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This is what's wrong with The Industry™

SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
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coloRADo
The fallacy lies in the assumption an AI is somehow better than humans at picking stuff, when in reality it's heavily dependent on the data it was fed on (usually, too little because preselection takes time and model refining means moar money), the selection criteria (and therefore, the bias) built in by whoever designed it, and finally on the constraints it's presented with.

Because let's be honest, this is far from being intelligent design (even by catholic standards). It's just a poor algorithm trying to find something that pleases its creators to keep their attention.
Oh man 10 out of 10 (I don't say 100%, cuz it's tacky :)

I've done some of this AI tech. It's such jackassery (fukaboutary?). But when Marketing/Sales funds your budgets and goals....fukeneh.

But what can you do?

Try to make things better.

Progress, not perfection.

Patience.

Keep on it.

Good will prevail in the end.

All the things.

Go ride your bike at break neck speeds and have fun.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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7,327
Should have bought a generic Chinese one from Ali, this one is a piece of shit for 3X the price.
The edge of the back piece grinds on the orange piece, needs a different design or a washer between the two pieces.
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trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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TRP/tektro customer support seems to be accessible via a chat window that won’t validate the captcha. As such, the cheap part I need to get fixed on a commuter brake lever assembly will warrant a whole new lever.

Unnecessary waste and expense.
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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680
I ended up emailing and got a response and link to the correct spare part. Shipping and the spare part costs more than a whole new lever assembly though.
 

konifere

Monkey
Dec 20, 2021
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754
I was replacing the tires on my commuter bike and it’s got WTB SX24 rims from 2009 or 2010. Those rims are 24mm external and 17mm internal, and as you can (barely) see on the picture, the walls have a flat 3.5mm surface on top of both sides to prevent pinch flats.

Companies are now coming out with those kind of rims saying that it’s a new thing, but those rims are 15 years old and the goal was the same. Going full circle…
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konifere

Monkey
Dec 20, 2021
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One could think so, but those are the cheap aluminium rims that came on a 1000$cad bike in 2009... which I bought for 100$ 7-8 years ago.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,381
10,852
AK
well I thought the problem was with CF rims cracking, vs. alu that just bends around the rock and warps to fit it.
 

konifere

Monkey
Dec 20, 2021
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754
The newest Grade 300 V2 alu rims from Industry Nine have a 4mm bead wall to help pinch flats and I think that DT are also working on a new alu rim that also has wider beads (the silver proto that riders were riding at the last WC if I am not mistaken).
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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8,941
i can't what's going on in that picture so....

I was confused for a bit as well. He pulled the sidewall of the tire medically just a bit. Then right by the bead there’s a small bit of black rim visible.
 

Electric_City

Torture wrench
Apr 14, 2007
2,075
805
Worldwide cyclery doing an interview with Srams ceo. Yawn.

-What part of your job do you like best?
-I like it all!

-What do you prefer, road or mountain?
-That's like asking me which of my son's I like better!

15 minutes of pain was enough.
 

ebarker9

Monkey
Oct 2, 2007
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While these look ridiculous and I'm not buying a pair, the concept makes sense to me (I think).

I like wearing glasses while riding for eye protection, but it generally takes about 10 minutes during the summer before they're dripping with sweat and I can't see where I'm going. Goggles don't usually have that issue, so if they've managed to make goggles that are more tolerable to wear trail riding it seems like there's some merit there.
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,912
10,019
Crawlorado
While these look ridiculous and I'm not buying a pair, the concept makes sense to me (I think).

I like wearing glasses while riding for eye protection, but it generally takes about 10 minutes during the summer before they're dripping with sweat and I can't see where I'm going. Goggles don't usually have that issue, so if they've managed to make goggles that are more tolerable to wear trail riding it seems like there's some merit there.
I hate the look, but certainly not the idea. Having ridden with contacts for years, my eyes were (and are, post-Lasik) always super sensitive to any dust, debris, or wind. Sunglasses block 90% of that but I can't say I'm opposed to stopping the extra 10%.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,888
5,253
Australia
I imagine I'll never see those gloggles in real life. When the Rockbros version comes out for $25 on Amazon, I'll take a look.
I imagine for people who wear contacts or something those would be good? I'd rather wear normal goggles with an open face if the conditions merited it.
 

jstuhlman

bagpipe wanker
Dec 3, 2009
17,410
14,285
Cackalacka du Nord
i wear contacts and have never felt the need for eye protection. i hate having any part of my peripheral vision cut off (this hack needs to see all that he can so he doesn't die). i don't even wear them with a full face, looking like a joey be damned. and yes, i ride in mud...

hell, i only wear them skiing when they're blowing snow.
 

djjohnr

Turbo Monkey
Apr 21, 2002
3,121
1,810
Northern California
I've had contacts get air under them and dislodge in the middle of a DH. Now I just ride without contacts...you go faster if you don't see the obstacles! The only problem is I avoid branches on the ground when climbing because I'm not sure if it's a branch or a rattlesnake. Still beats wearing bukkake blades though.
 

Milleratio

Monkey
Oct 24, 2021
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Can someone explain it like I'm 5 what exactly was wrong with the Fox glasses?

You don’t like the look? They don’t function as glasses/goggles? You’re too boomer to wear them? Pinkbike comments section doesn’t like them?
 

Lelandjt

adorbs
Apr 4, 2008
2,647
1,003
Breckenridge, CO/Lahaina,HI
I imagine for people who wear contacts or something those would be good? I'd rather wear normal goggles with an open face if the conditions merited it.
I skimmed the article and never saw a description of the goggles' features that make them different from normal. It talked about more air flow but didn't show or describe the vents. All my goggles have as much venting as possible while still covering the vents with foam.
 

SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
2,656
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coloRADo
I assume this is a nice medium between goggles and sun glasses.

I've worn contacts all my life. The only time sunglasses aren't enough, is lift service terrain. Where you wear a full face and goggles.

My local trails don't really have that kind of speed. And I've got the huge Oakley sunnies, which offer plenty of protection. And even then I have to take them off on the climbs so they don't fog up. So....IDK.

That being said, I wouldn't mind trying....?
 

Andeh

Customer Title
Mar 3, 2020
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I hate the look, but certainly not the idea. Having ridden with contacts for years, my eyes were (and are, post-Lasik) always super sensitive to any dust, debris, or wind. Sunglasses block 90% of that but I can't say I'm opposed to stopping the extra 10%.
I also had Lasik, and for the same reason can't understand why you'd want to wear these instead of proper goggles. I even got the Smith Rhythm ones with a fine screen on top/bottom to help keep out the odd bits of grit that fly up. Even with high coverage glasses (Smith Wildcats, Oakley Flight Jackets), I still get something that sneaks around the lens every handful of rides. Worst was when an actual fly got sucked and hit my eyeball. If I'm wearing a FF (which is most of the time), I'd rather have goggles to help hold the helmet still.
 

Bikael Molton

goofy for life
Jun 9, 2003
4,088
1,235
El Lay
I wear sunglasses with a half lid, goggles with a full face. When I'm in a half lid I'm climbing my bike and the weather is warm, so I don't want to wear a goggle due to steaming up.
Never had a reason to change any of that up. I don't live in a cold climate or ride in the rain like some of y'all.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,381
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AK
The biggest issue with goggles IME is fogging. The biggest reason you use them is watering with mud being a pretty close secondary. The issue with fogging though is this isn't like motorsports or even skiing, our exertion screws the entire thing up, skiing you are going downhill all the time, as you work harder on mtb, in cooler places, you start getting fog. Unless this somehow magically stops fog, which every single thing that makes that claim doesn't deliver on, I don't see the point.

Plus, these make fuck-all allowance for people that have to wear glasses. I did start using contacts for similar reasons, but not everyone can.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,744
1,255
NORCAL is the hizzle
The biggest issue with goggles IME is fogging. The biggest reason you use them is watering with mud being a pretty close secondary. The issue with fogging though is this isn't like motorsports or even skiing, our exertion screws the entire thing up, skiing you are going downhill all the time, as you work harder on mtb, in cooler places, you start getting fog. Unless this somehow magically stops fog, which every single thing that makes that claim doesn't deliver on, I don't see the point.

Plus, these make fuck-all allowance for people that have to wear glasses.
Add dust to the list for those of us in dry climates. So much dust...

I'm one of those people who doesn't have a choice and needs to wear glasses. And my prescription is so strong that none of the fancy prescription sports glasses come close. I've tried a few "OTG" (over-the-glasses) goggles over the years but have yet to find any that don't fog up almost immediately. It's especially fun when your glasses AND your goggles fog up.