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Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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Power data metrics can actually be quite handy while riding an Ebike. So long as it gives an accurate display of rider and motor power output.
 
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Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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Power data metrics can actually be quite handy while riding an Ebike. So long as it gives an accurate displays the rider and motor power output.
I would actually like to know those data. Shimano knows. But they do not release it from their STEPS black box
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Power data metrics can actually be quite handy while riding an Ebike. So long as it gives an accurate display of rider and motor power output.
But why would you need a bolt on power meter on an Ebike? They already have torque sensors to determine how much power to send to the motor.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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But why would you need a bolt on power meter on an Ebike? They already have torque sensors to determine how much power to send to the motor.
because it's locked up in their software:

I would actually like to know those data. Shimano knows. But they do not release it from their STEPS black box
 

Gary

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Aug 27, 2002
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But why would you need a bolt on power meter on an Ebike? They already have torque sensors to determine how much power to send to the motor.
I didn't mention bolting on anything.
As you've realised all decent mid drive motors already have the relevant sensors to give power data. To what accuracy will depend on the motor. And availability of that data down is to the manufacturer.
 

Gary

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There's no way I'd purchase a stand alone power meter of any sort for any of my bikes but my fazua powered Eeb's power data is mapped to the power metric on my garmin. Coz. Why not?
I ride it with no assistance more than with tho.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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there's nothing radder than justifying your purchase of an ebike to the masses by claiming you don't really use it, and instead just use it as a much heavier than necessary pedal bike.

Like that tacoma I got that I push to work....
I like to ride a tandem with no other rider
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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I like to ride a tandem with no other rider
are you attacking my e-cargo bike purchase

I used it to pick up Raising Cane's the other day. and it actually was great for that.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
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I have to admit the first time I saw a Bakfiets I thought it was a porta-coffin kind of bike. Like you would crash, and the coffin would already be there for you to be buried in it.
I test rode one of those. Handling was too weird. Mine is a conventional longtail instead.

 

Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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there's nothing radder than justifying your purchase of an ebike to the masses by claiming you don't really use it, and instead just use it as a much heavier than necessary pedal bike.
"The masses"? :rofl::rofl:

I've never needed to justify any purchase with anyone I actually know. Nevermind 12 internet forum users.

Ps. I've no idea what a tacoma is
 
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Gary

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Bikael Molton

goofy for life
Jun 9, 2003
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I'd prefer a Hilux over a Taco TuRD Brodozer, but americans demand extra tall and long hoods and other aesthetic modifications. The long and tall hood looks extra tough when combined with a 4' bed to show off that you don't actually do any work with the truck, and that extra 18" of empty space in front of the radiator is key for intimidating folks when stuck in traffic!
 

Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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americans demand extra tall and long hoods and other aesthetic modifications. The long and tall hood looks extra tough when combined with a 4' bed to show off that you don't actually do any work with the truck, and that extra 18" of empty space in front of the radiator is key for intimidating folks when stuck in traffic!
...and sneering at folk passing them while pushing a chain around the cranks of a bicycle. Even more so if it has a tiny little 250w motor?

gotcha :thumb:
 

Electric_City

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Apr 14, 2007
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The fact that when a DH bike uses 4" of its 8" the seat still gets shredded by the rear wheel. To stop this you need a full length seat post and can only ride seated.