This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Don't read too deep into it haha. The boys were just saying if a company wants to claim that a wheel size or electronic suspension or whatever is X% better empirically, how many of them would be willing to wager half that difference as a time penalty to level the field.
There was a bit of beer involved prior to this point, and one of the crew has recently made the jump to a 29er race bike which started the whole discussion.
Post ride Beer & Bench Racing is one of the few things right with the industry.
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do you have men‘s health issues “down there“?
LOL No, yes, maybe. You may be thinking of "Men's Health". But no worries... I mean, I have been mtb'ing for over 25 years. Issues down there will happen...
It was actually in referral to the fact that BIKE Magazine is out of business, and for the subscribers, they compensated us with Men's Journal until the original BIKE subscription runs out.
This issue has Mathew McConaughey. So at least The Wife is stoked...
Haha, sweet trade! Mountain bikes are accessories for men like like a lap dog is for.....LOL No, yes, maybe. You may be thinking of "Men's Health". But no worries... I mean, I have been mtb'ing for over 25 years. Issues down there will happen...
It was actually in referral to the fact that BIKE Magazine is out of business, and for the subscribers, they compensated us with Men's Journal until the original BIKE subscription runs out.
This issue has Mathew McConaughey. So at least The Wife is stoked...
So instead of moving to a bike with a sensible sized tire you can make your CX bike more comfortable.
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20 years back Giant's mid range road bike the OCR came with an adjustable quill stem in a similar vein. It wasn't exactly high end so anyone even vaguely into bikes would probably swap it out for a normal stem fairly quickly. Because of its ease of adjustability finding your most comfortable/efficient position was pretty simple and from that choosing a normal length/rise stem to match that position really easy.
Folk pay tons for a "bike fit" these days. Often needlessly.
The redshift stem is a suspension stem, not an angle adjust unit. Still awful, but not quite in the vein you’re suggesting
Mid 00s trek hybrids had the same adjustable quill stem. The toothed wedge on the bottom.
I had an old Funn stem that looked like it was cast, that thing was like a damn torsion spring.
Another one, ahhhh!
Maybe I just suck but what's the deal with gear ranges??
I spend 99% of my time in the 4 larger cogs, because well...I'm mountain biking so I have to climb up trails (unless I'm descending and leave the chain in the middle of the cassette somewhere). You'd think they'd design the cassettes to have smaller gaps in the larger cogs to give you more options for climbing as you get tired, or how steep and technical the climbs are.
I spend 99% of my time in the 4 larger cogs, because well...I'm mountain biking so I have to climb up trails (unless I'm descending and leave the chain in the middle of the cassette somewhere). You'd think they'd design the cassettes to have smaller gaps in the larger cogs to give you more options for climbing as you get tired, or how steep and technical the climbs are.
What cassette are you running? Shimano 12 speed has smaller jumps in the last few gears than SRAM does.
+5+6+6+6
vs
+4+4+6+8
Never really thought that on a ride. Might be a clearance issue with the spokes too? Also, the smaller gaps might already be on the larger cogs, because it takes more teeth to have the same % effect. A 9 vs an 11 is a radical difference.
Take the Shimano XT 11-46 cassette for example (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46). I'd rather have a more even tooth numbering throughout instead of in the gears I rarely use. I find the jumps between 32, 37 and 46 are a little wide. It's not the end of the world but still...
The 46t XT is particularly bad on that front. When the 11 speed stuff launched, they only offered 40 and 42t versions. The 46t came later, and is the same thing as the 42 but with the 46t cog swapped on.
I use shimano 11-42 cassettes, plus a 1up 47T cog for my granny. 5 tooth jumps on 3 easiest gears is perfect for me. I wish 1up still made those I would have stockpiled a couple.
The most practical and economical solution is to upgrade to 12 speed shimano, naturally.
perfekt gravel cassette, with one bail out gear for the really steep bits. i rarely use the 46t or the 11t gear
That's a fanboi video. The guy goes the distance on his accompanying blog post trying to save Shimano's ass because the clutch cover doesn't seal the way it should.
I read somewhere else (PB if memory serves me well) Shimano was shipping a replacement kit with a new clutch cover, the screws and a rubber gasket. Seems like the failure is happening to all the 12 speed RDs.
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Or how about how my fucking XTR cassette broke off a tooth on the 2nd ring within 100 miles, and the warranty replacement has about 4-5 shark fins on the 2nd & 3rd rings with 400 miles on it? Do they make them out of fucking cheese? My X01 Eagle cassette was >3,000 miles and looking good when I gave it to my brother-in-law.
Rear hubs have their fair share of issues also. At least, Deore and SLX ones. They develop play at the freehub and the parts marked with "do not lube" (pawls and engagement ring) seize if water gets in. My friend who is a REALLY competent bike mechanic and prefers Shimano over everything else is seriously disappointed with the 12-speed gruppos.
I told him Bill Gates is to blame, The Industry ™ has been screwing up us all since that asshole admitted back in 1998 they were shipping beta quality software and passing the burden of discovering bugs to the end users. If anything, one should stay off the first generation of any product, just to give the manufacturer time to iron out a couple of failures. At least the most obvious ones.
I told him Bill Gates is to blame, The Industry ™ has been screwing up us all since that asshole admitted back in 1998 they were shipping beta quality software and passing the burden of discovering bugs to the end users. If anything, one should stay off the first generation of any product, just to give the manufacturer time to iron out a couple of failures. At least the most obvious ones.
That's the thing... if you have a 10 speed 11-46 cassette (only two options I'm aware of), there's no point in spending the money on 11 speed. 12 is the way to go.
The most practical and economical solution is actually for the rider to get fitter and stronger, then you can run the slightly better spaced 11 speed 11-42 (or even go back to far cheaper and more durable 10 speed 11-36).
But that might involve actually spending your time riding your bike rather than discussing the shortcomings of modern cassettes online.
But that might involve actually spending your time riding your bike rather than discussing the shortcomings of modern cassettes online.