Lol, they are usually wearing earbuds.
This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Sounds like your trails are really crowded. Damn, that would make me not want to ride. I have only seen 1 other eeb where I live. Granted it's only allowed in one zone, a State Park. Or moto legal trails. I always yield when I'm on the eeb. Up, down, whatever. If I catch up to peeps, I just stop for some water and let them keep going. I really never catch up to people on the downs. I'm pretty sure I'm slower on the downs on the eeb than on regular. They're just that heavy and I'm just so weak! 
Trail dogs! FFS! Where I live they are supposed to be on a leash at all times. But people still think it's ok to let off leash. I mean, there are rattlesnakes out here. Not to mention out of control wanna be pro DH'ers. And plenty of blind curves. Not sure which is worse.
Have you ever hit a dog? I have. It'll throw you right out the front door. There is no time to react. One was my own dog where he decided to cut the course. My private land. He was austrailian, not french (HA). Then in Pemberton a local brought his lab. Great dog, but not if he stops in the middle of an elevated log feature right in front of you.
I love dogs, but dogs and bikes just don't mix. It can actually be pretty dangerous.
Trail dogs! FFS! Where I live they are supposed to be on a leash at all times. But people still think it's ok to let off leash. I mean, there are rattlesnakes out here. Not to mention out of control wanna be pro DH'ers. And plenty of blind curves. Not sure which is worse.
Have you ever hit a dog? I have. It'll throw you right out the front door. There is no time to react. One was my own dog where he decided to cut the course. My private land. He was austrailian, not french (HA). Then in Pemberton a local brought his lab. Great dog, but not if he stops in the middle of an elevated log feature right in front of you.
I love dogs, but dogs and bikes just don't mix. It can actually be pretty dangerous.
On the trails where ebikes are legal, you are lucky to really see anyone at all after the first mile. (Maybe a few more on weekends). This is one reason why the trails are still skinny. Let’s keep it that way.
this is why I went back to riding so much DH this year. yet I still saw people on ebikes at the bike park. at least they stay on the flow trails.
I mean if that's their only bike no issue with it. I have some mates that live in the mountains and they are far away from parks but sometimes go riding with friends to a park. The choice is
a) Not ride your bike
b) rent
c) Ride the e-bike in park
Sure it looks dumb but when did we all get so judgy?
Though I do get the problem with ebikers described above
Something that seems to be really popular around here is losing your trail dog in the mountains. Would guess only about half of them get found.Sounds like your trails are really crowded. Damn, that would make me not want to ride. I have only seen 1 other eeb where I live. Granted it's only allowed in one zone, a State Park. Or moto legal trails. I always yield when I'm on the eeb. Up, down, whatever. If I catch up to peeps, I just stop for some water and let them keep going. I really never catch up to people on the downs. I'm pretty sure I'm slower on the downs on the eeb than on regular. They're just that heavy and I'm just so weak!
Trail dogs! FFS! Where I live they are supposed to be on a leash at all times. But people still think it's ok to let off leash. I mean, there are rattlesnakes out here. Not to mention out of control wanna be pro DH'ers. And plenty of blind curves. Not sure which is worse.
Have you ever hit a dog? I have. It'll throw you right out the front door. There is no time to react. One was my own dog where he decided to cut the course. My private land. He was austrailian, not french (HA). Then in Pemberton a local brought his lab. Great dog, but not if he stops in the middle of an elevated log feature right in front of you.
I love dogs, but dogs and bikes just don't mix. It can actually be pretty dangerous.
Sounds delicious!
This sounds like a premise for a sci-fi film where traildogs form a secret civilization to come back to take revenge on the masters that left them. Have a freak mechanical? It's the lost traildogs doing. Kind of like why milk gets sour because forrest elves pee in it.
Domestic dogs, unlike cats, ain't exactly skillful at self preservation.
My dog, not unlike a gorgeous model, with little intellect or skills, would find a human within minutes to take him home, and give him whatever he wants.
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Domestic dogs like cats aren't capable of forming secret sci-fi civilizations.
Also people who have trail dogs? Why not a tracking beacon?
I'd watch it
not judging, just an observation
I'm not saying everyone on ebikes are complete douches, just the ones that have no trail etiquette.
If I had an ebike and I knew I was riding on trails where the majority of bikes were powered by humans, I'd have some self-awareness and not be a donkey. So maybe change my complaint from "douche bags on ebikes" to "douche bags with no trail etiquette and self awareness they should be banned from leaving their houses."
Please, no spoilers.
And sorry for your loss.
now do unobtanium
I always tend to produce the most spectacular crashes when trying to ride cautiously and I hate cats, good combo?
For a bit, I admit. I let the music flow from my cell phone. You know, loaded playlist, good, motivating type stuff. At 6am who doesn't need that? Back then there really wasn't anyone else on the trail.
But now I use a head phone that goes thru "bone" tech(?) Check out Aftershokz. It doesn't sit in your ear, so you can hear ambient sound as well as your music, or phone call, whateves. It's really cool when you wear earplugs while mowing the lawn, but yet you can hear music like you weren't wearing ear plugs. Crazy.
I use these things while driving and listening to work meetings. Don't tell anyone. When I go off mute, they'll hear the noise. No hiding that.
Top tip: Simply avoid the sort of earbuds that have silicone "buds" which jam in your ears, don't use noise cancelling and set the volume of your music to the maximum level that you can still hear your tyres. (Road or off road) and you'll safely hear others.
As for the sound of nature. I already live out in the country on a farm surrounded by woodland and fields so probably don't really have the sort of noise you need to get away from. But commuting into the city does take up around 8 hours of my week and I'd probably go mental without tunes to enjoy while doing that.
Mtb is often a far MOAR social thing anyway . So obviously music isn't required then.
As for the sound of nature. I already live out in the country on a farm surrounded by woodland and fields so probably don't really have the sort of noise you need to get away from. But commuting into the city does take up around 8 hours of my week and I'd probably go mental without tunes to enjoy while doing that.
Mtb is often a far MOAR social thing anyway . So obviously music isn't required then.
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It depends on the trail. On techy or very fast trails you don't hear the nature anyway. On long mellow trails sure, no headphones but on boring uphils to trails you like? I'd rather be occupied by something that worry if I turned off the iron.
Not observing trail etiquette exists no matter the mode of transport. Ebikes and e-noise while riding still suck.
E-Bikes are noisy to a point where it bothers people? Or is it that E-bikers in some areas are saying beep-boop-bop when passing people?
"e-noise while riding " refers to buds/music, etc. And I'll add visible displays of speed distance, whatever...
How loud are those earbuds? My hearing is shit and unless you ride near me you don't hear what i'm listening too. As for people who ride with speakers we all know they are going to hell.
I love being crashed into when I'm on the side of the trail. Though this is nothing for mountain biking. This will be amazing for skiing. Distracted people losing control of their skis?
Yeah both groups have their incompetent people but skis are less forgiving when it comes to someone doing something dumb and losing control.
Also I once got sent into a hospital becaue a girl tried to jam her ski up my butt, nearly hit my spine too. Can't raise your snowboard and it's not as pointy. It is not fun to realize all of your back is covered in blood because someone is into ski jousting.
Inept skiers at least see what's in front of them.
Are you saying she aimed for my butt on purpose? I mean I know I'm popular with the girls but I didn't know I was making them this crazy. I thought I only have that effect on people here.
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I can say, after over 1000 resort days, that this is not necessarily true.
The Alta Medical center is just as busy as Snowbird’s.