i thought it would have been obvious given that its only being offered by BME on their 3 highest tier XC bikes.Fair enough. Thanks for confirming but my ever helpful advice still stands whether you're clipped in or on flats, a lycra wearing XC rider, everyday commuter right through to those still too cool for lycra or skinny tyres older ex DH riders.
Yeah. I didn't actually bother looking.i thought it would have been obvious given that its only being offered by BME on their 3 highest tier XC bikes.
No, its not.80mm drop is actually tons if you're clipped in.wearing lycra.
uhm, ze germans did and doI'm also surprised more manufacturers haven't explored dropper seat tubes incorporated into frame designs.
One of the Earthed videos, I would like to say 5.OK, Imma gonna be that guy.
After many years of laughing at this meme, I just gotta ask were the fuck did the skinsuit meme image come from?
Who is the dude, context?
I feel I should know this, it feels like it is just a the periphery of my memory.
Same here. I find it funny every time I see it, but I can't help thinking I probably don't know the (actual) funniest part about it.OK, Imma gonna be that guy.
After many years of laughing at this meme, I just gotta ask were the fuck did the skinsuit meme image come from?
Who is the dude, context?
I feel I should know this, it feels like it is just a the periphery of my memory.
Except a lycra'd up gooch over loose fitting pants/shorts gives you well over 20mm extra crotch clearance.No, its not.
yeah. I'm well aware of those. Hence me saying "more" manufacturers.uhm, ze germans did and do
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If you keep feeding The Industry ™ this kind of nightmare material, we might have to call a hit on you.yeah. I'm well aware of those. Hence me saying "more" manufacturers.
Remember the days of bolt on seat towers? I'm also surprised no one ever tried designing one joined to the front triangle by some sort of linkage so the actual seat tube moved (as an alternative to a telescopic tube)
Are you still racing 90s NORBA fireroads?Except a lycra'd up gooch over loose fitting pants/shorts gives you well over 20mm extra crotch clearance.
And the fact riding clips means the rider doesn't need to preload the pedals anywhere near as much or squat anywhere near as low as a rider does with flats or require such a dynamic range of foot/ankle movement in order to perform the same maneuvers. Not to mention the lack of need for such body positioning at all to increase pedal grip.
Taking hopping or jumping as an example. If its possible for most technically skilled CX riders to bunnyhop 2ft with a full height saddle it stands to reason 80mm more crotch clearance will make that maneuver a piece if piss.
Steeper looser terrain is also massively more manageable with just an 80mm lower saddle.
So just because you feel you personally require more doesn't negate the fact for XC 80mm saddle drop is tons.
scotland, always on the forefront of everythingFWIW due to our wet climate and natural tracks 90s XC racing here was more technical than today's WC XCO. Infact sections of our old XC courses have been used in multiple EWS stages. Only those tracks were spruced up and decent drainage added for that .
I was out on a ride with our Tokyo Olympics XCO P17 pro last Sunday. Can confirm all you said up there. He was on his Fuel Ex gen5 blasting trails, jumping over all the stuff and very often didn't even drop his saddle. Very fast and skilled rider.Except a lycra'd up gooch over loose fitting pants/shorts gives you well over 20mm extra crotch clearance.
And the fact riding clips means the rider doesn't need to preload the pedals anywhere near as much or squat anywhere near as low as a rider does with flats or require such a dynamic range of foot/ankle movement in order to perform the same maneuvers. Not to mention the lack of need for such body positioning at all to increase pedal grip.
Taking hopping or jumping as an example. If its possible for most technically skilled CX riders to bunnyhop 2ft with a full height saddle it stands to reason 80mm more crotch clearance will make that maneuver a piece if piss.
Steeper looser terrain is also massively more manageable with just an 80mm lower saddle.
So just because you feel you personally require more doesn't negate the fact for XC 80mm saddle drop is tons.
Depends on your height. I see drop as a percentage of inseam. For my 34" legs, 80mm of drop doesn't change much. I use 125mm on my XC bike. Maybe I could live with 100 but 75 doesn't let me move around the bike much and doesn't get my CG very low. It's what I had on my first dropper and while better than nothing, doesn't provide the full advantage 125 does, even during a XC race.80mm drop is actually tons if you're clipped in.wearing lycra.
Same island, same monarch on post stamps, almost the same language.I'm not English.
I agree. We have very similar inseam measurement.Depends on your height. I see drop as a percentage of inseam. For my 34" legs, 80mm of drop doesn't change much. I use 125mm on my XC bike. Maybe I could live with 100 but 75 doesn't let me move around the bike much and doesn't get my CG very low.
how about this bad boy (powerpost):yeah. I'm well aware of those. Hence me saying "more" manufacturers.
Remember the days of bolt on seat towers? I'm also surprised no one I'm aware of ever tried designing a frame with one joined to the front triangle by some sort of linkage so the actual seat tube moved (as an alternative to a telescopic tube)
The RD is WAY TOO modern.how about this bad boy (powerpost):
haha, god DAMN, this bike tho:
I even own a skinsuit onsie - and I love it for long road rides. But don't tell anyoneI agree. We have very similar inseam measurement.
But like I said. Clips and lycra negates the need for as much drop. I'd assume you clip in but do you also race XC in lycra.
Shhhh.... I won't tell anyone if you don't.
I even own a skinsuit onsie - and I love it for long road rides. But don't tell anyone
Not only lycra, but usually a 1-piece skin suit! And I wear it not only for racing but every ride on my XC or trail bike and some rides on my enduro bike. Lighter, more comfortable, and more aero than my enduro duds. When you're this fast and good looking you can get away with almost anything!I agree. We have very similar inseam measurement.
But like I said. Clips and lycra negates the need for as much drop. I'd assume you clip in but do you also race XC in lycra.
Shhhh.... I won't tell anyone if you don't.
my god, thats a whole lotta ugly happening 1 place at same time.how about this bad boy (powerpost):
haha, god DAMN, this bike tho:
my god, thats a whole lotta ugly happening 1 place at same time.
that guy is *just* making brake calipers. the frame (actofive) is built by simon metzner - a proper overachiever one man show. beauty bikes, flying somewhat under the radar. article is somewhat ambiguously worded as to whom is responsible for what.
This guy just nonchalantly building his whole bike
Disagree. They are fragile trash.Reserve Fillmore valves.