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Jm_

Jm_

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xy9ine said:
fork abomination aside, aggressively tilted down saddles need to fuck right off.





also: do all of chris porter's disciples have especially precious taints?
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Those are also great with their falling-rate suspension and a coil.
 
xy9ine

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
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Jm_ said:
Those are also great with their falling-rate suspension and a coil.
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i spent some time on a murmur. great handling bike, and the suspension was "ok" - with an air can stuffed full of spacers. running a coil on one doesn't *seem* ideal. tho evidently there's people out there running them happily so... shrug?
 
Jm_

Jm_

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xy9ine said:
i spent some time on a murmur. great handling bike, and the suspension was "ok" - with an air can stuffed full of spacers. running a coil on one doesn't *seem* ideal. tho evidently there's people out there running them happily so... shrug?
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GG shows how a SP solid triangle bike should be orientated to have progressiveness. If the angle of the main pivot and swingarm shock mount pass the vertical plane, relative to the shock frame mount, it becomes falling rate. After that point, the wheel moves more and more for each mm of shock travel. So you either see the rear triangle as with GG where the rear mount is pushed way back, or the shock mounted way far down on the downtube like pointing towards the ground at a 45 degree angle, except that's shit for structural efficiency and requires a massively overbuilt downtube.
 
jonKranked

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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Jm_ said:
Auto industry is always such a dipshit when it comes to bikes and racks. They'll sell you some hitch rack from 1990 where your bikes swing back and forth or a roof-rack on a lifted jeep, lol. So fucking dumb.
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they really are out of touch. mtb'ers eat tacos and burritos, not hot dogs
 
slimshady

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
Dec 20, 2007
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Jm_ said:
Auto industry is always such a dipshit when it comes to bikes and racks. They'll sell you some hitch rack from 1990 where your bikes swing back and forth or a roof-rack on a lifted jeep, lol. So fucking dumb.
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They seem to do it better across the pond:

Bikes on Board: Transporting Bicycles is a Breeze with Opel FlexFix | Media OPEL International

Quick, space-saving, safe: Carrier system integrated in bumper always ready for use FlexFix makes it possible: Travel with family, lots of luggage and up to four bicycles From small to large: Opel bike carrier available for ADAM, Corsa, Mokka X and Zafira Rüsselsheim. The bags are...
int-media.opel.com int-media.opel.com

newatlas.com

Opel Mokka SUV integrates bike rack into the bumper

In a world where every automaker has or wants to have at least one crossover or SUV, sometimes they have to do something a little extra to set their model apart from the pack. Bentley's EXP 9 F does it with its signature interior; Lamborghini's Urus concept does it with its supercar styling and hot…
newatlas.com newatlas.com

 
Jm_

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
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slimshady said:
They seem to do it better across the pond:

Bikes on Board: Transporting Bicycles is a Breeze with Opel FlexFix | Media OPEL International

Quick, space-saving, safe: Carrier system integrated in bumper always ready for use FlexFix makes it possible: Travel with family, lots of luggage and up to four bicycles From small to large: Opel bike carrier available for ADAM, Corsa, Mokka X and Zafira Rüsselsheim. The bags are...
int-media.opel.com int-media.opel.com

newatlas.com

Opel Mokka SUV integrates bike rack into the bumper

In a world where every automaker has or wants to have at least one crossover or SUV, sometimes they have to do something a little extra to set their model apart from the pack. Bentley's EXP 9 F does it with its signature interior; Lamborghini's Urus concept does it with its supercar styling and hot…
newatlas.com newatlas.com

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In general yes, but the attachments are just bizarre in Yurp too, not just that crazy J-shaped thing that comes from under the bumper, but they use mounts that go through the bumper on some BMWs, as in one on each side about halfway up the rear of the car, etc. They seem to be a lot less interchangeable and you have a lot less rack choices, although you are more certain that the OEM or intended rack will work fine with your vehicle.
 
mykel

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
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sethimus said:
www.pinkbike.com

Mopar Unveils a Concept Jeep for 'Serious Mountain Bikers' - Pinkbike

Does your shuttle rig have an electric hot-dog roller grill?
www.pinkbike.com www.pinkbike.com
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How the F are you supposed to load and unload this by your lonesome?
Even with help it would be a shitshow. :rofl:

Now lets talk about auxiliary fuel tanks, cause your gonna need them trying to push that through the atmosphere. Bikes on top absolutely kills gas mileage. I got a pair of perfectly good Thule Sidearm roof-rack mounts that have cost multiple times their purchase cost in added fuel expenditures.

Single with single add-on One-up hitch mount FTW.
 
canadmos

canadmos

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mykel said:
How the F are you supposed to load and unload this by your lonesome?
Even with help it would be a shitshow. :rofl:

Now lets talk about auxiliary fuel tanks, cause your gonna need them trying to push that through the atmosphere. Bikes on top absolutely kills gas mileage. I got a pair of perfectly good Thule Sidearm roof-rack mounts that have cost multiple times their purchase cost in added fuel expenditures.

Single with single add=on One-up hitch mount FTW.
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It brings back memories of watching one of @Dirtrider 's buddies, who if I remember correctly was shorter than I (at 5'7), load his bike up on a roof rack on top of a Tahoe. I dunno how he did it without breaking a leg or sending a pedal through the window. :rofl:

But alas, this Jeep has an entire drawer dedicated to a ladder for loading your bike!

As if a Gladiator wasn't already a useless "pickup".... :rofl::rofl:
 
mykel

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
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canadmos said:
It brings back memories of watching one of @Dirtrider 's buddies, who if I remember correctly was shorter than I (at 5'7), load his bike up on a roof rack on top of a Tahoe. I dunno how he did it without breaking a leg or sending a pedal through the window. :rofl:

But alas, this Jeep has an entire drawer dedicated to a ladder for loading your bike!

As if a Gladiator wasn't already a useless "pickup".... :rofl::rofl:
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Oh, I know it's got a ladder.
Ever tried climbing up or down a ladder with a bike without fucking something up?
Did it once, and only once and that was a BMX onto a motorhome.
Even with a helper, I envision scraped and dented bodywork at a minimum.

Did they even once talk to an actual mountain biker that roadtrips?
 
jstuhlman

jstuhlman

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i've been doing my nomad on top of our highlander since march when i totaled my car and we haven't gotten another. it's a pain, but now that i've gotten the system down it's not too bad. hitch would obviously be superior, but we already had the crossbars for our cargo box, and the yakima roof racks from my car fit.
 
sethimus

sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
5,346
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not in Whistler anymore :/
mykel said:
Oh, I know it's got a ladder.
Ever tried climbing up or down a ladder with a bike without fucking something up?
Did it once, and only once and that was a BMX onto a motorhome.
Even with a helper, I envision scraped and dented bodywork at a minimum.

Did they even once talk to an actual mountain biker that roadtrips?
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in europe there are backpacks with a bike mount for bike climbing, just get creative!
 
mykel

mykel

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sethimus said:
in europe there are backpacks with a bike mount for bike climbing, just get creative!
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Ok, we have pretty much nailed down the system for loading our foot-cycle onto our GP vee-hikle.

Pulls out fancy ladder and attaches it ready for use.
Straps bike onto backpack
Puts on specialized bike carrying backpack.
Dons climbing shoes and chalk-bag.
Checks cams and nuts are secure and in reach
Scales humongous SUV.
Removes bike from transportation fixture.
Secures bike to rack.
Scales back down to terra-firma.
Stowes climbing shoes, chalk bag and climbing aids.
Removes bike backpack and stowes it away.
Puts fancy ladder back into the bumper.
Grabs beer and turns around for a little bench racing.
Guys?... Umm Guys?... Where is everybody?
Notices it is almost dark and the parking lot is empty...
 
mykel

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
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sethimus said:
in europe there are backpacks with a bike mount for bike climbing, just get creative!
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Never knew about the pack, but it does make sense for those Hike-a-bike accents the europeans seem to be fond of. Kinda cool, and on hind-sight, very surprised I have not heard of them before.
 
sethimus

sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
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not in Whistler anymore :/
mykel said:
Never knew about the pack, but it does make sense for those Hike-a-bike accents the europeans seem to be fond of. Kinda cool, and on hind-sight, very surprised I have not heard of them before.
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there are several systems:

outentic.com

OUTENTIC

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peak-rider.com

Peak-Rider - Mountainbike - Hiking - Next Level

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pushcomponents.com

PUSH components

HOOKABIKE dein Bike-Tragesystem. Mit HOOKABIKE kannst du dein Bike auch über lange Strecken angenehm und sicher tragen.
pushcomponents.com pushcomponents.com
 
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