This is what's right with The Industry®
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That ring isn't meant to be disassembled, it's effectively a one piece ring. Those bolts are there to join two dissimilar materials.Shimano cranks 10 years ago were great.
Not anymore IMO
Seen chainring threads go and spiders break on the last gen and current ones.
Both of which simply couldn't have happened on the old 4 bolt tabbed spider male/female chainring bolt designs.
and as for the new XT and SLX splined DM chainrings with 8 bolts joining the ring to the DM spider.
WTAF?
Why the heck did Shimano take the only stupid cue from OneUp and made a one-piece, direct mount chainring into two separate pieces? I mean, once SRAM and Race Face opened that venue, all they had to do was introduce their own chainring/crank interface spline to make them incompatible with every other brand and call the day off.
But they chose to create a more flimsy interface instead, adding weight and complexity to a component already sorted out by many other brands.
But they chose to create a more flimsy interface instead, adding weight and complexity to a component already sorted out by many other brands.
Probably because SRAM and Raceface patented their interfaces and would have loved to sue anyone else for using it.
Bike companies don't exist to make you bike parts, they are there to make money.
The Sram interface is open for use without asking for permission. Look at the Blackspire crankset. It's also the best system because it's less prone to loosening and creaking than all the lockring systems. I don't know why everyone doesn't use it.
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That's why I literally wrote "all they had to do was introduce their own chainring/crank interface spline to make them incompatible with every other brand and call the day off."
There are several other brands using their own chainring/crank interface (FSA and Praxis come to mind).
The worst part is Blackspire is doing one piece, Shimano compatible direct mount chainrings, as a myriad of generic Chinese factories also do...The Sram interface is open for use without asking for permission. Look at the Blackspire crankset. It's also the best system because it's less prone to loosening and creaking than all the lockring systems. I don't know why everyone doesn't use it.
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What the industry has done right: no matter what standards/designs/manufacturing processes The Industry® puts out, internet strangers will be able to argue about it.
In bad yet good news, I broke one side of my XTR pedal(s) that I bought in '05. Must have been on twenty bikes since then. Bad news is that I broke it 1/4 of the way into the hardest DH day of my life. Good news is that they lasted 16 YEARS, have never been rebuilt, and are designed well enough that the other side still worked fine. And they are ubiquitous enough that my friends here have plenty of spares.
Those types of failures are the best, when something fails well after you got your money's worth. Can't be sad about it.
Yup, i think i got them new for $99.00.
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Also the interviewer snickering at every SH response. Still a good listen, because Sam Hill.At the very end he says he’ll definitely race another DH World Cup. Also has some opinions on the longer/slacker direction of bikes. Kind of a tough listen with the audio, his monotone and the crazy Australian birds in the background, but still worth it.SAM HILL - The Inside Line Podcast
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Can you summarize his take on longer bikes?At the very end he says he’ll definitely race another DH World Cup. Also has some opinions on the longer/slacker direction of bikes. Kind of a tough listen with the audio, his monotone and the crazy Australian birds in the background, but still worth it.SAM HILL - The Inside Line Podcast
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“Medium size men aren’t getting longer” or something to that effect. He seemed baffled as to why companies are making everything longer, taking the agility out of bikes.
WC tracks are evolving too. last time SC raced a WC was 2017. lot has changed in 4 years.
I'd say his riding style is better suited for enduro these days because both the DH tracks and bikes are evolving into plow-type riding. Instead of throwing the bike around obstacles, The Industry™ favors trailblazing and bulldozering the tracks.
I agree. At 6'1-2" I should be on XLs, but those are too long now so I'm at the edge of the seatpost range on larges.
because longer bikes make it easier to go fast, allowing total herbs to feel like WC champions?
see also: sandwich's DH bike
I'm about the same size and have been complaining about the same issue for a long time, and I have the same problem with seatpost range (even with a 210 dropper) on most larges. But personally I think larges should be bigger and that XL's should be made to fit the real giants out there. A person our size is closer to average than many think, and we should not need the biggest bike a company makes.
Average human height by country - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
So a large should probably cover 5'9-6' ish, meaning those of average height aren't tweeners.According to the above link, the average size of non Hispanic whites in the US of A, which should pretty much cover the sporty cycling population(?), is 5'10.Average human height by country - Wikipedia
Wait, why should the average height person be on a large? Shouldn't they need a medium?
You need a new naming standard
Or more frame sizes!You need a new naming standard
I get fitted for all my frames to ensure they are within .001" of ideal for all dimensions to ensure no loss in my performance.
Really I just want all bikes to be sized specifically for meeeeeeee.
Are you getting a new frame for your winter fat then?
I can agree with this. There is no clothing that I take size XL.
The higher end ones are one piece. I forget if they're still doing it, but the prior gen XTR chainrings that were mostly aluminum with stainless steel teeth last *forever* without being super heavy. So there's a benefit to using multiple pieces/materials.
Somebody wise talked about Dunning-Kruger effect here. Maybe his Royal Ridejesty SH overestimates the majority's riding abilities and underestimates his own in comparison to us mere plebs.
Do you have data from your fucking powermeter to post here to support your argument?
All of my aluminum rings on 1x last pretty much "forever", at least when they start getting droppy it's like 3-4 years down the road. Those XTR would have to literally last more than 5 years to make that complexity worth it IMO. I got 1.5 out of a 9000 XTR cassette a few years ago before it was slipping bad on a bike that was one of 4 rotated for use (with the chain changed out). I did the math and X01 saves me money over XTR, XT and SLX, given how long the latter 3 last.
I haven't tried every ring and interface, but can say RF Cinch aluminum rings do not last very long, and I'm neither a high miles guy nor do I ride in mud/wet. I think aluminum spider w/ steel teeth is a nice compromise to reduce waste and increase longevity.
Because those medium and large sized men are now in their late 30's/early 40's and have figured out that cramming themselves onto ergonomically retarded bikes like they did when they were in their early 20's trying to race ratty old DH bikes is very fucking stupid.
i can't believe i agree with you.
No changes to any frame dims needed. Just extra stem padding for my gunt.Are you getting a new frame for your winter fat then?