Gary only has one speed and its MAXIMUMwooooooooooooooooooooosh
Its for fitment and testing out, not for railing rock gardens with an extra anchor brake deployed for maximum derpness.
Yuh huh. If you're retarded it totally doesjust pointing out that Gary rhymes with Jerry
The entire reason you are using shorter cranks is for the clearance. Thats what you are testing.wooooooooooooooooooooosh
Its for fitment and testing out, not for railing rock gardens with an extra anchor brake deployed for maximum derpness.
Yesthe 155mm setting gives you increased leverage / power, right?
we don't say that anymore...Yuh huh. If you're retarded it totally does
I thought it was for CoG (as I learned) and mechanics of spinning smaller circles (as I knew)The entire reason you are using shorter cranks is for the clearance. Thats what you are testing.
I appreciate that your alternative to testing this one time, over a few weeks, on one test rig for a small rental cost - is to take several years, on different set ups, buying a new crankset each time, before eventually finding what works for you.Nah. Having ridden long enough to have already tried every single option they offer I'm just not all that interested.
But honestly. Trying a super short mtb crank WITHOUT the improvement in pedal clearance is completely retarded
No it's not. Anyone can make the connection between a shorter crank and fewer pedal strikes, but the effect on pedaling and bike fit are way harder to predict unless you try it first. But sure, let's be dicks about someone giving people an opportunity to try before they buy.The entire reason you are using shorter cranks is for the clearance. Thats what you are testing.
It's @Gary...No it's not. Anyone can make the connection between a shorter crank and fewer pedal strikes, but the effect on pedaling and bike fit are way harder to predict unless you try it first. But sure, let's be dicks about someone giving people an opportunity to try before they buy.
Yeah. I completely agree. As of ten years ago anything over 170mm gives me knee pain on my roadbike. But hiring this crankset as a solution (alone) isn't actually likely to pinpoint that being the sole cause of your discomfort.there’s also hip and knee strain as a major factor for using these specific options.
I’ll accept that hiring a set of multi holed cranks as the sole factor to alleviate pain or fix positions isn’t going to work. Bike fit (especially on road bikes) is such a fickle twat of a thing to get right - best to get a proper fitter (who can own a set of these, plus 30 different bar, stem, saddle combos) to get you figured out.Yeah. I completely agree. As of ten years ago anything over 170mm gives me knee pain on my roadbike. But hiring this crankset as a solution (alone) isn't actually likely to pinpoint that being the sole cause of your discomfort.
Professional bike fitting "services" provide as much value as [pick your religious sect]....
Professional bike fitting services can still be a minefield as there's still tons of variance between methodology, theories and preconceptions of different fitters and the various fitting systems out there.
No, on that there's actual benefit. Usually small enough that it won't benefit the average rider in a tangible way, but sometimes it does. We had a guy come in for a fit due to knee pain, turns out he needed wedges in his shoes (or under his cleats maybe?) and that solved his pain issues.Professional bike fitting "services" provide as much value as [pick your religious sect].
"bikepackingdotcom"...will not clickBattle of the Cranks: A Real-World Crank Length Test
After riding with some shorter Appleman Bicycles cranks last fall, Miles was curious to take a deeper dive into a full crank length test...bikepacking.com
NewHardwoodFloorAndNowNewGraniteCountertop.com"bikepackingdotcom"...will not click
Sounds just like the young guy I heard about who was terminally ill, travelled to Lourdes drank some holy water and lived to be 100No, on that there's actual benefit. Usually small enough that it won't benefit the average rider in a tangible way, but sometimes it does. We had a guy come in for a fit due to knee pain, turns out he needed wedges in his shoes (or under his cleats maybe?) and that solved his pain issues.
Or that time you are a magic haggis and rode all the way to FranceSounds just like the young guy I heard about who was terminally ill travelled to Lourdes drank some holy water and lived to be 100
Not believing in nonsense which has caused missery and death worldwide since the dawn of time is somehow bad in your eyes?
We're in a universe sufficiently vast that none of us can understand it, we each construct our own model based on experience plus whatever's wired into us.Not believing in nonsense which has caused missery and death worldwide since the dawn of time is somehow bad in your eyes?
in what way, exactly?
we are in agreement on all of this.We're in a universe sufficiently vast that none of us can understand it, we each construct our own model based on experience plus whatever's wired into us.
I started out an atheist but eventually decided that to say that goddess(es) exist or do not exist is equally arrogant, so formally I'm an agnostic, although I believe that dieties are wicked unlikely.
All of the formal religious institutions that have existed or exist on the earth have been and are evil.
Possibly. but which belief has caused most human suffering?to say that goddess(es) exist or do not exist is equally arrogant
Point taken.Possibly. but which belief has caused most human suffering?
Personally I'd prefer to er on the side of GOOD on this one. If some apologist want to call that that arrogant so be it.
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Eh... No. You can create whatever explanation on your own, but for it to be valid it will have to stand the trial of what we have already learned about reality, and that has been systematically compiled into what we today call science.We're in a universe sufficiently vast that none of us can understand it, we each construct our own model based on experience plus whatever's wired into us
Our science is an approximate model of limited scope.Eh... No. You can create whatever explanation on your own, but for it to be valid it will have to stand the trial of what we have already learned about reality, and that has been systematically compiled into what we today call science.
We have confirmation of its major cornerstones even far away from what we call "home". Gravity, relativity and thermodynamics are the same here, on Proxima Centauri or any other place.Our science is an approximate model of limited scope.
Physics == the art of reverse engineering someone else's models.We have confirmation of its major cornerstones even far away from what we call "home". Gravity, relativity and thermodynamics are the same here, on Proxima Centauri or any other place.
Which has a similar percentage of pain/suffering as any religion tbh?I believe in Gravity.