Is that a V1? IIRC they changed their design a bit after a few similar reported weight savings events.
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V1 with the two piece?
V2 is all one piece, I guess they did it to stop that happening as easily.
edit: oops missed the entries above.
Sucks. I know that this is a DH forum but I really liked CyclingTips and especially Dave Rome on the tech side. They had a great balance of nerding out on the latest tech stuff, but also not taking themselves or bicycles too seriously, and loudly opposing things that generally make the experience worse for most people like headset routing of cabling.
One thing wrong: not enough (any?) reasonably priced 160mm cranks.
All I can find right now are those Dev5 numbers…they are $400 (no wholesale price), and appear somewhat dubious in a few ways.
All I can find right now are those Dev5 numbers…they are $400 (no wholesale price), and appear somewhat dubious in a few ways.
Just get the 145 length. Call it the Dark Danish. Be ahead of the curve and a trend-setter like Pole.
Well, I have seen two broken examples, they are kinda heavy, and they look like a bitch to clean. I am super-duper anal about cleaning my bikes, I get into every nook and cranny with windex, paper towels, q-tips, whatever. Too many surfaces.
Stuff breaks, even strong Shimano Saint cranks. Neko has them on his DH bike so they can't be too bad. Neko also cased the ever living shit out of the last jump at St Anne this summer and they survived...not sure how his ankles did 
And I'm sure they're way easier to clean than the cavities on the back of your fork
And I'm sure they're way easier to clean than the cavities on the back of your fork
I don’t want to talk about that. 
But yes, you basically nailed it.
The two failures I saw looked to be from repeated smashing of the end of the arms into rocks, and cracking through to the spindle holes.
But yes, you basically nailed it.
The two failures I saw looked to be from repeated smashing of the end of the arms into rocks, and cracking through to the spindle holes.
I don’t want to talk about that.
But yes, you basically nailed it.
The two failures I saw looked to be from repeated smashing of the end of the arms into rocks, and cracking through to the spindle holes.
So you are concerned about smashing stumpy little cranks on things and destroying them?
Do you actually know how to ride a bike?
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I'm not blaming anyone really. Just saying that the problem isn't a helmet. Some people just have bad spacial awareness and as you say some people are new. So they don't know what to expect even if they have good intentions. I think the real issue we have more and more new people coming to the sport in different ways than before. "Back in our time" usually the communities were smaller so people got "educated" about trail etiquete faster.
Another bike with headset cable routing.
I'm not seeing a bicycle, just a moped.Another bike with headset cable routing.
I'm a fat old man now and I still refuse to acknowledge these contraptions as bikes (mostly because they aren't).
You're not just a fat old man. You're also narrow minded and ignorant to the use of them.
They're actually a shit load of fun to ride for young and in shape riders.
Back in my 20s as a DHer in Scotland with zero uplifts I would definitely have had one had such a thing been available.
Dunno about you but pushing a 50lb DH bike up 8k+ of elevation every weekend to do "lapz" was far from the highlight of my youth.
Do you still watch porn on Betamax too?
They're actually a shit load of fun to ride for young and in shape riders.
Back in my 20s as a DHer in Scotland with zero uplifts I would definitely have had one had such a thing been available.
Dunno about you but pushing a 50lb DH bike up 8k+ of elevation every weekend to do "lapz" was far from the highlight of my youth.
Do you still watch porn on Betamax too?
If the motor is putting out most of the power you are assisting it, not the other way around. Maybe you're the one ebiker who pedals hard but everyone I've seen is just turning the throttle with their feet instead of their right hand.
Except for the open space trails around Denver I haven't ridden in a place that categorizes ebikes differently than motos. If your trails allow ebikes but not surrons or motos than that provides a raison d'etre. But I'd want one with 200mm travel and I'd add a throttle.
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. Ebike motors are force multipliers. If you do no work, it does no work. If you pedal really hard, it does a lot.
If your riding buddies are like mine, you do your best to drill each other into the ground whether e-biking or not. You just go farther, faster, etc. Sure some people just cruise but for many of us, the same ride dynamics are in play.
No, when in the highest two settings every ebike I've been on put out considerable power with only a light spin. If ebikers installed power measuring pedals I bet they'd be surpised at how little they're contributing.
Its the same problem as guns. Making the outdoors accessible to everyone means all the people that cant be bothered to respect the trails, the users, the rules, etc., are the “force multipliers”, as in it multiplies mostly the bad in its unregulated state. Im all for the legitimately disabled and the non-disabled using them with the right training/regulation…but without, expect people to be people…they will take a mile if given an inch and they will use that to treat their fellow people like crap. Its a joke that all these people are trying to get exercise or working as hard as other riders.
I'm curious to your need of such short cranks. Like Westy said, do you not know how to ride a bike? HA
To me, timing pedal strokes to not hit shit is part of the fun
(Think oompa loompa height)I'm curious to your need of such short cranks. Like Westy said, do you not know how to ride a bike? HA
To me, timing pedal strokes to not hit shit is part of the fun
This is my last e-mtb ride. Would I likely be 10 bpm higher and slower on the ascent on an acoustic bike? Yes. But this HR range is actually where I want to be and constitutes real work.
For reference, my last steady state Peloton ride had me about here wrt W/HR efficiency before HR drift kicked in a few beats.
Or a CZEM Drill One!
Bikes of all kinds are fun. Why does this place need to have one niche and criticize all the others? Also, how did fatbikes get the nod on the DH forum?
I don't have any concept of heart rates. I feel like my heart rate is pretty elevated riding moto or DH when I'm going hard. I want to see the graph showing constant pedal output over 200w with spikes into the 400s. Then I want to see the poor drivetrain that suffered under 600-1000w for most of a ride. Nah, actually I don't care. Arguing that ebikes are exercise is like saying motos are. Of course they are. You're riding aggressively and feel tired at the end. Doesn't mean you're the one propelling the bike though. I just accept ebikes for what they are, short travel lightweight motos with a 21mph governor and a weird throttle system. When I can get what is essentially a Surron (200mm travel, DH geometry, aftermarket twist throttle) that's half the weight and still has decent range cuz I can turn off the motor and pedal during the transfers I probably will. It'll replace Surron rides though (which replaced KTM rides), not MTB rides.
Ebikes = suck. Fatbikes = acceptable if you're too poor to winter in the tropics. Dirtbikes = illegal. Short cranks = good. Really short cranks = you can't ride
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am i allowed to just ride my nomad? i mean, it has no motor, 170mm cranks, crabon bars, and only 2.5 tires. is north cackalacka the tropics??? shit.