This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Wow.
I wonder why he won't name the shop? 
He did. Check the comments.I wonder why he won't name the shop?
what's the tldr on that?
Angle grinder is a fine instrument for cutting incorrectly cut and badly laced spokes in situ.
According to BicycleFuckingRetailerandIndustryFuckingNews....
3 PERCENT. While E-bikes are the FASTEST GROWING SEGMENT!!!!!!!! They now realize a grand total of 3%, that's .03 of all units sold, according to the latest numbers by bicycle whore and prostitute news.
While, at the same time accounting for 93% (that's .93) of all industry news.
Good thing there's nothing new in 97% of the rest of the industry. Fuck that.
3 PERCENT. While E-bikes are the FASTEST GROWING SEGMENT!!!!!!!! They now realize a grand total of 3%, that's .03 of all units sold, according to the latest numbers by bicycle whore and prostitute news.
While, at the same time accounting for 93% (that's .93) of all industry news.
Good thing there's nothing new in 97% of the rest of the industry. Fuck that.
Now if only we could limit the bitching about E-bikes to a level proportional to their market share.
well, ya. That was more about what's wrong with the industry.......I can't wait for E-nterbike. The amount of E-ttention to this segment will be E-normous.
Then why even go there? In my opinion events like Roc d'Azur, Dirtmasters Winterberg or Bike Festival Garda would be far more fitting.
I just took a glance at all the Bicycle Retailer issues for this year i count a total of three cover stories that have anything at all to do with E-mobility, with one of them actually being about gravel bikes. Now I'm no mathematician, but given that they have 2-3 major stories per issue the coverage of E-Bikes appears to be more in the 5-10% percent range.
It's not like this hasn't been discussed ad nauseam and taking into account the actual miniscule market share I'd say we've already filled our quota for the year.
I'm also participating in a Spanish forum, and in the Rallón R4 thread the number of middle aged guys dropping them in favor of some eTurd is really worrying. The main reasons posted in that thread to justify the change are lack of time to ride and not suffering in the uphills
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Hmmm... this sounds familiar. Not naming any names.<snip> The main reasons posted in that thread to justify the change are lack of time to ride and not suffering in the uphills
@Toshi
I want an e-bike so I can Strava the shit out of hill climbs and KOM that shit! That'll fuck up the whole point of about 99.4% of users and why they use it.
Yeah - but then you'll have to start arguing with everybody about what "mode" you used, and how much battery you had left,
I'm averaging 1 negative e-bike interaction per week on my local trails right now. This is no longer a philosophical e-argument for the MTBR pedants.
5-10% of the riding community is A LOT if most of em are fuckin up in some way.
None of the eMTBers appear to be:
1) long-time, highly skilled MTB riders who recently got kids and got fat, 2) your ripper ex-MotoTrials grandpa who has bad hips but still wants to shred, 3) some Euro Enduro Pro you've never heard of having a bit of a laugh.
Which is odd, cause the mtb industry has told us that is who is going to ride these things on our trails.
They are all chodes who dont know where they are, which way the trail goes, or how to control their moped.
5-10% of the riding community is A LOT if most of em are fuckin up in some way.
None of the eMTBers appear to be:
1) long-time, highly skilled MTB riders who recently got kids and got fat, 2) your ripper ex-MotoTrials grandpa who has bad hips but still wants to shred, 3) some Euro Enduro Pro you've never heard of having a bit of a laugh.
Which is odd, cause the mtb industry has told us that is who is going to ride these things on our trails.
They are all chodes who dont know where they are, which way the trail goes, or how to control their moped.
I'm not telling those morons I'm on an e-bike. .Yeah - but then you'll have to start arguing with everybody about what "mode" you used, and how much battery you had left,
E-bikes need a new mode: "go 5.7s faster than the current KOM". I might buy that.
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This is quite accurate (especially #1), but I'd add 2 groups:
4) average older people (well into their 50's), which would have a long way to go to get in good enough shape to ride physically demanding trails or that would get discouraged after bonking and crashing due to exhaustion. These people are typically staying on green and blue trails. Personally, I think it's really cool that they can access the sport. I've seen many of these on my local trail and I have never had any problem. They are basically riding at the same speed as regular bikes.
5) Very skilled riders (typically long-time DH shredders) that simply want to go fast all the time (including uphill) and are not afraid of muscling around a 50lbs bike. These people can smoke most of the people on a regular bike anyway. No problem with these guys either as long as they don't go full-stupid like climbing on DH trails. I guess this category is somewhat similar to #3.
I’ve never seen any of these supposed eMTB user groups in real life.
Only kooks on their kook scooters, yardsaleing in the rock garden or ascending the descent
To be fair, these guys are all poaching trails closed to them. I guess I should assume the cool ebikers know not to poach.
Sorry for my rants on this subject.
I’ve said enough.
Only kooks on their kook scooters, yardsaleing in the rock garden or ascending the descent
To be fair, these guys are all poaching trails closed to them. I guess I should assume the cool ebikers know not to poach.
Sorry for my rants on this subject.
I’ve said enough.
Basically, Interbike is close, cheap and easy. I'm going for the 3 day demo fest at Northstar..
Look at the issue I posted. A quick look shows about 80% of the editorial is on ebikes. 4 of the 8 listings in the Contents had e-bikes. And multi page spreads
the only emtbr I've ever seen was a 45-50yo blondie crushing some gravel up at the kingdom trails, which expressly forbids ebikes on their trails. So i'm 100% for etards ruining everything for everybody forever.
assuming the land manager in question allows, i'm kinda down with this demographic. i rode a dialed (stupid expensive) ebike recently, and couldn't deny there are (really) good times to be had on board one of these. opens up lots of opportunities to pack in huge descending vert within a relatively short amount of time (and / or self shuttle, etc).
Ouch, classic Ridemonkey right here:
Step 0: Lizards are releasing new BS innovation
Step 1: RM: Kill it with fire!
Step 2: Some Monkeys tried it and "well, it is not that bad but still feels wrong"
Step 3: first one breaks down and buys it, smashes all his/her KOM, posts glowing review and gets all the chicks. Gets ridiculed by other monkeys, however they secretly test it as well.
Step 4: Suddenly more and more out themselves as users.
Step 5: Well accepted as the second coming of Christ. Monkeys not on the bandwagon get ridiculed.
Step 6: Lizards: wow, we didn't think they buy this BS of ours, but hey! Let us see how far we can push this!
Step 7: Profit!
You are at step 2!
Step 0: Lizards are releasing new BS innovation
Step 1: RM: Kill it with fire!
Step 2: Some Monkeys tried it and "well, it is not that bad but still feels wrong"
Step 3: first one breaks down and buys it, smashes all his/her KOM, posts glowing review and gets all the chicks. Gets ridiculed by other monkeys, however they secretly test it as well.
Step 4: Suddenly more and more out themselves as users.
Step 5: Well accepted as the second coming of Christ. Monkeys not on the bandwagon get ridiculed.
Step 6: Lizards: wow, we didn't think they buy this BS of ours, but hey! Let us see how far we can push this!
Step 7: Profit!
You are at step 2!
If local trails weren't legal for e-bikes there's no way I'd have one or ride one. But they are, and I'm having a lot of fun on mine, like yesterday:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1801245286
https://www.strava.com/activities/1801245286
@Gary ... paging gary to the white courtesy phone ...
What are you gonna do when they become illegal again next January 1st?
can't you just switch off the E and ride it normally? I mean bio powered? I mean, it's just like any other bike, right? Not like it's a motorcycle that doesn't work when the motor is off....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................What are you gonna do when they become illegal again next January 1st?
I sure hope that doesn't happen. If it does then I have a very expensive way to get to work.What are you gonna do when they become illegal again next January 1st?
It just feels like one has a flat tire when the assist is off. 44 lbs and 2.8" tires at 18 psi will do that.
I don't actually have an Ebike. I broke it a month back... the helpline is closed until my warranty replacement arrives
I know. It was kind of a joke. I'm not E-gnorant, ya know.I sure hope that doesn't happen. If it does then I have a very expensive way to get to work.
It just feels like one has a flat tire when the assist is off. 44 lbs and 2.8" tires at 18 psi will do that.
And not against E-bikes. Just against the inordinant industry mantra that they will and are saving the bike industry.
and then everyone has one and it's like doping on the tour. you need it to just keep up...
Sorry about being pedantic. If you do ever make the trip to Europe again, I honestly think the three events I posted above are much more suitable than Eurobike. That show has been getting less attractive for a while, but this year was really terrible - it seemed to have lost much of the atmosphere and attracted far less enthusiasts. And I'm in complete agreement with you that it's just boring to see every manufacturer just slapping a motor on their bike and calling it a day.
It's back motherfuckers !
It's not like I had no bike to ride for the last month.
I just had to pedal them a little bit harder than this thing. You know... like that old fashioned less fun type of mountainbiking everyone did before motors.
are those holes in the box for the lizurds to breathe during shipping?