[Udi]

Like what if around the next corner is an old lady and man (not all nimbly-bimbly) out for a stroll? Gunna make them jump off the trail or just hit them?

Rookie, points multiplier only kicks in if you do both.

@Udi actually claims he's already found it and we are all delusional fools thinking we could use some other brand/model. He also needs a 2022-updated Iron Horse Sunday in his life, so go figure..

It's just funny to see people who don't / won't spend the money complaining about price / availability.
Loving all the Sunday reboots, I owned four at various times and still have a soft spot for em!

 

[slimshady]

It's just funny to see people who don't / won't spend the money complaining about price / availability.

I'm not complaining at all. It was just a tongue in cheek comment to summon you here. Just with the classic RM snark sprinkled on top.

If anything, I trust your experience and recommendations about Trickstuff. I just can't afford to justify spending that kind if money for my riding level/ability/terrain/regularity.

Now, and as we have discussed before, if some of the big players could just take a page or two from Trickstuff's book, then maybe we could have mass produced brakes without a tendency to kill us without any previous notice, and with enough power to stop fast guys going at mach chicken (something I haven't experienced myself, noblesse oblige).

Let's wait and see if DT can make that happen.

 

[buckoW]

Now, and as we have discussed before, if some of the big players could just take a page or two from Trickstuff's book, then maybe we could have mass produced brakes without a tendency to kill us without any previous notice, and with enough power to stop fast guys going at mach chicken (something I haven't experienced myself, noblesse oblige).

Let's wait and see if DT can make that happen.

Have you tried the Hayes Dominion A4?

 

[slimshady]

Have you tried the Hayes Dominion A4?

I've read good things about them from you and other members. Unfortunately, Hayes has zero presence here in Argentina, so even procuring something as simple as pads would be a hassle.

 

[toodles]

Have you tried the Hayes Dominion A4?

I ran those down in Maydena (sintered pads, 200mm rotors) and they were spectacular. I'd love a set.

 

[Cerberus75]

I've read good things about them from you and other members. Unfortunately, Hayes has zero presence here in Argentina, so even procuring something as simple as pads would be a hassle.

Ebay, brakes and pads. Just be careful cutting the hoses they're harder to come by right now. I had a customer cut the hose at the banjo to switch frames. Took forever to get a proper hose.

 

[slimshady]

Ebay, brakes and pads

Last government cut us off eBay/PayPal. And not many shops with good prices accept Amazon Pay.

That's what's fucking wrong with the industry government.

 

[Cerberus75]

Last government cut us off eBay/PayPal. And not many shops with good prices accept Amazon Pay.

That's what's fucking wrong with the industry government.

I hit up the seller I buy a lot of stuff from. Asked if he has a way around all that.

 

[djjohnr]

On the Dominions - how much lever travel is there to full lock-up compared to other brakes? I like running my levers close to the bars.

 

[HAB]

On the Dominions - how much lever travel is there to full lock-up compared to other brakes? I like running my levers close to the bars.

The lever throw is a little on the longer side of average, but the lever geometry works well for running the bite point very close to the bar.

 

[Cerberus75]

I've got short fingers, no issues. The lever pull requires less effort. So if trying to avoid arm pump they can be out a little more than most brakes.

 

[mykel]

On the Dominions - how much lever travel is there to full lock-up compared to other brakes? I like running my levers close to the bars.

They work well.
Mine are set to lock-up just short of touching, so 1/8" off or so.

 

[toodles]

They work well.
Mine are set to lock-up just short of touching, so 1/8" off or so.

I was impressed that the bite point didn't move despite me dragging them down 800m of vert in the mud

 

[HardtailHack]

People that copy decent products, the lizards are bad enough, the snakes are worse-

 

[iRider]

People that copy decent products, the lizards are bad enough, the snakes are worse-
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Because there is so much IP in stuffing a mutitool into a steerer tube.

 

[HardtailHack]

Because there is so much IP in stuffing a mutitool into a steerer tube.

Yeah but at least have a go at making it different or better.

I'm gonna get an All In Mk 3, they look pretty good, life's too short to get stuck with a shitty multi tool.
Mk3-

 

[Jm_]

Yeah but at least have a go at making it different or better.
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I'm gonna get an All In Mk 3, they look pretty good, life's too short to get stuck with a shitty multi tool.
Mk3-
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No small parts you'll drop into grass and never find there...

 

[iRider]

Yeah but at least have a go at making it different or better.

To make it clear, I am not condoning copying products. But I guess the company sent their blueprints to China for production, so not that hard to make the exact same thing.
Wasn't everybody here cool with buying fake TLD gloves not too long ago? Double standards much....

 

[Cerberus75]

Yeah but at least have a go at making it different or better.
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I'm gonna get an All In Mk 3, they look pretty good, life's too short to get stuck with a shitty multi tool.
Mk3-
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The magnet isn't strong enough to keep it in the crank in chunk. I've had the original and a knock off both flew out.

 

[scrublover]

The magnet isn't strong enough to keep it in the crank in chunk. I've had the original and a knock off both flew out.

I have the Giant version on my gravel/cross bike - no loose bits to lose and the magnet keeps it nicely in place - at least on that bike.

 

[canadmos]

Wasn't everybody here cool with buying fake TLD gloves not too long ago? Double standards much....

Only one person did that

 

[rideit]

The magnet isn't strong enough to keep it in the crank in chunk. I've had the original and a knock off both flew out.

Ditto here, mine lasted 15 minutes, never to be seen again. Maybe for a road bike…

 

[HeadMaster]

Ditto here, mine lasted 15 minutes, never to be seen again. Maybe for a road bike…

Yeah I had two, thought it was the most useful multi tool, when it was there. Used one and it fell out twice, had another rider find it the first time, second one I gave to buddy for Christmas. He’s not a charger tho and it’s still there.

 

[HardtailHack]

The magnet isn't strong enough to keep it in the crank in chunk. I've had the original and a knock off both flew out.

Ditto here, mine lasted 15 minutes, never to be seen again. Maybe for a road bike…

Yeah I had two, thought it was the most useful multi tool, when it was there. Used one and it fell out twice, had another rider find it the first time, second one I gave to buddy for Christmas. He’s not a charger tho and it’s still there.

Okay, thanks gents, you've saved me some money.
So the original multi tool should be in this thread anyway.

"Are you sure it's safely locked inside the axle?

Of course, 7 high resistance neodymium magnets lock it into the axel... World class series tried and tested!"
Should have done some Monkey testing.

 

[Lelandjt]

The magnet isn't strong enough to keep it in the crank in chunk. I've had the original and a knock off both flew out.

That's your bike rejecting the excess weight at a moment it thought you wouldn't notice. It would rather you keep it in tip top shape and not crash so it doesn't need to be wrenched on trailside.

 

[Carraig042]

I have a similar tool, minus a chain breaker that goes into the handlebar. It works really good for me. If you have aluminum bars, there should be no issues. If you have carbon, this may not be the best depending on the bar (how oval-shaped the inside is).

 

[Cerberus75]

I have the Wolftooth bar end tools. The wife has the Oneup in her stem. Even though these tools are compact and always on the bike I find them fiddly when actually using them. I'm the trail side mechanic in my group. (Every one I ride with is also a customer) I always go back to my Blackburn multi. It has real Allen wrenches that are removable. It's in my pack or a tool strap on the bike.

 

[Rhubarb]

Not understanding how the bar end version has much of a market anymore, what with nearly every lock-on grip now only have an inner lock ring

 

[mykel]

Not understanding how the bar end version has much of a market anymore, what with nearly every lock-on grip now only have an inner lock ring

Yup, every grip I have used or seen on buddies bikes in the last few years have all been inner lock ring with a covered end. Must be an awful lot of people still using Rogues and Ruffians et al.

 

[djjohnr]

I use these. They could fit a tool, although I prefer to use a regular folding one I keep stashed in a bag.

 

[Carraig042]

I use Revgrips that the moneys hate... Sooo I have open bar ends.

 

[Leafy]

If you need more of those Rev grips they're $8 on aliexpress. Haha. You should buy them there, any company that charges a premium but offshores their manufacturing doesn't deserve the business.

 

[Carraig042]

If you need more of those Rev grips they're $8 on aliexpress. Haha. You should buy them there, any company that charges a premium but offshores their manufacturing doesn't deserve the business.

Revgrips machines the aluminum in house and the other parts are made is SoCal.

 

[rideit]

Not understanding how the bar end version has much of a market anymore, what with nearly every lock-on grip now only have an inner lock ring

You just punch the end out with a mallet.
That said, I have the Wolftooth Bar end tools, with mixed results. I have knocked them out a few times clipping trees, and that is goddamn annoying. Completely lost one on one occasion. They also are finicky/slow to use. Enough of a pain that a few times I either asked someone else if they had a multi tool handy, or I even carry a 4mm in my pocket for the most common tightening needs.
Bottom line, great for emergency use or when alone, but I am going to try a one-up steerer do-hickey next for quick-draw access.

 

[jonKranked]

Okay, thanks gents, you've saved me some money.
So the original multi tool should be in this thread anyway.

"Are you sure it's safely locked inside the axle?

Of course, 7 high resistance neodymium magnets lock it into the axel... World class series tried and tested!"
Should have done some Monkey testing.

Into the aluminum axle?

 

[6thElement]

Into the aluminum axle?

But they're strong rare earth magnets!

 

[jonKranked]

But they're strong rare earth magnets!

Strong Bad or Strong Sad?

 

[HardtailHack]

But they're strong rare earth magnets!

You get a steel ring and some glue to make it work in cranks that need it.

 

[jonKranked]

You get a steel ring and some glue to make it work in cranks that need it.

Y u no gorilla tape residue

 

[Rhubarb]

Good to know these toolset options are not that great, before I decide what route to take this summer. Happy with my rusty old folding set, but no slick option to get it onto the bike. I almost went with a One Up pump and toolkit but I am cheap. I have a pump and tool set and One Up’s complete kit is pricey.