This is what's wrong with The Industry™

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Electric_City, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    Bingo. That's exactly what they would like.

    Pack trains and cattle grazing: OK. Mt bikes? NO FUCKING WAY!!
     

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  2. dan-o

    dan-o Turbo Monkey

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    You need to ask Gary Fisher that question.
     
  3. 'size

    'size Turbo Monkey

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    where have you been all my life?
     
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    canadmos Mater Slayer

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    What's the point of a boost front hub?
     
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    It lifts the wheel over obstacles.
     
  6. AngryMetalsmith

    AngryMetalsmith Business is good, thanks for asking

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  7. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Why on earth would you want one of those?
     
  8. Tantrum Cycles

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    It's for boosting doubles, but you have to have a rear boost too, or you'll just flip over.
     
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  9. jstuhlman

    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    industry-leading “e-z breakaway action”?
     
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  10. Tantrum Cycles

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    steerer tube stress concentration tester
     
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  11. kidwoo

    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Because you bought an expensive stem that says "hit and run" on the side and then realized like all the other pussies out there, you don't really ride your dh bike any rowdier than those hawt new enduro bikes which everyone keeps telling you is pretty much the same thing as a dh bike these days.


    You know, if I had to guess.
     
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  12. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    So you instead buy an expensive thing that adds a bunch of bolts and weight, offers none of the advantages of a DM stem in terms of clocking or stiffness (and in fact is almost certainly worse than a normal stem in those areas), adds some stress concentration to your steerer tube, and looks like shit? Cool.
     
  13. jstuhlman

    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    oh shit! well when you consider all that...
     
  14. AngryMetalsmith

    AngryMetalsmith Business is good, thanks for asking

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    Never saw one of those, had to google. So it's basically a direct mount stem adaptor for single crown forks ? Let me guess; it's heavier and costs more than a new stem.

    How long before this a new standard ? And will it be compatible with 36" wide motocross bars on an xc bike ?
     
  15. 'size

    'size Turbo Monkey

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    this is still the what's wrong thread, correct?
     
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    toodles Turbo Monkey

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    So I want a 50mm stem for the new Kona. Can't steal the old Hope stem off the Patrol because the Kona has 35mm bars. So I steal the 50mm off the gf's Slash because she wants a 40mm anyway. Problem solved and everyone happy right? Nope. Slash has proprietary Knock Block stem which works on a normal bike, but my old 40mm Kona stem won't work on the Trek. US price for the cheapest 40mm Knock Block stem - US $39, Aussie price - $129.

    You win this time lizards.
     
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  17. FarkinRyan

    FarkinRyan Monkey

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    Of course your Kona stem won't work on a Trek, it's like you haven't even been paying attention.

    I'm surprised it wasn't the other way that caused you issues though, what with Trek's now needing knockblock specific headset spacers.
     
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  18. 'size

    'size Turbo Monkey

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    wtf is knock block?
     
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    save yourself. run. fast. far
     
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    SylentK Turbo Monkey

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    "The moose out front should've told ya." (Vacation, 1983)

    [insert meme]

    Did you know there are boost cranks? I did not, until I learned that the moose out front didn't tell me.
     
  21. jstuhlman

    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    DAMMIT. so now we can’t trust the moose either???
     
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    canadmos Mater Slayer

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    And boost chain rings.

    Are there boost cassettes and derailleurs?

    How about boost water bottles?
     
  23. StiHacka

    StiHacka Compensating for something

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    Don't forget boost bike racks. :D
     
  24. 'size

    'size Turbo Monkey

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    where there's a will...
    https://www.pinkbike.com/u/MicDoyon/album/Custom-Knock-Block-Stem/
     
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  25. toodles

    toodles Turbo Monkey

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    Thats actually not a bad idea. I don't have CNC but I've got a dodgy little mill at work. Will have a look at that 40mm Kona stem and see if it has enough material/strength there. I don't wanna create a stress riser or anything tho. Dental work costs a lot more than a $130 stem.
     
  26. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Can't you just lop off the knock block tab? Tape up the downtube with some mastik tape if you really want to get fancy.
     
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    toodles Turbo Monkey

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    Yeah I can, but these bikes actually need the knock block thingy to stop some hectic frame-crown interaction in crashes. The stem is what actually stops the fork doing that. Plus the missus will rip me a new one if I go near her bike with a grinder....
     
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    or just use one of these.. number 545523 is the article number from trek. It's called a Knock block spacer. For when you want to use some other stem with your bike that is knock block equipped .
    VOZ_TkKBL_Knock_Block-il.jpg
     
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  29. Sandro

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    Canyon has just discovered the sag point! I give you Triple Phase Suspension™:



     
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    Water Suspension™ FTW!
     
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    Mo(n)arch Turbo Monkey

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    They already had it at the presentation of the Sender. Graph-recycling™, so ECO friendly.
    The removeable weedbox is new though:
     
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    They're just trying to save phase.
     
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  33. Electric_City

    Electric_City The orangutans are loose!

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    I'll add headset "standards" to the list.

    With every fork having a tapered steerer, the manufacturer can standardized the ID of the headtube. Ie. 1.5 to 1 1/8" headset is all we need anymore.
     
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    This actually means Canyon has discovered something 50% of bike makers haven't yet it seems.
     
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    'size Turbo Monkey

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    everyone knows weed is kept in the steerer tube or handlebar. pretty sure that box is for needles, spoon, lighter, rubber hose and your injectable drug of choice.
     
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  36. jackalope

    jackalope Mental acuity - 1%

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    seatpost standards? we don't need no standards!
     
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    norbar Turbo Monkey

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    They do realize the last 1/3 of the travel isn't more but less progressive than the middle "stable" part? I know it makes sense since airshocks but it doesn't in terms of their powerpoint
     
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    jonKranked Press Button, Receive Stupid

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    have you ever seen triathlon bikes? LOL
     
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    'size Turbo Monkey

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    is this an industry problem or just a pivot problem?

     
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