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N8 v2.0

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Campaign 2004: Bush Opens Double-Digit Lead
Time.com | 3 Sep

TIME Poll: Among likely voters, 52% would vote for President George Bush, while 41% would vote for John Kerry and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader

New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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N8 said:
Campaign 2004: Bush Opens Double-Digit Lead
TIME Poll: Among likely voters, 52% would vote for President George Bush, while 41% would vote for John Kerry and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader
Time.com | 3 Sep

New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6.


hmm, well there is nothing more true than "nations elect the presidents they deserve".
 

Changleen

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Thus proving that 52% of Americans are just as stupid, narrow minded, wilfully ignorant dicks as you, N8. :rolleyes:
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Changleen said:
Thus proving that 52% of Americans are just as stupid, narrow minded, wilfully ignorant dicks as you, N8. :rolleyes:


hahaha, a bit of a paradox in that quote.

anyway, none of that 52% come up close, n8 is still the reigning champ, there is none like him. you are special mate. :p
 

Toshi

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ALEXIS_DH said:
hmm, well there is nothing more true than "nations elect the presidents they deserve".
if bush wins without rigging the vote (supreme court? diebold? intimidation of liberal-swinging constituencies?) then yes, we deserve what we get.
 

N8 v2.0

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Toshi said:
if bush wins without rigging the vote (supreme court? diebold? intimidation of liberal-swinging constituencies?) then yes, we deserve what we get.

Ah, I see you've taken my advice and are already gearing up for Bush's victory with some liberal/dim "Bush Stole the Election" spin-spin...

:p
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Toshi said:
if bush wins without rigging the vote (supreme court? diebold? intimidation of liberal-swinging constituencies?) then yes, we deserve what we get.



well, with all these clues about an inminent rigging, the past experience with the bush bros, and the acceptance of the unlevel playing field (because nobody has seriously done anything to block it or something).

even if he wins because by cheating, in a partial way you still deserve what you get, if he does it again in right under your nose.


like if you get raped twice in the same well known dangerous neighborhood by the same person at the same time, and at likely circumstances.

first time might be bad luck. 2nd time, you are kinda gay.
 

Toshi

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ALEXIS_DH said:
first time might be bad luck. 2nd time, you are kinda gay.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
 

N8 v2.0

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Damn Bush... stealing the polls....


NEWSWEEK POLL: REPUBLICAN CONVENTION 2004


  • Bush/Cheney Lead Kerry/Edwards 54 to 43 Percent; in a Three-Way Trial Heat, Bush/Cheney Receive 13-Point Margin Bounce

  • Bush Approval Rating Rises to 52 Percent; First Time Above 50 Since January; Majority (53%) Wants to See Him Re-Elected-Highest Since May 2003
  • 27 Percent of Registered Voters Think Bush/Cheney Campaign Is Behind Swift Boat Ads

NEW YORK, Sept. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Immediately following the Republican National Convention in New York, the latest Newsweek Poll shows that, in a two-way presidential trial heat, the Bush/Cheney ticket would win over a Kerry/Edwards ticket by 54 percent vs. 43 percent among registered voters. In a three-way trial heat, including Green Party Candidate Ralph Nader, the
Bush/Cheney ticket would still win 52 percent to 41 percent for Kerry/Edwards
and 3 percent for Nader/Camejo among registered voters. That represents a
13-point margin bounce for Bush/Cheney since an August 5-10 poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International for the Pew Research Center.

And even though more Americans (49%) say they are dissatisfied with the
way things are going in the U.S. at this time (43% are satisfied), President
George W. Bush's approval rating has gone up to 52 percent, a seven-point
increase since the last Newsweek Poll (July 29-30), and the first time it's
topped 50 percent since January. Also 53 percent of registered voters say the
would like to see President Bush re-elected to another term. The last time a
majority of Americans wanted to see the president re-elected was May 2003.

In comparing the two presidential candidates, more registered voters think
President Bush has strong leadership qualities than Kerry (65% vs. 47%), is
more honest and ethical (62% vs. 47%), says what he believes and not just what people want to hear (66% vs. 42%), would trust him to make the right decisions during an international crisis (57% vs. 44%), shares their values (54% vs. 42%), and is personally likeable (67% vs. 59%). In addition, more registered voters think President Bush would do a better job than Sen. Kerry on various issues: terrorism and homeland security (60% vs. 32%), the situation in Iraq (55% vs. 37%), foreign policy (54% vs. 38%), taxes (52% vs. 38%), economy (49% vs. 43%), education (48% vs. 42%), and gay marriage (44% vs. 36%). More people say Sen. Kerry would do a better job than President Bush on healthcare, including Medicare (45% vs. 43%) and the environment (50% vs. 36%).

Two months before the election, more registered voters (28%) say terrorism and homeland security is the most important issue in determining their vote.

Twenty-one percent say it's the economy, 13 percent say healthcare and only 11 percent say the situation in Iraq. On that subject, a majority of registered voters (55%) think that the U.S. did the right thing in talking military action in Iraq, though 50 percent say the war has not made Americans safer from terrorism (45% think it has). And, among registered voters, 44 percent think Saddam Hussein's regime was not directly involved in 9-11 (42% say it was).

Despite the four-day convention, a strong 60-percent majority of
registered voters say they saw none of (32%) or very little (28%) coverage of
the RNC on television last week. Only 40 percent say they saw some of it
(24%) or a great deal (16%). And only 36 percent say they now have a more
favorable opinion of the Republican Party, with 27 percent saying they have a
less favorable opinion. Of Independents, 29 percent said they have a more
favorable opinion of the Republicans and 27 percent said less favorable.
Following the Democratic convention in July, 41 percent who said they had a
more favorable opinion of the Democrats. Only 24 percent said they had a less favorable opinion. And of the 45 percent of registered voters who said they watched all or part of the President's speech, 37 percent said they had a more favorable opinion of him, while 18 percent said it was less favorable.

As to the presidential candidates' military service, though 75 percent of
registered voters say what they've seen or heard about Bush's military service
will not have much effect on their vote, and 62 percent say the same about
Kerry's military service in Vietnam, 75 percent of registered voters have seen
or heard about the recent TV Ads sponsored by a veterans' group questioning
Kerry's military record. And 21 percent say those ads are generally accurate.
Thirty-nine percent say they are misleading or distorted. Only 25 percent are
not aware of those ads. Twenty-seven percent of registered voters think the
Bush/Cheney campaign is behind the ads, while 38 percent think they were
produced independently. (However, 26 percent of military households who have seen or heard about John Kerry's military record say they are less likely to vote for him).

Looking ahead to the next presidential campaign, a majority of registered
voters (50%) said they would like to see former New York City Mayor Rudy
Giuliani run for president in 2008 (65% of Republicans), followed by Arizona
Sen. John McCain (48%, 47% of Republicans), and Arnold Schwarzenegger (22%, 30% of Republicans), if the Constitution were changed to allow foreign-born U.S. citizens to run.

This poll is part of the September 13 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands
Monday, September 6). For this Newsweek Poll, Princeton Survey Research
Associates International interviewed 1,008 adults aged 18 and older on Sept
 

ohio

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N8 said:
And, among registered voters, 44 percent think Saddam Hussein's regime was not directly involved in 9-11 (42% say it was).
I try to give the American people credit... really, I do. But.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? 42 percent of the voting public (voters! the ones that care) are perfectly happy with a lie that even N8 doesn't believe.

Folks are entitled to their opinions (i.e. Bush has stronger leadership qualities, etc.) but it boggles my mind that when you poll people on FACTS (and hardly obscue ones at that... this is pivotal) 42% of them have it wrong. Hats off to the Republican propaganda machine... they are unquestionably better at it than the Dems.