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6thElement

6thElement

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toodles said:
I got the 2FO Roost Flats and the grip is properly impressive. I don't just think they match the 5-10, I think they possibly exceed it for grip.

I'm going to try the DH flat next I think. I used to run Impacts for racing and Freeriders for multi-hour trail rides (the Impacts get too warm here in QLD summer), but the 2FO Roost flat has pretty much replaced both. I do wanna see if the DH flat has a stiffer sole to transmit less impact for DH shuttle days and races though.
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Definitely interested to hear your comparison. I keep wanting to add a pair of impacts again for the stiffer sole on long descents of which there are a lot when just trail riding in Colorado, not including DH or shuttling. Once my freeriders have several months on them the sole doesn't give me enough support for long downhills.
 
Flo33

Flo33

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toodles said:
I got the 2FO Roost Flats and the grip is properly impressive. I don't just think they match the 5-10, I think they possibly exceed it for grip.

I'm going to try the DH flat next I think. I used to run Impacts for racing and Freeriders for multi-hour trail rides (the Impacts get too warm here in QLD summer), but the 2FO Roost flat has pretty much replaced both. I do wanna see if the DH flat has a stiffer sole to transmit less impact for DH shuttle days and races though.
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The NSMB dudes have reviewed both, the Roost and the DH and I think there are some major differences regarding materials and construction. The DH seems to be stiffer, the insole looks quite different and the materials more "techy" and less casual, skate/street style.

How would you describe your feet, Ballerina or Bigfoot? Especially around the toe knuckles or MTP joints.
 
ianjenn

ianjenn

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Flo33 said:
The NSMB dudes have reviewed both, the Roost and the DH and I think there are some major differences regarding materials and construction. The DH seems to be stiffer, the insole looks quite different and the materials more "techy" and less casual, skate/street style.

How would you describe your feet, Ballerina or Bigfoot? Especially around the toe knuckles or MTP joints.
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The 2FO's that I got are very stiff in the sole. Way more so than Sam Hill 5:10s so that sort of sucks......
 
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Andeh

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6thElement said:
Definitely interested to hear your comparison. I keep wanting to add a pair of impacts again for the stiffer sole on long descents of which there are a lot when just trail riding in Colorado, not including DH or shuttling. Once my freeriders have several months on them the sole doesn't give me enough support for long downhills.
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My thoughts on 2FO DH here:

Flat pedal shoes

Sorry if i have missed something but how are ride concepts compared to impact pro? Finally having to buy a new set as my sam hill soles are crumbling and me trying to track down the original 5.10 isn't happening.
ridemonkey.bikemag.com ridemonkey.bikemag.com

TLDR: really nice shoes if they fit you. A hair bit stickier rubber than Impact Pros. Very, very stiff.
 
jackalope

jackalope

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Andeh said:
My thoughts on 2FO DH here:

Flat pedal shoes

Sorry if i have missed something but how are ride concepts compared to impact pro? Finally having to buy a new set as my sam hill soles are crumbling and me trying to track down the original 5.10 isn't happening.
ridemonkey.bikemag.com ridemonkey.bikemag.com

TLDR: really nice shoes if they fit you. A hair bit stickier rubber than Impact Pros. Very, very stiff.
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What this guy and ianjenn said. Sticky AF, stiff AF. Unlike Andeh, they fit my feet great, as I have very narrow cankles and a relatively wide "toe box". If they had the shank of a Freerider Pro, they'd be the perfect shoe IMO (but again, I've never, ever had any foot fatigue issues even on repeated long DH runs).

OK, we've gone off the rails here and have even suggested the new 2FO shoes are 'whats good about the industry', so back to our regularly scheduled lizardry: fuck SWAT boxes, there needs to be a way to store a fishing pole in the frame and/or an exterior mounting system for folding saws and the like.
 
canadmos

canadmos

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jackalope said:
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What this guy and ianjenn said. Sticky AF, stiff AF. Unlike Andeh, they fit my feet great, as I have very narrow cankles and a relatively wide "toe box". If they had the shank of a Freerider Pro, they'd be the perfect shoe IMO (but again, I've never, ever had any foot fatigue issues even on repeated long DH runs).

OK, we've gone off the rails here and have even suggested the new 2FO shoes are 'whats good about the industry', so back to our regularly scheduled lizardry: fuck SWAT boxes, there needs to be a way to store a fishing pole in the frame and/or an exterior mounting system for folding saws and the like.
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Theres an app for that

 
canadmos

canadmos

Cake Tease
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jackalope said:
No way, that would interfere with my freeride steeze. Can't do my air wiggles with rods hanging off the back. But in all seriousness, that is a solution for my "gravel" bike. That or a telescoping rod and a [gasp] backpack. Of fuck it, maybe just a fanny pack full of hand grenades and a casting net.
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WELL, if you also have a spider problem, there is this product: https://www.deepeastsupply.com/

Perhaps instead of using that guys pole, you could swap in your poles?

Seems like a win win situation to me.
 
Flo33

Flo33

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slimshady said:
Shimano does AFAIK. Did anybody here try their flat pedal dedicated shoes?
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Yes, I did. The 2018 legacy SH-GR900 model. Grip is definitely below 5.10 Stealth rubber. Otherwise a good shoe, stiff enough to pedal, good coverage and protection, fast drying. The not as sticky grip as 5.10 allows for easier position changes, which I like but may not be to everyone's liking. The shoe is wider than my also outdated AM9 spd model I use most of the time but thanks to the good working quick lacing it can be tightened enough for my slim and low foot. According to the Shimano website there was even a wide model available. I read somewhere that wide models are only available for bigger sizes, whatever that means.

No time on the current AH-GR903 model. It misses the lace cover which I found quite useful in keeping water and dirt out of my shoes.
 
vivisectxi

vivisectxi

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Gabriel B. Owens says that he slammed into a trail sign and became paralyzed from the waist down while mountain biking at Mt. Hood Skibowl in July of 2016. He’s been awarded $10.5 million in the lawsuit.

Owens’ lawyer claims that Skibowl should have installed collapsible trail markers to indicate the rut that caused Owens to crash.

wtf, yo
 
Jm_

Jm_

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slimshady said:
The GOAT would like to be awarded the same amount by VDS:

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Well, if it was his spine instead of his bike…

During regular maintenance and when we build a new trail, we go looking for stuff on the sides that could impale you, removing the stuff immediately close to the trail.
 
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aaronjb

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Jul 22, 2010
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A couple of comments on the Vital article on Mt. Hood changed my perspective. There may have been some real negligence on the part of the operators (and a jury agreed).
 
toodles

toodles

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IIRC, she brained herself pretty hard in qualis and raced anyway (got 2nd). At the time there were some commentators that said she probably shouldn't have been racing after writing off a helmet, but the team docs ok'ed her and away she went. Now here we are.

Given Thibault's remarkable Les Gets win last season, a week after a horrible smash that knocked him out and made him bite his tongue in half, Team Concussion Commencal might wanna check their doctor's concussion testing protocol isn't just asking if they feel like they can do a race run.
 
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