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slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
I feel this way about most video content

articles pls
I get most people these days just play a podcast as a soundrack and keep on with their lives. Then mentally erase all of the "umms" "yeah bro" "right on" and the other gazillion language crutches podcasters fill their minute quota with, and then try to convince you to listen to the darn podcast with maybe a two-minute excerpt.

But as you say, I loves me a well written piece. Video generation is a disgrace.

 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
what the hell am I doing wasting my time with coffee in the morning


god damn that gets me ready to face the day!
 

chuffer

Turbo Monkey
Sep 2, 2004
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seats probably werent high enough



Ive been watching that on a loop for over an hour now

poetry in motion
I have to admit I watched it for way too long. More out of confusion / disbelif. Literally, on my very first day on a mtb in 1989 - a 23” frame size, btw, I was better on a bmx track than that. I contend it’s not possible to be THAT bad on a bike - even for a dirtroadie.

And that’s the first table on the first straight! What did the big jump on the second look like? The rhythm section on the third?
 

vivisectxi

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it's fascinating that they just rocked into that jump with (evidently) no idea of what dynamics they'd incur. given an evident lack of self preservation / good judgement, how they've actually survived up to this point is impressive.
 

Inclag

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Sep 9, 2001
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Discovery doing Discovery things. They’re really trying to find ways to thin the field. Stolen from Vitals forum via Jack Reading.


THE NEW RULE CHANGE FOR WORLD CUPS MEANING RIDERS DON'T SCORE POINTS IN SEMI
FINALS, IS TOTALLY INSANE. RIDERS FINISHING 31-60TH GET
NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
BEST EXAMPLE IS @ADBRAYTON WHO IS 55TH IN THE WORLD CUP OVERALL WITH 47 POINTS. BUT THESE POINTS APPARENTLY DON'T
COUNT TOWARDS THE 40 REQUIREMENT, SO HE CAN'T
RACE... WHAT A TOTAL JOKE!!
Kind of wonder if riders like Kolb would have been able to cut it and get to where they have if their early careers had to follow some of these new rules.
 

mykel

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Apr 19, 2013
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Being I'm not plugged into the race scene in anyway other than watching races online. Can somebody enlighten me?

I understand that venues have to pay the UCI, it is a scam like the Olympics. I get that. Most of the costs seem to be picked up the the venues, teams an sponsors. I have also been led to believe that the UCI uses MTB and more specifically the gravity events as a cash cow.

If this is the case, why does it seem that the UCI wants to kill off DH, because from what I have seen from the shitshow it has become, it seems to be the only thing that makes sense. They have made it far harder and far less palatable to watch. That seems to be a poor way to keep a cash cow alive.

What am I missing?
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
What am I missing?
this

these are racers

 

mykel

closer to Periwinkle
Apr 19, 2013
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this

these are racers

You were not the only person who had that on repeat and was giggling to hisself for far to long.
 

ebarker9

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Because they changed the rule MID season.


Because they're cunts
They changed the 40 point threshold or the rule around UCI points and semis? The article talks about not giving UCI points, but I couldn't find any references to what changed when.
 

Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
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As far as WC success is concerned Brayton is realistically past his best and just making up the numbers. But that's not the point. A smaller field in finals isn't an entirely bad idea but only if a large field is able to attempt to qualify. This year's semi final format needs binned. And maybe revert to reduce number in finals of 50 to 60 riders. As realistically no one below that is a genuine contender.
Currently with this new ruling . How the fuck is any newcomer/privateer expected to break into WC DH now?

Maybe some riders could talk about starting a union?
 

ianjenn

Turbo Monkey
Sep 12, 2006
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As far as WC success is concerned Brayton is realistically past his best and just making up the numbers. But that's not the point. A smaller field in finals isn't an entirely bad idea but only if a large field is able to attempt to qualify. This year's semi final format needs binned. And maybe revert to reduce number in finals of 50 to 60 riders. As realistically no one below that is a genuine contender.
Currently with this new ruling . How the fuck is any newcomer/privateer expected to break into WC DH now?

Maybe some riders could talk about starting a union?

Start a new series that uses tracks riders like. Get $2-3$ Million in sponsorship. I would go after US tobacco or PornHub then you can pay the top 5 riders money. Maybe $50K for first and work it down. Track access is only granted two days before race day so massive teams don't have scouts advantage.....tell UCI and their road bikeways to suck a dick.
 

trib

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What I think I'm missing is how he raced the earlier World Cups if he didn't have the required 40 points?
I believe his position and points from last season qualified him for the first half of this season
 

Gary

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May I suggest using it as a mixer with vodka rather than to put out flames on your Ferrari
 

Andeh

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I believe his position and points from last season qualified him for the first half of this season
Yeah, there was a quote from him on PB, and he said that. He had enough points last season to get in the first races here, missed one race, and hasn't made it to finals yet this year. He figured he'd be ok since he passed qualis all the races he did this year, but apparently under The New Regime, that is meaningless.
 

iRider

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Apr 5, 2008
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Wait guys, isn't this the points list that a bunch of you argued is not important at all a couple of weeks back?
Well, UCI thinks it is important and the racers that were on your page got caught out for ignoring it.

BTW: it is on a sliding scale and gets updated every month I think. At one point you lose points from the previous period and if no new ones got acquired you are short.

Not saying that I agree with that riders consistently qualifying for WC races should be excluded because of this.
 

canadmos

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Getting kicked out races, because you were participating in said races already, doesn't make much sense.

It also doesn't make much sense that people can just waltz up and choose to race, after not racing all year. Just because $$$ was waved around.

Its a lose lose situation, you don't want any of them to not participate.

The only winners here are wherever that cash stream flow at the UCI ends up at.
 

Andeh

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Getting kicked out races, because you were participating in said races already, doesn't make much sense.

It also doesn't make much sense that people can just waltz up and choose to race, after not racing all year. Just because $$$ was waved around.

Its a lose lose situation, you don't want any of them to not participate.

The only winners here are wherever that cash stream flow at the UCI ends up at.
Yep, as it is, after a season of this, the only people allowed to race will be those on factory teams who throw down big $$$, or guys who managed to get into finals a few time. So like 40-50 people total?
 

Gary

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That's kinda how most proper big money competitive sport works. If you're not good enough to be bought by one of the big teams. You're not ever going to be participating in the top leagues/competitions.
...and if WC DH was to become run by a TV company that's exactly the way I think they'd want it.
 

Bikael Molton

goofy for life
Jun 9, 2003
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It would suck for DH racing to go full on pay to play / pay to win like F1 (not to say that drivers like Verstappen aren't gifted).

Would love to see RedBull unite with Crankworx to create a serious competitor to the UCI series, though I think it would be a major risk that probably would fail.

Monopolies suck, yes even in sports.