[Gary]

Yeah. Thought asmuch.
And makes sense the little mucky nutz design Jason (among many others) stole would clear the mechanism.
Here longer plastic moulded RRP/Mud hugger style guards pretty much killed off those. Because Enduro and god forbid if a piece of mud ruined your dorky goggles and helmet look .

 

[Jm_]

So whatever happened to this style of trays? (what our other park uses/used) Too easy instead of lofting an e-bike over your head? Too hard because the park has to change the chairs? I thought there were versions that somehow attached to a standard chair too.

 

[rideit]

Because Lift Industry Lizards.
The next generation will have Kashima.

 

[sethimus]

So whatever happened to this style of trays? (what our other park uses/used) Too easy instead of lofting an e-bike over your head? Too hard because the park has to change the chairs? I thought there were versions that somehow attached to a standard chair too.

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throughput. whistler can now transport 4 or more riders per chair + bikes instead of only every other chair

 

[SylentK]

I have ditched backpacks for riding, its so much better without them.

Even my fanny pack gets very little use now. I will only pull that out on really long rides, when I need to carry a beer or if its super hot and I need more water.

I just carry everything on the bike now. Crush some beer (or water) before hitting the trails and I'm good for 15-20km.

There used to be an enginerd on this board that swor by hydrating before hand, on the shuttle up. And only have a tiny bottle or two for like a 4 hour ride. In Moab. I hope he's still doing ok. I'm sure he's thriving and riding.

 

[Jm_]

throughput. whistler can now transport 4 or more riders per chair + bikes instead of only every other chair

is it still like 1 out of 7 gondolas for bikes and people that are going to walk 50 feet at the top and get back in and ride down for everyone else?

 

[sethimus]

what does that have to do with their gondola? this about their new chairlift

 

[Jm_]

what does that have to do with their gondola? this about their new chairlift

Uplift capacity at the choke points.

 

[Leafy]

So whatever happened to this style of trays? (what our other park uses/used) Too easy instead of lofting an e-bike over your head? Too hard because the park has to change the chairs? I thought there were versions that somehow attached to a standard chair too.

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the Ones on the backs of the chairs people are riding let’s they not take any chairs off the lift and just let’s them bolt on to the chairs. They also let you do self unload on decoupling lifts, like you unload your own bike at the top. Saves them paying for as many lifties as bikes on the lift as the top.

 

[Jm_]

the Ones on the backs of the chairs people are riding let’s they not take any chairs off the lift and just let’s them bolt on to the chairs. They also let you do self unload on decoupling lifts, like you unload your own bike at the top. Saves them paying for as many lifties as bikes on the lift as the top.

Those are the ones I was thinking of.

 

[sethimus]

Uplift capacity at the choke points.

last year, without the chair lift, yes

 

[canadmos]

Seems like a well implemented solution.

 

[sethimus]

problem is they put the lower bar the rear wheel rests on too far back. i wonder why, looks like its a complete doppelmayr setup. they should know better

 

[vivisectxi]

*notes lack of bleed valve washers. i tell you, a fender removal station (that sells fox washers & lift compatible fenders) would be a lucrative business.

 

[konifere]

I'm pretty sure the rack person only rested it on the bleeder because of the criminal orange brake line and shifter housing.

 

[vivisectxi]

^fair

 

[Lelandjt]

Seems like a well implemented solution.

This photo shows bleeders reinstalled without the plastic washers after removing a fender. You can see the gap between bleeder and fork casting. No bueno.

 

[rideit]

Ok, so I have about 500 miles of hard riding without the plastic spacers, no harm, no foul, no problems. I had no idea it was an issue, and have experienced no negative result.
Just a data point on one, of course.

 

[rideit]

in other news, fucking new Shimano ‘wireless’ still has wires. (GRX Di 2x12).


FAIL.

 

[Leafy]

It’s grx who cares?

 

[rideit]

Because it’s likely indicative of what they will release for XTR/XT, that’s why it matters.
I do not want ANY internally routed anything on my ebike moving forward.

 

[sethimus]

you can route the levers internally, but you don‘t need to. rest is still the same unified battery system with cables

 

[slimshady]

Because it’s likely indicative of what they will release for XTR/XT, that’s why it matters.
I do not want ANY internally routed anything on my ebike moving forward.

Road and gravel groupsets need the central battery because of the two derailleurs. the MTB version won't have it. The shifter and rear derailleur will have separate batteries.

EDIT: obviously the ebike version of XTR/XT/Deore rear derailleur will be wired, to the main battery.

 

[Gary]

Because it’s likely indicative of what they will release for XTR/XT, that’s why it matters

What? So you think front mechs are returning to mtb along with rigid seatposts to house a battery?
Cool

I do not want ANY internally routed anything on my ebike moving forward.

Erm... you thought any of this through
or are you just drunk AF?
#Fair enough. it is Thursday already

 

[rideit]

Uhh, no? You got comprehension problems, mate? Current XT Di2 has bullshit wires, too. What does a front derailleur have to do with an MTB?

What Don’t you understand about not wanting any internally routed cables or wires? (Excepting the controller, I guess).
Or wanting a hidden battery?

its really fucking simple.
All else is available, rear D, Seatpost, externally routed brake hose. I just don’t like sram shifting , and they only make a 170mm wireless post.

 

[rideit]

EDIT: obviously the ebike version of XTR/XT/Deore rear derailleur will be wired, to the main battery.

I would vastly prefer it not be, unless it could hold a phantom charge independent of the main power, in case you run your main battery d-e-d dead.
Same for any integrated lights.

 

[Gary]

What do you not understand about how Emtb mid mounted motors connect to their batteries, switches and sensors? Fazua has slightly less but nonetheless still requires cables

Other than Ebike motors I I'd hate a mountainbike with electric components. But if there was absolutely no alternative. Personally I'd far rather have all power connected to one larger battery than having to manage charge levels for a multitude of stupid removable batteries all over the bike.

Out of interest. Do you actually have AXS (or any other fully wireless) components already?

 

[toodles]

It’s grx who cares?

Its electronic drivetrain components. Who cares?

 

[rideit]

What do you not understand about how Emtb mid mounted motors connect to their batteries, switches and sensors? Fazua has slightly less but nonetheless still requires cables

Other than Ebike motors I I'd hate a mountainbike with electric components. But if there was absolutely no alternative. Personally I'd far rather have all power connected to one larger battery than having to manage charge levels for a multitude of stupid removable batteries all over the bike.

Out of interest. Do you actually have AXS (or any other fully wireless) components already?

Reading comprehension: “excepting the controller/etc”. You know what I meant.
(Shifter/post/brake housing). IE: common maintenance tasks. I don’t want changing housings to be a two hour job, it’s bullshit.

 

[rideit]

What do you not understand about how Emtb mid mounted motors connect to their batteries, switches and sensors? Fazua has slightly less but nonetheless still requires cables

Other than Ebike motors I I'd hate a mountainbike with electric components. But if there was absolutely no alternative. Personally I'd far rather have all power connected to one larger battery than having to manage charge levels for a multitude of stupid removable batteries all over the bike.

Out of interest. Do you actually have AXS (or any other fully wireless) components already?

No, because I personally find AXS Transmission shifting annoyingly slow, and, as stated, they only make a 170 post (I run a 210). Magura is too heavy and clunky at this point.

 

[Gary]

I do not want ANY internally routed anything on my ebike moving forward.

My reading comprehension is A+
Thanks

 

[Gary]

We agree on AXS' unacceptably slow speed of shifts.
Electric shifting and droppers are also LESS user controllable.
170mm saddle drop is plenty for me apart from for clearance when manualling. 250mm is perfect for that

 

[Gary]

Most Emtb frames gained 500g-1kg when manufacturers realised buyers wanted "hidden" batteries.

We're not Ebiking, honest!

We're dumb AF

 

[rideit]

My reading comprehension is A+
Thanks

lol, fair dinkum !

 

[Jm_]

lol, fair dinkum !

I have no idea what that means, but dont mess with texa$$.

 

[4xBoy]

I had a 200 dropper, neat but useless for me, fully dropped my knees can't bend that hard.

 

[rideit]

I’m a bit of a mutant, 5’ 8”/ 173cm, almost 33”/84cm. inseam.
I even have a replacement knee.

 

[HardtailHack]

So whatever happened to this style of trays? (what our other park uses/used) Too easy instead of lofting an e-bike over your head? Too hard because the park has to change the chairs? I thought there were versions that somehow attached to a standard chair too.

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Don't people buy E-Bikes so they don't have to use lifts?

 

[4xBoy]

 

[Jm_]

Don't people buy E-Bikes so they don't have to use lifts?

Yes, but they still want to ride DH at the parks and clog up your trails.