing rather than a competitive event (I can high recommend doing at least one 24hour race with your buddies on a beer-per-lap).What do you regard as long?
I don't tend to get bored riding. I have done 24 hour and 50 mile races more than once, goal be to endure, have fun, and finish rather than win, and still like random 40-50 mile rides with elevation. Weight ain't anything I have ever paid primary attention to.The lightest bike I've ever owned is my current "toodles definition XC bike" carbon Smuggler, which is a teeny bit under 30lbs. It's actually pretty capable on steep stuff and hitting jumps and stuff, but the compromise is in the tyres so you can't just barrel it into sections full of pointy rocks like a more heavily built bike. It still handles pretty well and the lighter tyres roll super fast.
It's not just long rides where its nice - basically anytime the trail is flatter or boring or even just more swoopy and flowy rather than smashing through gnarly stuff or straight down. If you don't live where those trails exist, then there's no point - but now and then I'll just load up and go do a 30 - 50km trail ride. Once or twice a year I'll do a 80-100km marathon event to break things up - I'm not XC fit so its definitely a participation thing rather than a competitive event (I can high recommend doing at least one 24hour race with your buddies on a beer-per-lap).
Before I bought the Smuggler, I used my Patrol for the same kind of rides. It handled them no worries, but big tyres and an excess of travel makes those trails less fun and its harder to get rowdy on flat sections unless you've got the legs to get the bike moving fast. The lighter build is definitely the key to making boring sections fun.
I don't think the weight is necessarily the biggest benefit of the build I described, but a welcome side-effect of a spec I chose for other reasons. The EXO casing Minion DHF and SS combo is there because they're good fun tyres and I don't need anything burlier 99% of the time. The fact they're significantly lighter than a Supergravity Magic Mary is just a nice bonus.I don't tend to get bored riding. I have done 24 hour and 50 mile races more than once, goal be to endure, have fun, and finish rather than win, and still like random 40-50 mile rides with elevation. Weight ain't anything I have ever paid primary attention to.
The lightest bike I've ever owned is my current "toodles definition XC bike" carbon Smuggler, which is a teeny bit under 30lbs. It's actually pretty capable on steep stuff and hitting jumps and stuff, but the compromise is in the tyres so you can't just barrel it into sections full of pointy rocks like a more heavily built bike. It still handles pretty well and the lighter tyres roll super fast.
It's not just long rides where its nice - basically anytime the trail is flatter or boring or even just more swoopy and flowy rather than smashing through gnarly stuff or straight down. If you don't live where those trails exist, then there's no point - but now and then I'll just load up and go do a 30 - 50km trail ride. Once or twice a year I'll do a 80-100km marathon event to break things up - I'm not XC fit so its definitely a participation thing rather than a competitive event (I can high recommend doing at least one 24hour race with your buddies on a beer-per-lap).
Before I bought the Smuggler, I used my Patrol for the same kind of rides. It handled them no worries, but big tyres and an excess of travel makes those trails less fun and its harder to get rowdy on flat sections unless you've got the legs to get the bike moving fast. The lighter build is definitely the key to making boring sections fun.
selling bike parts on ebay obviouslyi wonder what he’s up to now
A bike journalist advocating upgrading the bike you already own as opposed to just getting a new bike is definitely what's right with the industry:
nsmb.com/articles/buy-bike-you-already-own-spring-service-story/
I remember him showing up to Parkfield race up here for Cal Poly Pomona. I pulled a 360 off the small finish jump. I think Lancaster won that race by 2-3 seconds buy Sanjay was for sure a skilled rider.
I'd totally campaign for him if he promises to knock a few teeth off Waki's mouth!Casting Call: Apply Now for the 2020 Pinkbike Academy - Pro Contract & $25K Grand Prize - Pinkbike
We are choosing 10 riders from around the world to travel to BC this summer to battle it out against each other in a series of riding-related challenges.www.pinkbike.com
This is pretty cool. Even if you don't win it, it sounds like itd be a wild experience and a somewhat free vacation?
Someone fill out a form for @jackalope
Blatant discrimination!dammit. just read the description. it included words like "fitness," and "under 39"...pretty sure that eliminates both @jackalope and me
Not the best timing to travel the world.Casting Call: Apply Now for the 2020 Pinkbike Academy - Pro Contract & $25K Grand Prize - Pinkbike
We are choosing 10 riders from around the world to travel to BC this summer to battle it out against each other in a series of riding-related challenges.www.pinkbike.com
This is pretty cool. Even if you don't win it, it sounds like itd be a wild experience and a somewhat free vacation?
Someone fill out a form for @jackalope