[dan-o]

Brawl breaks out at Bernie Sanders rally over ‘Black Guns Matter’ shirt

A brawl broke out at a Bernie Sanders rally in Colorado on Sunday when a supporter of the Vermont senator confronted another man for wearing a T-shirt that read “Black Guns Matter,&#8221…

nypost.com

 

[SkaredShtles]

Hmmm... NY Post. Do not trust the source.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Hmmm... NY Post. Do not trust the source.

TL;DR: Tempest in a teapot "brawl".

VIDEO: Fight Breaks Out At Bernie Sanders Rally In Colorado

A fight broke out in the middle of the Bernie Sanders rally on Sunday evening at the Colorado Convention Center.

denver.cbslocal.com

The least eye-rolly thing going on in this story is the actual fight.

 

[dan-o]

The least eye-rolly thing going on in this story is the actual fight.

I know, cuz guns.

But the white guy calling the black dude racist is OK.

How dare that guy wear a shirt for a pro-black, justice oriented organization that shares his values. He’s lucky an enlightened Bernie bro was there to educate him.

In the 'Black Guns Matter' Movement, 'Make Racists Afraid Again' Is About Education, Not Violence

Growing up, Maj Toure wasn’t someone you’d immediately describe as a “gun guy.” But being raised in Philadelphia, where he was surrounded by gun violence,...

www.google.com

About | Maj Toure

majtoure.com

 

[Pesqueeb]

I know, cuz guns.

But the white guy calling the black dude racist is OK.

How dare that guy wear a shirt for a pro-black, justice oriented organization that shares his values. He’s lucky an enlightened Bernie bro was there to educate him.

In the 'Black Guns Matter' Movement, 'Make Racists Afraid Again' Is About Education, Not Violence

Growing up, Maj Toure wasn’t someone you’d immediately describe as a “gun guy.” But being raised in Philadelphia, where he was surrounded by gun violence,...

www.google.com

About | Maj Toure

majtoure.com

Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to, you jackass.

 

[stevew]

Hmmm... NY Post. Do not trust the source.

chris matthews....spouting dnc scripture?

 

[jimmydean]

No coloreds, please.

 

[rideit]

I hate the Chinese, because they ruin this forum every night at around 8. Does that make me racist?

 

[Jm_]

I hate the Chinese, because they ruin this forum every night at around 8. Does that make me racist?

Hmm, blaming an entire people? Yeah, pretty much.

 

[rideit]

Okay, okay, just the spammers. And the dog eaters.

 

[Jm_]

Okay, okay, just the spammers. And the dog eaters.

Would try it.

 

[stevew]

 

[johnbryanpeters]

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[stevew]

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the governor of georgia and the guy who shot the jogger....or something like that....

 

[6thElement]

Also appears to have an inflammatory t-shirt criticizing other alternatives to the FSM.

 

[Nick]

that's a different racist.

 

[dan-o]

White Woman Is Fired After Calling Police on Black Man in Central Park (Published 2020)

Video of the incident touched off intense discussions about the history of black people being falsely reported to the police.

www.nytimes.com

 

[stevew]

White Woman Is Fired After Calling Police on Black Man in Central Park (Published 2020)

Video of the incident touched off intense discussions about the history of black people being falsely reported to the police.

www.nytimes.com

end result....she surrenders her dog to the rescue she adopted it from....placed on leave from job.

sucks for the dog...cockers can be hard to place..

 

[Pesqueeb]

end result....she surrenders her dog to the rescue she adopted it from....placed on leave from job.

sucks for the dog...cockers can be hard to place..

Shit canned from her job.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/26/amy-cooper-central-park/?outputType=amp

 

[Nick]

the MN area is going to blow up, and deservedly so.

 

[Pesqueeb]

the MN area is going to blow up, and deservedly so.

Safety first!

 

[stevew]

 

[dan-o]

the MN area is going to blow up, and deservedly so.

Violence again rocks Minneapolis after man’s death; 1 killed

It was the second night of violent protest since the death of George Floyd.

www.politico.com

Arson and looting are always a persuasive argument.

 

[DaveW]

Violence again rocks Minneapolis after man’s death; 1 killed

It was the second night of violent protest since the death of George Floyd.

www.politico.com

Arson and looting are always a persuasive argument.

Well rolling over an taking it from the cops seems to have been an even less "persuasive argument" so far.

 

[dan-o]

Well rolling over an taking it from the cops seems to have been an even less "persuasive argument" so far.

Well burning your own community will certainly show them.
Worked for Detroit.

 

[Nick]

Violence again rocks Minneapolis after man’s death; 1 killed

It was the second night of violent protest since the death of George Floyd.

www.politico.com

Arson and looting are always a persuasive argument.

Well burning your own community will certainly show them.
Worked for Detroit.

I get it and I shake my head at 'that' part of this. There are also many peaceful protests and those continue too.

But...
I think my support of law enforcement is pretty well documented over the years. I can't think of any circumstances based on what I've seen with my own eyes and know of the event, threat, etc., where I believe that kneeling cop isn't guilty of involuntary manslaughter at best, second degree murder at worst. Maybe short of an autopsy saying he didn't die from as a result of that event.

If that were you or me we would already have been arrested solely on the video.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Police culture has evolved to be military, paranoid, and hermetic. They're fundamentally overpaid thugs.

 

[Fool]

America’s Police Prepared for the Wrong Enemy

Militarized U.S. police forces need to go back to serving communities first.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[Nick]

They're fundamentally overpaid thugs.

Strongly disagree. There are thousands of interactions every day between cops and people of every color that go without incident. Consider that a typical day of a cop in rural Vermont is a lot different than a day on the west side of Chicago, or any other high crime area.

 

[dan-o]

I get it and I shake my head at 'that' part of this. There are also many peaceful protests and those continue too.

But...
I think my support of law enforcement is pretty well documented over the years. I can't think of any circumstances based on what I've seen with my own eyes and know of the event, threat, etc., where I believe that kneeling cop isn't guilty of involuntary manslaughter at best, second degree murder at worst. Maybe short of an autopsy saying he didn't die from as a result of that event.

If that were you or me we would already have been arrested solely on the video.

I agree and the root cause is qualified immunity, something the USSC refused to take up earlier this month.

The Supreme Court Broke Police Accountability. Now It Has the Chance to Fix It.

George Floyd’s killing by Minneapolis police officers shows the damage the court has wrought.

slate.com

Short Circuit 134 (5/15/20) - Institute for Justice

Is the Supreme Court finally going to do something about qualified immunity? Use iTunes? itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/short…cuit/id309062019 Use Android (RSS)? feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundclo…247/sounds.rss Newsletter: ij.org/about-us/shortcircuit/ Want to email us? […]

ij.org

There's no question this was excessive force.
My point is burning down/looting businesses with zero correlation is a bad look and will exacerbate the issue of retail deserts in black communities as a result.

Yes there are peaceful protests.
The bad actors here aren't protesters though, they're opportunists.

 

[kidwoo]

My point is burning down/looting businesses with zero correlation is a bad look and will exacerbate the issue of retail deserts in black communities as a result.

Yes there are peaceful protests.
The bad actors here aren't protesters though, they're opportunists.

As opposed to what exactly? "you'll be hearing from our attorney?"




It's still a better reason to break shit than a hockey game for a bunch of nerdy white people.

 

[dan-o]

As opposed to what exactly? "you'll be hearing from our attorney?"




It's still a better reason to break shit than a hockey game for a bunch of nerdy white people.

Fucking unhinged canadians

 

[kidwoo]

Fucking unhinged canadians

Why do you think canadian whites destroy their own community like that? It's a bad look I say. It's just going to contribute to the poutine deserts of white urban areas.

 

[dan-o]

Why do you think canadian whites destroy their own community like that? It's a bad look I say. It's just going to contribute to the poutine deserts of white urban areas.

You should go loot the snowmobile shop to protest the covid superspreaders in tahoe.
That'll turn things around.
TLM

 

[kidwoo]

You should go loot the snowmobile shop AIR BnBs to protest the covid superspreaders in tahoe.
That'll turn things around.

wanna come?

we can hire you for the remodels after trashing the places




People smashing shit to a degree is an expression of helplessness when their own government hunts them and they feel powerless to do anything about it. It does get a little old listening to white people with some degree of means look down their noses and comment on 'appearances'.

It's not about looking palatable to you.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Strongly disagree. There are thousands of interactions every day between cops and people of every color that go without incident. Consider that a typical day of a cop in rural Vermont is a lot different than a day on the west side of Chicago, or any other high crime area.

I have lived in a number of urban areas, some high crime. The Vermont State Police are extremely polite and well trained and still shoot a lot of people that they shouldn't. Local police are all over the map in their behavior.

I regard New York and Massachusetts state police as rotten to the core, as are the New York City police and transit police. They're also criminally violent and racist (this for the organizations as a group; I know that individual behavior will differ).

 

[dan-o]

wanna come?

we can hire you for the remodels after trashing the places




People smashing shit to a degree is an expression of helplessness when their own government hunts them and they feel powerless to do anything about it. It does get a little old listening to white people with some degree of means look down their noses and comment on 'appearances'.

It's not about looking palatable to you.

I'm in, just leave a good sled for me.

I understand the reasoning for their frustration.
Want to protest? Have at it, but keep it directed to those you're protesting.
PD? Mayor? Go for it.

The appearance comment has nothing to do with 'looking down my nose'.
A cause that should focus solely on the behavior of the MPD is now overshadowed by images of looters walking out with flatscreens.
It's moronic no matter what color you are.

 

[dan-o]

@kidwoo case in point:

Instead of this being the image shown of the front page:

or this

Or this

We have this (nyt)

This (wapo)

This (latimes)

 

[kidwoo]

I don't know what you mean

That aspect of what gets covered is certainly bullshit.



Regarding "appearances" to you or me that's kind of the problem. We a see a media geared to get a reaction out of us. It's not really our gig though.

But I'd argue the shenanigans are working. You hear how quickly a federal investigation is now moving?

 

[jonKranked]

"Some context for people who don't live here: Target HQ is in Minneapolis. Lake St. Target, which got looted tonight, is literally Target's experimental site for loss prevention & surveillance policies geared toward poor people. Very few people in the neighborhood like that Target "

https://twitter.com/IanColdwater/status/1265867904844693505