Whatever it is, it is on Crank Bros rims so it is not meant to be ridden in the woods or on the roxx.
This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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amazing, you safe half the crown weight!
In other words, back when normal people could afford to ski at a resort.
Sram products are die-nooo-mite!
Cause they blow up on the trail.
Kind of, but I remember how tickets went from $30 to around $100 or more. With gas still a few times more expensive than it was, the sport ends up a few times more expensive when people aren't making 2-3x more, like everything else these days (houses, etc.).
seem like...
Now. yes..not so much back in 1995.
Its actually still pretty affordable around here, as long as you're willing to ski at night (after 3pm).
Which actually works out at some places...less people, fewer JOEYS etc etc
Come on marshal, you know better.
That's not a mountain.
You lived near vailland. That was the first $100 lift ticket I ever remember seeing in the late 80s early 90s.
Shows how far ahead of the douchebag curve they really were.
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Haha, my point was that even podunk sledding hills with chair lifts in Wisconsin were making the "buy a season pass it's way cheaper" argument in the early 90's.
And as you know Vail was gorging theselves on $300 buddy passes by the mid 90's.
I bought a "Summit Pass" back in the winter of '96-'97. Was the last year of the expensive pass. I believe we purchsed Winter Park passes the following year for... $249? I may be mis-remembering.
The cheap season pass was probably the only way that we were able pull off any skiing at all during the early to mid '00s what with a gaggle of children. NTTAWWT.
The cheap season pass was probably the only way that we were able pull off any skiing at all during the early to mid '00s what with a gaggle of children. NTTAWWT.
Well it sure did doesn’t help.
Other than I pretty much gave up on winter sports for riding bikes when I moved west.
It’s just not worth the $.
I hate the lineups.
Meh.
Lizards don’t like the cold either.
I think I remember that when I moved in the US in 2003, a season pass for Loon Mtn / Cranmore / Bretton Woods was $350 and my friends were faking college passes to get a students discount at $200. FFWD to 2018, the same pass now costs $1300 and the mountain is moar shitty because of million condos built there since.
my season pass was about $360 and gets me 3 comp days at 6 other mountains, plus 2 more if lodging is included.
but our hill is small, cold, windy and boring. you wouldn't like it.
but our hill is small, cold, windy and boring. you wouldn't like it.
sounds like Loon without the apres-ski bullshit.
Direct mount chain rings.
I get it that when Raceface came up with the idea of a way to mount either a spider OR a chain ring, it was worth patenting. But there's no reason that the mounting design where the chain ring mounts, can't be standardized. There's 100's of derailleurs, but the thread on the mounting bolt is standard across the board.
Hope, Raceface, Sram... Probably FSA, and Shimano too all have different mounts. So if you want a single direct mount ring, it's either by the manufacturer of the crank, or there's a 50/50 chance that Blackspire, One-up or Absolute Black make one.
I get it that when Raceface came up with the idea of a way to mount either a spider OR a chain ring, it was worth patenting. But there's no reason that the mounting design where the chain ring mounts, can't be standardized. There's 100's of derailleurs, but the thread on the mounting bolt is standard across the board.
Hope, Raceface, Sram... Probably FSA, and Shimano too all have different mounts. So if you want a single direct mount ring, it's either by the manufacturer of the crank, or there's a 50/50 chance that Blackspire, One-up or Absolute Black make one.
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On that note, the tools!
The Race Face bottom bracket that came on my bike (which is Cinch), is the same god damn outer diameter of the two Shimano bottom bracket tools that I have. But it has a different spline pattern.
WHY?!
my favorite part is since there is no standard, whenever a new player joins the game they get to come up with their own way of doing it. makes it fun!
imagine how bored the engineers would be if they had to follow a template that made their coolnewshit work with everyone else's shit. or if the marketing people had to just copy and paste 'works with everything else' instead of coming up with new ways to describe the coolnewshit. #26aintdead.
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I'm kind of with you on this. I got sucked into the direct mount scheme, but it doesn't do anything better. In fact, I can't space my chainring inboard because of it. And sometimes it creaks because it's not as sturdy as five arms. It sure is clean, though.
This made me think of Park and Shimano.
I have a tool/wrench that has that plastic star thingie attached to it for the non-drive side bolt on Shimano cranks. The other end is for "most" external Bb's - including Raceface, FSA, Campy, Shimano (well, certain ones) and about 10 others.
https://www.parktool.com/product/bottom-bracket-tool-bbt-9
This ano'd one looks spiffy! But it's useless, cause it fits the same Bb's as the one above and below! I didn't buy this one, but I'm sure many have, just to find out they already have it.
https://www.parktool.com/product/bottom-bracket-tool-bbt-69-2
Not to mention that most of us already have the original external BB tool that fits on a 3/8" drive ratchet or a 1" box wrench that does the same exact fucking thing. Since it's steel and not some fancy ano'd piece of shit aluminum, it can probably remove/install Seven thousand, Fourteen hundred and 11-6 more bottom brackets for fuck sake.
https://www.parktool.com/product/bottom-bracket-tool-bbt-19-2
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interesting, here on the local hill its the other way, skiing with lighted trails costs 2 points per ride up and only 1 point on day time
Naw, that's because it requires like 600lb of torque to to properly torque it, then it doesn't really creak. Problem is, it's damn near impossible to put the amount of torque on it that it requires with any normal tools/setup, such as, what are you going to brace the damn thing with?
But they did use the old shimano BB tool for the interface "standard", which is a cool feature, as lots of us have the old tool hanging around, so props for not inventing a new standard, but damn that torque...
now those were the days. you could get them for even less if you were renewing it...
That's a Sram one. The RaceFace torque spec is 40 Nm.
40 nm = 29.5 ft/lb.
29.5 x 12 = 354 in/lb
Most 3/8" drive torque wrenches go to 250 in/lb., but a 1/2" drive will do ft/lbs and easily do 29 ft lbs/40nm.
29.5 x 12 = 354 in/lb
Most 3/8" drive torque wrenches go to 250 in/lb., but a 1/2" drive will do ft/lbs and easily do 29 ft lbs/40nm.
There are two things bike related that must be torqued to the german torque spec gutentight: reverb internal sealheads and threaded BBs.
