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Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Got his own woodworking show on PBS where he makes everything using old hand tools. Nary a power tool to be seen. It's fascinating to see how things used to be done.
He uses cameras. Would be more authentic with a rapid succession of daguerreotypes with hand written subtitles.
 

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
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My next harbor tool.

 

CrabJoe StretchPants

Reincarnated Crab Walking Head Spinning Bruce Dick
Nov 30, 2003
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My next harbor tool.

I'm assuming the set screw is what keeps the pads at the rim in place? Is it friction held or do you need to loosen/tighten to adjust?
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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I hate most blow moulded cases and foam inserts because they waste so much room.
I don't want a toolbox the size of a small car to house everything.
Ditto. I feel bad throwing them in recycling immediately, but they are simply too big and poorly designed.

Just gimme one of these with a wrench set and I'm good.

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HardtailHack

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Ditto. I feel bad throwing them in recycling immediately, but they are simply too big and poorly designed.

Just gimme one of these with a wrench set and I'm good.

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I have to get a bunch of the Ernst gear, post was too dear so I have to take a trip to go get it.
I have a couple of twist lock socket rails and they are great, as long as the people you work with know that they are twist lock. I like mix and match socket sets because I use cheap sockets with decent ratchets and extensions.
 

StiHacka

Compensating for something
My next harbor tool.

I have the park tool one and I never use it. Eyeballing it in the frame FTW (then you flip the wheel over to unfuck it).
 

HardtailHack

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not blow molded, tolerances on that process are nowhere near what's required for those kinds of cases.
I bought a cordless die grinder a while ago and the blow molded box is the most idiotic contraption I own, it must be three foot long, it can store the tool with a battery on it, four spare batteries, a charger and extra bits of whatever, damn die grinder came with a 6mm collet too! The cordless angle grinder in the same brand came in a sensible size case with a nice styrene insert but only has room for one spare battery, damn thing will kill a 5.2AH battery in under 10 minutes.
I have been trying to find a decent set of 3/4" Metric impact sockets that don't have overly thick walls, comes in a steel case and has the sizes stamped in each socket rather than laser etched.
Genius Sockets look good but I'd have to make a steel case which I'd rather not have to do.
With these sorts of cases you end up double stacking them and they fail even quicker.
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CrabJoe StretchPants

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Any local monkeys interested in a DAG2.2 brand new for cheap? Ordered it about a week before they came out with the new version and only used it once. The packaging is long gone and I did use it so trying to return it would feel morally wrong, even though it is Amazon.

I know @StiHacka doesn't need it, because he just uses a sundial, a bunch of zip ties and a loaf of bread.
 

jonKranked

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I bought a cordless die grinder a while ago and the blow molded box is the most idiotic contraption I own, it must be three foot long, it can store the tool with a battery on it, four spare batteries, a charger and extra bits of whatever, damn die grinder came with a 6mm collet too! The cordless angle grinder in the same brand came in a sensible size case with a nice styrene insert but only has room for one spare battery, damn thing will kill a 5.2AH battery in under 10 minutes.
I have been trying to find a decent set of 3/4" Metric impact sockets that don't have overly thick walls, comes in a steel case and has the sizes stamped in each socket rather than laser etched.
Genius Sockets look good but I'd have to make a steel case which I'd rather not have to do.
With these sorts of cases you end up double stacking them and they fail even quicker.
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that. is. not. blow. molded. resolution and tolerances on the blow molding process are a joke. you can't make a functional or even quasi-functional case from blow molding.
 

jonKranked

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Any local monkeys interested in a DAG2.2 brand new for cheap? Ordered it about a week before they came out with the new version and only used it once. The packaging is long gone and I did use it so trying to return it would feel morally wrong, even though it is Amazon.

I know @StiHacka doesn't need it, because he just uses a sundial, a bunch of zip ties and a loaf of bread.
if i hadn't just bought the Abbey version i'd hit you up.
 

maxyedor

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@HardtailHack the cheap ones are multi piece assemblies of thermoformed plastics. The nicer (higher quality & expensive) ones are injection molded. fun fact: all pelican cases are injection molded.
I have tons of tools that came in cases just like these, I was always under the impression that they were blow molded, hence why the cases are such absolute shit. https://www.plattcases.com/BLOW-MOLDED-CASES-s/5.htm

I do like that Milwaukee is now selling their high end tool kits in injection molded Pack-Out containers. Still don't like storing everything in dedicated containers, but at least the cases are useful for something and not just land-fill fodder.
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

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I have tons of tools that came in cases just like these, I was always under the impression that they were blow molded, hence why the cases are such absolute shit. https://www.plattcases.com/BLOW-MOLDED-CASES-s/5.htm

I do like that Milwaukee is now selling their high end tool kits in injection molded Pack-Out containers. Still don't like storing everything in dedicated containers, but at least the cases are useful for something and not just land-fill fodder.
Just because cases are sold as BLOW MOLDED CASES, doesn't mean they're blow molded cases.
 

jonKranked

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I have tons of tools that came in cases just like these, I was always under the impression that they were blow molded, hence why the cases are such absolute shit. https://www.plattcases.com/BLOW-MOLDED-CASES-s/5.htm

I do like that Milwaukee is now selling their high end tool kits in injection molded Pack-Out containers. Still don't like storing everything in dedicated containers, but at least the cases are useful for something and not just land-fill fodder.
wow that's super garbage. like. barely even harbor freight "quality"
 

HardtailHack

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Don't worry, only the cheapie tool companies, like Snap-On, use them.
You get cases? My battery ratchet was just handed to me. Really wish I'd bought the SP brand ratchet, you can't crack bolts with the Snap-On in tight locations as the battery protrudes from the front, it's such a poorly designed POS.

I don't mind those cheap cases as long as they have a proper hinge and a slider for closing.
 
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canadmos

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May 29, 2011
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You get cases? My battery ratchet was just handed to me. Really wish I'd bought the SP brand ratchet, you can't crack bolts with the Snap-On in tight locations as the battery protrudes from the front, it's such a poorly designed POS.

I don't mind those cheap cases as long as they have a proper hinge and a slider for closing.
Reading this has such parallels with Ave's rants on Fapoff and Milfuckee. :rofl:
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

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Tools are weird. I've been beating the shit out of and improperly using cheapo tools for over 20 years that are still going strong and I hear tons of stories of top of the line shit failing after a handful of uses, only to have the replacement do the same.

Both mechanics tools and woodworking tools btw
 

Westy

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Nov 22, 2002
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Tools are weird. I've been beating the shit out of and improperly using cheapo tools for over 20 years that are still going strong and I hear tons of stories of top of the line shit failing after a handful of uses, only to have the replacement do the same.

Both mechanics tools and woodworking tools btw

I've never had a tool fail because of the case it came in.
 

StiHacka

Compensating for something
Any local monkeys interested in a DAG2.2 brand new for cheap? Ordered it about a week before they came out with the new version and only used it once. The packaging is long gone and I did use it so trying to return it would feel morally wrong, even though it is Amazon.

I know @StiHacka doesn't need it, because he just uses a sundial, a bunch of zip ties and a loaf of bread.
Guess what - I have one and it fixed plenty of bent hangers on my bikes and on bikes of my friends. What makes the new version so much better?

If you had a nice wood case for it though... :boss:
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

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Guess what - I have one and it fixed plenty of bent hangers on my bikes and on bikes of my friends. What makes the new version so much better?

If you had a nice wood case for it though... :boss:
- significantly less play in main pivot. The bigger your wheels are, the more this matters.
- gauge rod locks into position and rotates out of the way to clear stays/chain/tires. No o-ring horseshit.