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bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
Don't need, won't buy, but kind of want.


@bullcrew you're up :busted:
Yeah I'd buy it for the cool factor..way precision...I do like CNC work and I love precision...it's an art form and when executed right makes me want it...must touch vise!!!!

I have a Wilton tradesman that I've been hammering on for 15 years...son of a bitch is still flawless...(Maybe not precision lol)

My Wilton has
Helped build race cages , suspension, welding, grinding, notching, fixxed a crap ton of misc stuff and handled thousands of shocks, dampers, etc for repair...has a hammer flat that I've used countless times to deform and shape edges, plates and over correct..

Best third hand I've had ..most used single tool I have ever had...

Oh I have so many dirty comments that I'm refraing from, lol that last comment leave it easy to do ..
 
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Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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Yeah I'd buy it for the cool factor..way precision...I do like CNC work and I love precision...it's an art form and when executed right makes me want it...must touch vise!!!!

I have a Wilton tradesman that I've been hammering on for 15 years...son of a bitch is still flawless...(Maybe not precision lol)

My Wilton has
Helped build race cages , suspension, welding, grinding, notching, fixxed a crap ton of misc stuff and handled thousands of shocks, dampers, etc for repair...has a hammer flat that I've used countless times to deform and shape edges, plates and over correct..

Best third hand I've had ..most used single tool I have ever had...

Oh I have so many dirty comments that I'm refraing from, lol that last comment leave it easy to do ..
I've got a 70's era 1755 that I bought used. Its good, but the base needed replacing as the teeth stripped out so it no longer stays locked. I can still source a base from Wilton but it's $150. Ouch.

If I were doing it over again, I'd spend a little extra for the C series with a more robust base and superior locking mechanism. Some day I'll pony up for an 8" jaw behemoth.
 

bullcrew

3 Dude Approved
I've got a 70's era 1755 that I bought used. Its good, but the base needed replacing as the teeth stripped out so it no longer stays locked. I can still source a base from Wilton but it's $150. Ouch.

If I were doing it over again, I'd spend a little extra for the C series with a more robust base and superior locking mechanism. Some day I'll pony up for an 8" jaw behemoth.
Mines 1755 lol
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HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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Phwoar, look at the length of that handle!
That's a vise made for doing stuff.

EDIT- What are the wires coming out of the freezer seal?
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
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Yakistan
Phwoar, look at the length of that handle!
That's a vise made for doing stuff.

EDIT- What are the wires coming out of the freezer seal?
That freezer had some sensors in it that needed to be kept at 36* F so that was a lil thermostat plugged into the power cord that cycled the freezer to keep it a cooler.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
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I've been waiting for someone with an 18V battery I own to make a decent duster, will be great for drying the cleaning alcohol outta fork lowers and blowing out brushed motors at work.
Pre-ordering this-
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Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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Gotta give credit where it's due, big thanks to @crabjoe for whipping this up on his 3D printer for me. Now to work on filling up those 1.5 billion empty slots.

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canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
22,453
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Canaderp
Saw a video of someone crimping a cable end with these today.

Looks pretty dreamy.


Only concern is the bulbous proportions of the tool itself, might make it tricky working with short cable ends on things like dropper levers.
 

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
7,464
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Minneapolis
I made custom pins for those years ago.

Absolute pain in the ass.

Build a set of six indenters holding +- .0002 to go into a store bought tool with .010 slop.
 

Happymtb.fr

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2016
2,100
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SWE
Pretty sure I've said this before but old broken or bent punches are good for making roll pin starters.
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Do recut your Fox air shafts?
Here a new Fox 36 Na2 air shaft is around 100€. I am use to get 3 from RS for that price! I have a 160mm and need a 140mmm. Is it just pushing the pin out, cutting 20mm away, drilling a new hole for the pin and mounting the piston back?
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
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Do recut your Fox air shafts?
Here a new Fox 36 Na2 air shaft is around 100€. I am use to get 3 from RS for that price! I have a 160mm and need a 140mmm. Is it just pushing the pin out, cutting 20mm away, drilling a new hole for the pin and mounting the piston back?
This is a Manitou air shaft, it just uses spacers to change travel but I can't use the fork because the one O ring I needed to make the air spring work wasn't in my full rebuild kit. It's weird how much was missing, I think @Jm_ bought the kit and took out the bits he needed then returned it.

When you put the pump on the silver shaft moves up and fills the pos and neg chambers at the same time.
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I need to have a better look at my Formula fork, it looked like they may just use threaded spacers for different wheel sizes and maybe have the same air spring and damper.... I was just doing a lower service on it so I didn't look too hard.

Suntour lost me as a customer when they moved to a RS/Fox style air spring.
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
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This is a Manitou air shaft, it just uses spacers to change travel but I can't use the fork because the one O ring I needed to make the air spring work wasn't in my full rebuild kit. It's weird how much was missing, I think @Jm_ bought the kit and took out the bits he needed then returned it.

When you put the pump on the silver shaft moves up and fills the pos and neg chambers at the same time.
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I need to have a better look at my Formula fork, it looked like they may just use threaded spacers for different wheel sizes and maybe have the same air spring and damper.... I was just doing a lower service on it so I didn't look too hard.

Suntour lost me as a customer when they moved to a RS/Fox style air spring.
Suntour went away from the coil negative? I guess that explains why dvo came out with an air negative option.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
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Suntour went away from the coil negative? I guess that explains why dvo came out with an air negative option.
Yeah maybe two years back.
New air shaft for each travel setting.

I need to have a better look at my Mezzer to see if it can be made dual air then use tokens like other forks.
To fill the pos chamber you'd just remove the seal from the IRT.
To do the neg you could probably just shorten the pushrod to stop it activating the top valve.
But you'd have to have more POS pressure than neg at all times or the valve would open....?

It's late, will look after work next week.

EDIT- I will say that the coil neg spring in my Selva is far superior to the one that was in the Durolux. In the Selva the coils are under compression for at least 4" of stroke so you don't get the contact clunk nearly as often, it's also less sticky, the plastic slider thing in the Durolux sucked.

Comma splice, huzzah!
 
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HardtailHack

used an iron once
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Saw a video of someone crimping a cable end with these today.

Looks pretty dreamy.


Only concern is the bulbous proportions of the tool itself, might make it tricky working with short cable ends on things like dropper levers.
There are crimpers with a swivel anvil set so you can crimp end on but they won't do an Insta worthy hex crimp.

Wiedmuller and some Swiss or Swedish mob make them......maybe Pressmaster.

Glue lined heat shrink and a lighter.
 

HardtailHack

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Got a Sapim Nipple driver which is an absolute piece of shite, so I needed to make something better-
Spray can straw and heat gun to the rescue.
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boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
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Before I go find a 160 + ton press for making shovel heads - I decided to find a sheet metal brake first. I was surprised at the cost, so I watched some youtube videos and went to the local supply shop. $50 later I have myself a sheet metal bender. Now I am considering if I should mount it to a table or make a pedestal. @gonefirefightin that welder has come in handy!

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Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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Before I go find a 160 + ton press for making shovel heads - I decided to find a sheet metal brake first. I was surprised at the cost, so I watched some youtube videos and went to the local supply shop. $50 later I have myself a sheet metal bender. Now I am considering if I should mount it to a table or make a pedestal. @gonefirefightin that welder has come in handy!

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Is said 160 ton press for stamping out the heads only? Or for stamping and forming?
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
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Why are you making shovel heads? Have you developed new digging technology?

Wouldn't it be easier to hand forge them, then sell to hipsters for their free range organic gardens?
It all started with the rakes and then my friends were complaining about the shovels.

I found a guy selling hand made artisan shovels in Canada for $200 each. It didnt even address the things we wanted different.

Now we've got a design and need to make a prototype.


We're thinking "Dirt Jump Tools" or "DJT"

"MAKING TRAILS GREAT AGAIN"
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
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Crawlorado
It all started with the rakes and then my friends were complaining about the shovels.

I found a guy selling hand made artisan shovels in Canada for $200 each. It didnt even address the things we wanted different.

Now we've got a design and need to make a prototype.


We're thinking "Dirt Jump Tools" or "DJT"

"MAKING TRAILS GREAT AGAIN"
This the design you were talking about seeking a patent for?

If you post it up (though maybe not, deoending ok the above) I'm sure the engineers here can offer feedback the design to manufacture process.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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It all started with the rakes and then my friends were complaining about the shovels.

I found a guy selling hand made artisan shovels in Canada for $200 each. It didnt even address the things we wanted different.

Now we've got a design and need to make a prototype.


We're thinking "Dirt Jump Tools" or "DJT"

"MAKING TRAILS GREAT AGAIN"

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