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jonKranked said:
the drivers too apparently

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NASCAR driver Ray Ciccarelli is done with NASCAR, citing politics - Racing News

NASCAR driver Ray Ciccarelli is done with NASCAR, citing politics. It's been a busy and highly political week for NASCAR.
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I saw this story yesterday. Because I have two (mostly) functioning brain hemispheres, I don't know much about NASCAR so I looked this guy up. He's basically a tier 3 driver that barely manages to qualify most weekends in the truck series. NASCAR management probably had to Google him too. Screams more "desperate plea for attention and sponsors" than anything.
 
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Pesqueeb said:
I saw this story yesterday. Because I have two (mostly) functioning brain hemispheres, I don't know much about NASCAR so I looked this guy up. He's basically a tier 3 driver that barely manages to qualify most weekends in the truck series. NASCAR management probably had to Google him too. Screams more "desperate plea for attention and sponsors" than anything.
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Dude you KNOW he's going to be on fox news in the next 48 hours.
 
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Pesqueeb said:
I saw this story yesterday. Because I have two (mostly) functioning brain hemispheres, I don't know much about NASCAR so I looked this guy up. He's basically a tier 3 driver that barely manages to qualify most weekends in the truck series. NASCAR management probably had to Google him too. Screams more "desperate plea for attention and sponsors" than anything.
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i was googling that guy but got sidetracked laughing when i came across this:

 
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Pesqueeb said:
I saw this story yesterday. Because I have two (mostly) functioning brain hemispheres, I don't know much about NASCAR so I looked this guy up. He's basically a tier 3 driver that barely manages to qualify most weekends in the truck series. NASCAR management probably had to Google him too. Screams more "desperate plea for attention and sponsors" than anything.
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Westy

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Pesqueeb said:
I saw this story yesterday. Because I have two (mostly) functioning brain hemispheres, I don't know much about NASCAR so I looked this guy up. He's basically a tier 3 driver that barely manages to qualify most weekends in the truck series. NASCAR management probably had to Google him too. Screams more "desperate plea for attention and sponsors" than anything.
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Perhaps there is a place for the Confederate flag in NASCAR. Instead of waving the checkered flag when everyone finishes, they can pull it out to wave at the losers?
 
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Westy said:
Perhaps there is a place for the Confederate flag in NASCAR. Instead of waving the checkered flag when everyone finishes, they can pull it out to wave at the losers?
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They still have the last lap flag.

Love the new avatar BTW. We should definitely get together and burn something someday.

kidwoo said:
Nah. this all got solved when obama get elected. No more racism.
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Prescient, the OP was not.
 
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jimmydean said:
So this is why we can't have nice things?

www.politicususa.com

Ohio Senator Asks if "Colored People" Who "Don’t Wash Their Hands As Well" Are Responsible for Coronavirus Spread

During a hearing on whether to declare racism a public health crisis, Ohio Senator Steve Huffman (R), who also happens to be an emergency room physician, asked if “the colored population” is more disproportionately impacted
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Reminds me of all the quack 'doctors' posting BS about covid for youtube vids. I'm sure some of his best patients are black so he can't be racist.


Speaking of ohio.........
Everyone should do themselves a favor and watch this.

 
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Mysteriously posted "professor" with no name deploys "look over there" to to further absolve white people of responsibility.

If there's one thing I know about "professors" it's that they never want their name on anything and use anonymous file hosts that look straight out of 1998. Ooooh 'berkely' too! Seems legit :rofl:


You think a black™ history™ professor™ would write this?: If we claim that the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans?

Because anyone who knows the subject knows the vastly different histories of each of those groups, why each exist in the US, and what the societal structure was that brought them in, or in the case of natives, worked to tear down their existing society, not prevent the building up of one that affects everyone else.


Just askin questions™ y'all. Just askin questions™. Don't silence my dissent. :rofl:



edit: now how did I know I'd find this here? :rofl:

Anonymous Berkeley Professor Shreds BLM Injustice Narrative With Damning Facts And Logic

www.infowars.com www.infowars.com
 
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Westy

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kidwoo said:
Speaking of deliberate bullshit.

www.seattletimes.com

Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle's protests, Capitol Hill Organized Protest

The image Fox used was a digitally altered mashup of photos from different days, taken by different photographers in Seattle.
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I have had several former coworkers check in on me as they literally thought all of Seattle was under armed control of ANTIFA.

There is a group small group of senior citizens and middle school kids that picket across the street from me between 4 and 5 PM every day. They accidentally blocked the entrance to the fire station yesterday. A fireman politely asked them to move down the street a bit and they politely complied.
 
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Westy said:
There is a group small group of senior citizens and middle school kids that picket across the street from me between 4 and 5 PM every day. They accidentally blocked the entrance to the fire station yesterday. A fireman politely asked them to move down the street a bit and they politely complied.
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UTTER FUCKING CHAOS!!!!!!!!!


I have no idea how that simple civic interaction could have possibly occurred without no less than 20 roided out frat boys in blue costumes beating the shit out of someone and accusing them of something. Fake news.
 
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kidwoo said:
UTTER FUCKING CHAOS!!!!!!!!!


I have no idea how that simple civic interaction could have possibly occurred without no less than 20 roided out frat boys in blue costumes beating the shit out of someone and accusing them of something. Fake news.
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C'mon, let's be real. To be a frat boy you have to be smart enough to get into college. And some of them would fail the maximum IQ requirement.
 
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Westy said:
C'mon, let's be real. To be a frat boy you have to be smart enough to get into college.
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Dubya went to yale
Trump......I guess drove by wharton or something......nevermind
Jared Kushner's dad bought Harvard



You most certainly do NOT have to be smart to have access to fraternities. Then again none of those pretty boys would ever stoop to being a public servant. There's another lesson to be learned there somewhere between your post and mine.....lemme finish off this bottle of wine and I'm sure it'll come to me. But I think we're both right. Or at least you are and I'm drunk so same thing.


Did you ever come across a frat with the letters SAE, sigma alpha epsilon? We called them same assholes everywhere because no matter what the campus, the date rape charges were the same. Statute of limitations is over now so I can admit that a friend of mine bear maced some of them while I set the lawn on fire. But those dicks were definitely future cops. Both Georgia Tech and University of FL for my grand sampling of two.
 
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kidwoo said:
Dubya went to yale
Trump......I guess drove by wharton or something......nevermind
Jarad Kushner's dad bought Harvard



You most certainly do NOT have to be smart to have access to fraternities. Then again none of those pretty boys would ever stoop to being a public servant. There's another lesson to be learned there somewhere between your post and mine.....lemme finish off this bottle of wine and I'm sure it'll come to me. But I think we're both right. Or at least you are and I'm drunk so same thing.


Did you ever come across a frat with the letters SAE, sigma alpha epsilon? We called them same assholes everywhere because no matter what the campus, the date rape charges were the same. Statute of limitations is over now so I can admit that a friend of mine bear maced some of them while I set the lawn on fire. But those dicks were definitely future cops. Both Georgia Tech and University of FL for my grand sampling of two.
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I think it is a mistake to discredit the intellect of people like Trump and GW. They weren't smart enough to fool you or me, but they fooled half of this country.

Anyway my college experience was a little different from most as I went to a small engineering school in a small town in a frozen wasteland. SAE was the society of automotive engineers and most fraternities looked more like the society of automotive engineers. However there was one frat that was basically the lacross team and full of fascist douche-bros. Rape accusations and rumors of bestiality were a common thing. They held a pig roast every year and the rumor was that a live pig was purchased the day before and was fucked and tortured to death. Wasn't too surprised to read this a few years after I graduated.

Clarkson Pulls Fraternity Recognition | Clarkson University

POTSDAM, N.Y. -- Clarkson University Vice President
www.clarksonuniversity.org www.clarksonuniversity.org

That fraternity in particular had strong alumni roots the university including a significant money pipeline and poor behavior was ignored for decades until a student died in a hazing event and the university got sued for allowing that kind of shit to happen.
 
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My college was fancy enough we had no fraternities. We had finals clubs instead, and I am neither white nor old money enough to be involved in that shit.
 
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kidwoo said:
Mysteriously posted "professor" with no name deploys "look over there" to
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Unlike the anonymous 'police officer' which was entirely believed and even defended when people here questioned it.

I didn't find that on infowars, but did post it specifically to troll the hypocrisy present here.
 
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Unlike the anonymous 'police officer' which was entirely believed and even defended when people here questioned it.

I didn't find that on infowars, but did post it specifically to troll the hypocrisy present here.
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I believe I was the first person to question that is was't written by a cop, I am curious to see who you think defended it. Closest would be folks saying that the description of cop culture was consistent with their experiences, including mine. I would put money that it was written by a journalist who did research to try and accurately describe cop culture which probably included a lot of cherry-picking to align with the eventual conclusion and opinion piece. Hell many of the descriptions align with one of theirs/ours.

manimal said:
cool...so now we have to be a psychiatrist too! :thumb: :rolleyes:

add that to the 50 hats the public expects us to wear.

-social worker
-marriage counselor
-track star
-competitive level shooter
-EMT
-Hazmat specialist
-Lawyer
-Bomb technician
-Juvenile counselor
-Admin clerk
-Professional driver
-Public punching bag
-Defensive tactics specialist
-........................................................

all for about half of what a good truck driver can make! who wouldn't want this job!

for the record: an autistic person can whoop your ass just as bad as someone without a social/mental handicap.
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I doubted the content as it didn't read like what a police officer would write unless they followed up their career as a professional writer or political scientist of which there was no mention of. But a former cop saying these things has some very good reasons to remain anonymous as not only his description, but what we see everyday in the news lately is that police departments act a la cosa nostra.

The very reason I question the validity of that opinion piece is the same I would question the validity of a professor writing anything anonymously. First of all there are only a handful of candidates that could have written that based on their description, not much point in claiming to be anonymous when people can suspect you or a just a few of your colleagues. Secondly it goes against pretty much every academic standard. A professor has a professional obligation to publish information in an open manner inviting responses and open discussion to advance the topic. I don't know much about humanities but in STEM subjects one is expected to publish results no matter how popular they are with the author or larger community. Accademia is actually setup to protect unpopular opinions, that is the whole point in tenure.

Good chance both articles are fake, don't pick and choose what you think is real based on how much you want it to be true.
 
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I believe I was the first person to question that is was't written by a cop, I am curious to see who you think defended it. Closest would be folks saying that the description of cop culture was consistent with their experiences, including mine. I would put money that it was written by a journalist who did research to try and accurately describe cop culture which probably included a lot of cherry-picking to align with the eventual conclusion and opinion piece. Hell many of the descriptions align with one of theirs/ours.




I doubted the content as it didn't read like what a police officer would write unless they followed up their career as a professional writer or political scientist of which there was no mention of. But a former cop saying these things has some very good reasons to remain anonymous as not only his description, but what we see everyday in the news lately is that police departments act a la cosa nostra.

The very reason I question the validity of that opinion piece is the same I would question the validity of a professor writing anything anonymously. First of all there are only a handful of candidates that could have written that based on their description, not much point in claiming to be anonymous when people can suspect you or a just a few of your colleagues. Secondly it goes against pretty much every academic standard. A professor has a professional obligation to publish information in an open manner inviting responses and open discussion to advance the topic. I don't know much about humanities but in STEM subjects one is expected to publish results no matter how popular they are with the author or larger community. Accademia is actually setup to protect unpopular opinions, that is the whole point in tenure.
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I questioned the cop because it was an equally broad, absurd laundry list of grievances as the ‘professors’. Both were too perfectly crafted for their messaging. I don’t buy the anonymity for safety angle though.

You were simply the OP of that iirc, and I don’t necessarily ascribe posts to ones personal views.

Re the academia aspect of your post I disagree. I see the bias in my sons educations, have tenured prof friends at both CU and Columbia who acknowledge it, and an academic wife whose organization is currently battling cancel culture.

In fact my wife is firing someone this week who couldn’t separate her own political views with those of her role as social media coordinator for the institution and went rogue. Several others were reprimanded for similar temper tantrums.

Your final point was made in the ‘letter’ too, I believe.
 
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dan-o said:
I questioned the cop because it was an equally broad, absurd laundry list of grievances as the ‘professors’. Both were too perfectly crafted for their messaging. I don’t buy the anonymity for safety angle though.

You were simply the OP of that iirc, and I don’t necessarily ascribe posts to ones personal views.

Re the academia aspect of your post I disagree. I see the bias in my sons educations, have tenured prof friends at both CU and Columbia who acknowledge it, and an academic wife whose organization is currently battling cancel culture.

In fact my wife is firing someone this week who couldn’t separate her own political views with those of her role as social media coordinator for the institution and went rogue. Several others were reprimanded for similar temper tantrums.

Your final point was made in the ‘letter’ too, I believe.
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I wasn't trying to make any point about a lack of bias in academia I am making the point that a professor writing anonymously about his field of study does not align with professional academic standards which leads me to question the legitimacy of the source.

I will call out one thing the author said as repugnant, although never stating it but implying what happened to Floyd was justified because he may have commuted a crime or had a criminal history or was a bad person. I will not go into detail but will remind everyone of these two things.

The 6th Amendment
The 8th Amendment

That goes with Trumps assertation that the old dude who got put into the hospital by cops deserved it because he "may have been an ANTIFA instigator". First of all the assumption is rediculous, secondly it doesn't fucking matter if he was or not. The police do not have to right to kill or injure people because they have committed a crime. it is the judicial systems responsibility to determine guilt and punishment. But then I guess only the 2nd amendment means anything to most people who never have any of their other constitutional rights impinged.



Also I am curious to what bias and in what subjects your son is witnessing bias? I have two degrees from two universities and the closest thing to bias I can remember is a professor declaring that Liebnitz invented calculus not Newton and a general bias towards teaching linear and continuous systems over non-linear and discrete ones. Of course studying fields where mathematical proofs tend to resolve differing opinions quickly. I do see the possiblility for bias in soft fields where subjectivity is necessary.
 
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dan-o said:
I questioned the cop because it was an equally broad, absurd laundry list of grievances as the ‘professors’. Both were too perfectly crafted for their messaging. I don’t buy the anonymity for safety angle though.

You were simply the OP of that iirc, and I don’t necessarily ascribe posts to ones personal views.

Re the academia aspect of your post I disagree. I see the bias in my sons educations, have tenured prof friends at both CU and Columbia who acknowledge it, and an academic wife whose organization is currently battling cancel culture.

In fact my wife is firing someone this week who couldn’t separate her own political views with those of her role as social media coordinator for the institution and went rogue. Several others were reprimanded for similar temper tantrums.

Your final point was made in the ‘letter’ too, I believe.
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I would also like to address the authors comments about proof that the system does not affect minorities by comparing arrest rates of other minorities. I addressed this in earlier comments how that other communities have been discriminated against but not nearly to the extent that Native and African Americans have. The author also fails to realize that most Native Americans living on reservations have their own police and justice systems.

I would also like to point out another difference between blacks and other minorities. We have not been trained to fear Aisians or Jews. Part of the systematic racism against black people is making you afraid of them. In South Carolina's declaration of secession they stated a great fear that if slavery were abolished that the former slaves would rise against their former masters and kill them. Despite the fact that poor whites also suffered due to the system of slavery, they were recruited by the confederacy by telling them that if the slaves were freed their wives and children would be raped and murdered. That storyline has been used again and again and has become pervasive in American Society.
 
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