This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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https://www.pinkbike.com/news/absoluteblack-claim-to-have-created-the-worlds-fastest-and-most-durable-chain-lube.html
$150 for a bottle of lube. Unless it comes with some higly renowned female porn star attached to it, I'd call it BS.
$150 for a bottle of lube. Unless it comes with some higly renowned female porn star attached to it, I'd call it BS.
Is it a coincidence that such a high priced item has a logo that is almost identical to Bugatti's?
Those guys are full of bullshit. I get blasted all day with adds about how their chainrings will make me faster, scientifically proven, etc. So I ask them what scientific proof they have that their results are valid, they say "well it provides 'up to' this and that % improvement in this and that". I say that "up to" is a red flag, what are the significance of the results, what quantitative methods have been used to determine their validity? They send me to their website which basically just says the same exact thing. No validation of the results. Nothing to indicate that their "up to" numbers are more than outliers or noise. Their claims are grandiose. If you got a 7% increase, you'd obviously smash every TDF course record ever. They are actually claiming some kind of turbo-charging effect, that you don't lose performance with altitude with these things...lol.
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well the half ounce bottle is $15.
He's kind of the road-bike-bottom-bracket version of Craig talking about RS and Fox suspension...
I used to work in pharma, same deal. Bit different than the bike industry.
teensy bit.
I have to deal with pharma marketing now. I've worked with some other industries that involve regulated marketing, but pharma by far takes the cake.
Oh yea. Teams of attorneys that review marketing materials long before sales reps even see them and start training on them. Then they spend weeks drilling it into your head military-style to make sure you say exactly what you're supposed to. Legit.
Then on the other hand we have bike industry marketing (which, ironically now is part of my profession) and it's like a free-for-all. Companies can say whatever they want because people just believe it. Dumbfounding.
I remember when I was first shopping for oval chainrings, like in 2015 or something. At the time the only two options were Absolute bLack (of substance), and Wolftooth. The sheer level of marketeering wankery spewed by AbsLack even back then was astonishing. Wolftooth in contrast was just like: here's some oval chainrings, what size do you want? I think both companies were roughly the same size back then.
Currently, AB seems to only sell the same limited selection of oval chainrings, and this overpriced marketing juice.
Wolftooth has a much bigger selection, and seems to be a much bigger company these days, sometimes substance wins out over style.
And yet, when you buy a bike, you can research their price and get what works for you the best.
Not exactly the same experience when you need medical care...
Are all modern gloves basically throwaways after one ride? I've just bought and returned gloves from Dakine and TLD that both came apart at the stitching within a few rides (one ride for the TLDs). I get that modern, thinner gloves are gonna be less durable in a crash, but these things came unstitched without a crash. And its not like they're cheap these days. My old TLD Airs are going strong after ages, but the new version sucks. Trying some Fasthouse ones now.
Because when consumers are allowed a voice on that subject the first ones that speak up want essential oils instead of vaccines
Some of us sweat.
oh, i sweat...i live somewhere sweatier than you. and utility...meh.
I agree but would like to add that gloves are cool in the rain too.
I actually reckon its the cooler days here where you can run no gloves, not the other way around. It gets bloody hot and sweaty even in winter here.
Maybe quit buying girly gloves more suited to roadys.... buy some motorcycle gloves
That's been my recent experience. I used to wear Fox, but local LBSs started stocking only roadie gloves. I have had some luck buying moto gloves instead.
Check out Handup gloves. Granted I have only one pair, but they seem decent.
handupgloves.com
I still use some older fox gloves that I have stockpiled from when I worked there. They do seem better than a lot of newer paper thin gloves.
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I still use some older fox gloves that I have stockpiled from when I worked there. They do seem better than a lot of newer paper thin gloves.
Just go and buy some Fox Dirtpaws at a moto shop. The TLD stuff is basicaly useless while out there in the trails. I ripped the whole palm section of one of them (TLD GP) just by trying to move a log that had fallen over a berm. And it was the second time I wore them. Overpriced POS. I aint' touching them with a stick again.
O'neal and Dainese stuff seems to be decently done too. Some moto riding friends wear those, and they tend to crash a lot
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O'neal and Dainese stuff seems to be decently done too. Some moto riding friends wear those, and they tend to crash a lot
.Check out Handup gloves. Granted I have only one pair, but they seem decent.
HANDUP | Mountain Bike Gloves, Golf Gloves & Ski Gloves
Home of the original bold, Minimalist Mountain bike gloves, Golf Gloves, Skiing Gloves, and Snowboarding Gloves with affordable Outdoor Apparel to match!
I still use some older fox gloves that I have stockpiled from when I worked there. They do seem better than a lot of newer paper thin gloves.
I have 2 pairs of these and a few pairs of 100% Hand Up hold up a little better. But these 2 are good brands for minimalist gloves. All the bigger name brands tend to come un-stitched.
i have 661 rajis that are years old and are just starting to show their age. and when i say years, i'm talking at least probably 7 or 8? but to be fair i got 3 pairs at the time (i think they were on clearance for $10) and rotate through them.
The fucking AB adds are getting out of hand. They were ridiculous before, but jesus.
I went back to glass and using my pedals. Then I put on a glove to insulate the bottle.
BRB pitching an on-trail beer transportation systems roundup.
We've got:
- 12oz bottles
- large format bottles
- 12oz cans
- 16oz cans
- larger crowler style cans
- trailer with a keg in it
- Breakability
- Weight per volume of beer
- Safety
- Ease of transport
- Availability of beer options
- Insulation
Am I missing anything?
