This is what's wrong with The Industry™

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Electric_City, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. johnbryanpeters

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    So you are going to pick a heavier fork with thicker 34mm stanchions to a fork with 35 or 36mm ones?
     
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    rockofullr confused

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    Maybe they are working on an e-40 DC fork.
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    I mean, this is my "trail bike". So none of the above? IMG_20180709_193426_01.jpg
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Okay that's one bridge too far.

    They do need to fix the offset on the 40 though, there's way too much.
     
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    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    I thought it looked like the first viable* replacement to a chain. Why do you think it's stupid?

    P.S. Read the info on the project before saying something stupid.

    *I would think that making the "cassette" laterally stiff enough would be a challenge but engineers are smarter than me.
     
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    My 2c Interesting idea, won't be practically executable without making bikes heavy.
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    If you think mine looks ridiculous, a friend of mine has one, only a size bigger and with 29 wheels stuffed in it. No 40 though.
     
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    one HUGE PROBLEM for suspension, unless concentric bb and you know, even Devin isn't using that anymore.

    Chain growth. Or in driveshaft speak, axle plunge.
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Yeah, going to be borderline impossible to make that work on a FS bike, especially in the multi-speed form.

    I think it makes way more sense on a road bike, could be neat there.
     
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    Reasons I think this is stupid:

    - Just looking at the area of the contact point between the drive shaft and the "rings" there's not enough area there to spread out the force of a strong dude standing on the pedals. Stuff is gonna snap and or just wear really fast.

    - To quote the article "It requires an elevated chainstay, and therefore a custom frame. Should it make it into production, frame builders would be required to build the bike specifically for this"

    - None of the videos show it shifting. By the looks of it shifting is going to be a big issue for this design and I suspect they haven't gotten it figured it out yet.

    - In general drive shafts are heavier than chain drives so what you gain in efficiency you may just loose in weight.

    - This will require high levels of precision manufacturing to work and therefore $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Warning: I may myself be stupid, so these reasons could be stupid :imstupid:
     
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    6thElement Schrodinger's Immigrant

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    So much for the labeling on e-bikes showing what classification they are, read this elsewhere,
    "Standard Bafang BBS02 48v750w (new controller version, but with the markings sanded off and this stuck on)".

    So your 750W creation only looks like a simple 250W...
     
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    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    I'm gonna get one to put on my regular old bike. :D
     
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    if only you could get the same performance out of chrome :D
     
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    William42 fork ways

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    At least that weight gain has some measure of functionality.

    I'm not saying it's good.

    I'm just saying, it's better than orange.

    https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Orange-Bikes-at-Eurobike-2018,2458

    In other news, despite having other good tires available to copy for my entire riding career, WTB has still failed to put out a well designed tire, and still hasn't quite figured out what the side knobs are supposed to do or how they function while cornering. WTB lizards, if you're reading this, heres a protip: Look at what Maxxis was doing 15 years ago. Copy that. Literally make a replica of it. You'll be 15 years behind maxxis, but it'll still be orders of magnitude better than your newest offerings.
     
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    To be fair, Maxxis has made exactly 2 good tires since the DHF (DHR 2 and Shorty) so 2018 Maxxis is barely ahead of 15 years ago Maxxis too.



    Their trail bike casings have gotten a million billion times better, I'll grant that.
     
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    WTB: worse than bad.
     
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    The minion ss is an good tire as well, if you have trails/conditions that are suitable for a semi slick.
     
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    I don't think the knob design really matters all that much, as long as there is some siping/hollow-ness. You could use like tiny little penises or something and it'd work just as well. The wierwolf just looked cool, especially in 2.5, that's why we bought it. And then we ripped the casing open a few days later.

    I do like these maxxis icon 2.35s on my xc bike, they measure about 2.4 and are crazy fun. Tire casing is super-supple.
     
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    Those were kind of a @Gary tyre that added “excitement” to every ride. Somehow had a pair on second bike for years and to their credit: at least they never gave the idea that they might be trusted in a corner like the 60a 26x2.3 minions of the same era.
     
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    You apparently haven’t ridden an Aggressor, and as you said, their trail casings are far ahead of the past.
     
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    Yeah, if the lizards hadn’t made the wheel size obsolete!
     
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    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    bought. went back to smoke/dart very quickly. and that tells you something!
     
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    wtb saddles are nice though :)
     
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    They were strange... They would 'slice' you exactly where you didn't want to go when you leaned them over. I had assumed Mark weir rode them differently than you and I.
     
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    I have. They're a fine rear tire but I don't think that they do anything particularly better than a DHF, except maybe a bit of rolling resistance if you insist on a 2.5 rear tire.
     
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    True statement.
     
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    that wtb nano that came with my bombtrack gravel bike runs pretty good on gravel
     
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    True, I've thousands of miles on Nano's, they last forever.