dentist never had a say in thisam i allowed to just ride my nomad?
dentist never had a say in thisam i allowed to just ride my nomad?
But why do we care? As long as they don't cause trail damage or put pineapple on pizza why be mad at people for enjoying their riding differently?If the motor is putting out most of the power you are assisting it, not the other way around. Maybe you're the one ebiker who pedals hard but everyone I've seen is just turning the throttle with their feet instead of their right hand.
Firstly. Class1 Emtb motors *average* 250w output and peak at around a maximum of 700wIf the motor is putting out most of the power you are assisting it
My max HR max on any proper mtb ride is ALWAYS achieved when descending.This is my last e-mtb ride.
All the more decent Ebike midmotors already have torque and cadence sensors (ie. power meter) as that data is used by the firmware to tell the motor to deliver power smoothly and appropriately to the drivetrain based on rider input. Power data for the rider is available on Spesh/brose motors by installing a certain App. Don't know if anyone has come up with an app that does the same for any other motors but don't see how it wouldn't be possible.If ebikers installed power measuring pedals I bet they'd be surpised at how little they're contributing.
Yes, depending on how aware you are while using earbuds and whether you climb in a full face.am i allowed to just ride my nomad? i mean, it has no motor, 170mm cranks, crabon bars, and only 2.5 tires. is north cackalacka the tropics??? shit.
Someone who has to listen to ebikers call it "pedal assist" and deny that it's a motorcycle.Who the fuck are you that your opinion on whether others might be outputing more or less power than their motor even matters?
That's nice.Aww... diddums
You could always try wearing ear buds and a full face
Wait a minute, hold the phone. Seriously, people think that ebikes are motorcycles?Someone who has to listen to ebikers call it "pedal assist" and deny that it's a motorcycle.
A two wheeled vehicle with a motor is a motorcycle.Wait a minute, hold the phone. Seriously, people think that ebikes are motorcycles?
Turning cranks is not the same as turning a throttle. IMO. Ask my heart rate.
Like maybe on flat stuff. But I go up shit on my ebike that I hike-a-bike on my regular bike. But that's just me.
Well then don't tell my wife I have a motorcycle. She is against them and calls them "donor-cycles".A two wheeled vehicle with a motor is a motorcycle.
A two wheeled vehicle with a motor is a motorcycle.
THISyou're starting to sound an awful lot like the Sierra Clubbers and other anti-mtb groups
but bro, your yum is yukky!Right. Also, a two-wheeled vehicle with cranks and pedals is a bicycle.
Labels are convenient (especially for haters) but it's just not that simple. And be careful guys, you're starting to sound an awful lot like the Sierra Clubbers and other anti-mtb groups. Ride what you want, encourage good behavior regardless, and don't yuck our yum.
Exactly. They're motorcycles for non-motorcyclists.Well then don't tell my wife I have a motorcycle. She is against them and calls them "donor-cycles".
She is also in healthcare.
It is the El Camino challenge: is it a car, is it a truck?Exactly. They're motorcycles for non-motorcyclists.
Say 10yrs ago I'd see lots of people riding XC bikes on the road to get to or from the bush, now I assume because everybody rides XC on ENDURO bikes that this is no longer an enjoyable exercise. Now most of the people I see on the road heading to or from the bush are on E-bikes, the rest are kids that have parents that can only afford pleb level manual bikes.From my friends it's mostly people who have to drive to the mountains have non electric bikes but almost all people who actually live in the mountains have e-mtbs because this allows them to ride where they live and do a lot more riding.
Your area doesn't have strong XC roots? Most XC people tend to care about weight and pedal bob to the point where they spread untrue theories what causes it. So I still see quite a few of them and the biggest wrong bike is people who could be riding a trailbike when they own an enduro bike. But I won't hate on people riding flow trails on bigger bikes because some people have...one bike or at least 1 mountain bike. Hating on people because they can't own "a road bike", "a dj/pumptrack bike", "XC Bike", "trailbike", Enduro bike", "DH bike". If you have limited space at home/flat or limited money you end up with "the wrong bike" sooner or later.Say 10yrs ago I'd see lots of people riding XC bikes on the road to get to or from the bush, now I assume because everybody rides XC on ENDURO bikes that this is no longer an enjoyable exercise. Now most of the people I see on the road heading to or from the bush are on E-bikes, the rest are kids that have parents that can only afford pleb level manual bikes.
I still don't understand people loading an E-Bike in to a car then going for a ride, that seems dumb.
I always have the wrong bike but that's because I like owning only one bike and I'm lucky enough that there are three XC places within 10km from home to ride and there's some big jumps and short DH runs a bit further away so an E-Bike would be a waste of Lithium for me.Your area doesn't have strong XC roots? Most XC people tend to care about weight and pedal bob to the point where they spread untrue theories what causes it. So I still see quite a few of them and the biggest wrong bike is people who could be riding a trailbike when they own an enduro bike. But I won't hate on people riding flow trails on bigger bikes because some people have...one bike or at least 1 mountain bike. Hating on people because they can't own "a road bike", "a dj/pumptrack bike", "XC Bike", "trailbike", Enduro bike", "DH bike". If you have limited space at home/flat or limited money you end up with "the wrong bike" sooner or later.
As for E-Bike to a car. Again. It depends on how many bikes people have. I have mates living in deep mountains who want to go on long rides and sometimes to get to some place they need to drive since otherwise they'd start their trips at 3PM.
So the whole "oh no you have the wrong bike" thing is dumb. First of all because people may have good reasons to use the wrong bike, secondly because they may not afford a bilion of bikes and third is who cares. Nothing is more annoying than douchebags in riding spots meanmugging people trying to find a way to feel superior becasue they are doing bikes "correct". If someone wants to ride an E-Bike Fatbike trike on flow trails I don't care. Sure I will comment it's a bit weird but that's the extent of my interest.
It really depends. Imho an Ebike makes more sense if you live close to the hills. If you have a 3h drive like me you can still chose lift access places or treat riding like a full holiday and ride up. But still the only yucking of yums I will do is people who think Italian coffee is good.I always have the wrong bike but that's because I like owning only one bike and I'm lucky enough that there are three XC places within 10km from home to ride and there's some big jumps and short DH runs a bit further away so an E-Bike would be a waste of Lithium for me.
90% of my bike rides start/end at my place. No car involved. I have to ride 5 km paved/gravel roads to get to trails.Say 10yrs ago I'd see lots of people riding XC bikes on the road to get to or from the bush, now I assume because everybody rides XC on ENDURO bikes that this is no longer an enjoyable exercise. Now most of the people I see on the road heading to or from the bush are on E-bikes, the rest are kids that have parents that can only afford pleb level manual bikes.
I still don't understand people loading an E-Bike in to a car then going for a ride, that seems dumb.
Right. Also, a two-wheeled vehicle with cranks and pedals is a bicycle.
A road bike with an engine?! Now I've seen everything!
Agree!We're not all the same. Thank fuck.
That's nice.You hatey guys do realise pigeon holing everything only serves to make you even more narrow minded and ignorant.
We're not all the same. Thank fuck.
That my Scottish friend has to be the only thing I envy about your homeland and some other countries of the old continent. Nothing comes as natural as that single law.the law here is basically.. Go where you pleases but minimise damage and clean up after yourself.
Idk, seems many have already noted the unsprung to sprung mass weight ratio benefit for suspension tuning. In simple terms, its gunna be plusher. Closer to moto.An EMTB rides absolutely nothing like a (lite) moto at all. Those "fat" riders you dislike's weight, lifestyle and fitness are not actually a problem at all. Your blind prejudice and elitist attitude is. The only "problem" is the narrow minded views as seen here ad infinitum.
Thank fuck I don't live in a country with tons of stupid "rules" about where you can or can't ride your bike.
We have just one rule* here. Universally understood and only really ever flounted by complete fuckwits with no common sense.
*the law here is basically.. Go where you pleases but minimise damage and clean up after yourself.
And the scotchThat my Scottish friend has to be the only thing I envy about your homeland and some other countries of the old continent. Nothing comes as natural as that single law.
FFS. Stop taking "notes" and actually spend some time riding one. An mtb with heavier downtube and BB area still doesn't make it handle anything like a moto.Idk, seems many have already noted the unsprung to sprung mass weight ratio benefit for suspension tuning. In simple terms, its gunna be plusher. Closer to moto.
Nah, I'm a beer man myself. Never acquired the taste of Scotch or champagne.And the scotch