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Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,064
22,091
Sleazattle
We'll just sit this tangent out, give you as much space as you need.

Just know....I'm here if you need me while you work this through....


And if it helps....I once smoked weed, and didn't watch friday or something related to pink floyd

Don't feel insulted, I bet you really pull off short shorts and fuzzy go-go boots.
 

jstuhlman

bagpipe wanker
Dec 3, 2009
17,365
14,203
Cackalacka du Nord
i'll take the fugazi '90s for 500, alex. except that mine was slightly more new york hardcore crossing over into metal oriented. 90s were also interesting in that i moved from skating to skiing (briefly) to mtb over the course of the decade. also finished high school, finished college, finished grad school part 1, and got married. sheesh.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,064
22,091
Sleazattle
*limey ginger mullet* just entered my vocabulary



also googling "DHL careers surf rescue"
Limey? Clearly 'Strayans. First of all the ginger needs sunglasses, that doesn't happen in England. Secondly the unintelligible nasally twang vs an intelligible mumbly lope.
 

djjohnr

Turbo Monkey
Apr 21, 2002
3,116
1,803
Northern California
I used to have this album hanging on the wall. Never listened to it, I hated country, I just loved the cracked out look on the dudes face. Years later I've grown to appreciate old school country in small doses.

 

ianjenn

Turbo Monkey
Sep 12, 2006
3,003
708
SLO
I used to have this album hanging on the wall. Never listened to it, I hated country, I just loved the cracked out look on the dudes face. Years later I've grown to appreciate old school country in small doses.

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Both where Bad Ass. Cash's book is pretty good...
 

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,953
27,137
media blackout
If the patent violation is as described in the article, this is one of the lamer bike patents and an even lamer move by Knolly.

my guess is that intense will probably challenge the validity of the patent.

trying to think of other bikes in this configuration that predate the patent submission. zumbi f44 is first that comes to mind.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,213
10,745
AK
my guess is that intense will probably challenge the validity of the patent.

trying to think of other bikes in this configuration that predate the patent submission. zumbi f44 is first that comes to mind.
Yeah, anyone with time on their hands can probably pull up dozens of examples of bikes with straight seat tubes like that.
 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
5,501
4,223
sw ontario canada
What are we missing?
Patent office takes 5 years to validate something that seems to have a lot of prior art?
Hope there is more to it, as I really don't want to see Knolly join the ranks of Specialized.
:mad:
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,213
10,745
AK
*checks to see if owns any bikes where the seat tube intersects the downtube in front of the BB*

Awe fuck
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
8,493
5,162
What are we missing?
Patent office takes 5 years to validate something that seems to have a lot of prior art?
Hope there is more to it, as I really don't want to see Knolly join the ranks of Specialized.
:mad:
BMW comes to mind
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,213
10,745
AK
How that patent wasn't Sectioned 103'd is beyond me...
Just going through the first few pages of the "old and obscure bikes" thread:













I can't imagine this going well for Knolly. He basically made up a bullshit patent to get around the Specialized Horst Link, so maybe this is not really beneath him...
 
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xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
2,940
353
vancouver eastside
noel seems like a good guy, but i cannot for the life of me grasp the appeal of the bikes. the designs are ugly AF; adding extra linkage & a funky seat tube angle for no tangible benefit (apart from originally skirting the horst patent, which is now moot). i just can't comprehend the fanboism.

oh, PDC also did funky seattube shit like this (this was my frame; at least it wasn't meant to be pedalled up hills):

 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,953
27,137
media blackout
Just going through the first few pages of the "old and obscure bikes" thread:











I can't imagine this going well for Knolly. He basically made up a bullshit patent to get around the Specialized Horst Link, so maybe this is not really beneath him...
This patent doesn't have anything to do with suspension linkage.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,213
10,745
AK
I was only showing horst-link bike variations secondarily, the lawsuit against intense seems to be only relative to their seatpost angle/location, which all of these bikes would appear to violate, including my own pivot and I'm sure hundreds more. Knolly is claiming using their seatpost angle was to "get it out of the way" of the suspension and allow for full insertion of a seatpost...but great, it's simply a common way that many bikes have and continue to be built, I have a hard time believing this is "novel". And then Knolly pulls the "we're just a small Canadian company" and "big bad Intense in California". I don't ever see Intense bikes anymore and I'm pretty sure they aren't some massive company.
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
8,493
5,162
It's like an Ellsworth had sex with a lawwill suspension layout and then ran into a bridge overpass while still drunk.
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
8,445
7,008
Yakistan
Where are the bike companies (besides like Cannondale, Salsa, Giant...) that are putting out large quantities of 1-2k NICE bikes for people to get into the sport? Why isn't that the goal/focus of the industry?

What the fuck, prove me wrong.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
88,953
27,137
media blackout
Where are the bike companies (besides like Cannondale, Salsa, Giant...) that are putting out large quantities of 1-2k NICE bikes for people to get into the sport? Why isn't that the goal/focus of the industry?

What the fuck, prove me wrong.
there's enough of them out there, the problem, IMO, is that now with all these extra people that are riding, the amount of trails/trail mileage isn't increasing at the same pace.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
11,592
2,028
Seattle
Where are the bike companies (besides like Cannondale, Salsa, Giant...) that are putting out large quantities of 1-2k NICE bikes for people to get into the sport? Why isn't that the goal/focus of the industry?

What the fuck, prove me wrong.
The new Canyon Stoic 4 looks pretty solid for $1800.
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
17,293
14,779
Where are the bike companies (besides like Cannondale, Salsa, Giant...) that are putting out large quantities of 1-2k NICE bikes for people to get into the sport? Why isn't that the goal/focus of the industry?

What the fuck, prove me wrong.
I think those Caliber Bossnut things have been very popular in socialist europe for about £1000.