Yeah but how fast do riders go in world cups???? As per the OP
As someone suggested on the uci webpage are the speedtrap results next to times. Just look it up. Usualy the top speeds are 60-70kph
I hope you were under the influence dave- as you seem to have agreed with everything I wrote. Zee beer goggles are thick, no?
They have started running those here in socal as well. Not sure if Sanbernardino caounty has any yet, but I have seen at least three of them in riverside county now. From my understanding, its a computerized system. There is a radar at each corner of the vehicle placed at an appropriate angle to measure speed. It uses the vehicles own curent speed Via an average of all four wheels through the ABS system, compares it to at least two of the radar readings, and gives a display. So if you pass him up while he is sitting still, a front and rear radar reading will give the speed of the vehicle passing, if he is driving and you pass, it will calculate the speed by comparision, same if your going the other way.
From what I get its extremly accurate, far more accurate than an officer holding a radar stationary due to all the calculation the computer that is controlling it is doing<current speed, angle of read, comparision between radars, alot more that was listed off when I asked about it>
Really is a pretty cool setup
I got pulled over with moving radar 8 years ago here in Vermont, it's been around a while.
Yeah its been there for awhile, just getting super refined now....super accurate now, no figuring needed by the driver anymore....
Looks like we agree, then. I would think the limiting factor is finding a section that's sufficiently long, straight, and smooth, rather than any combination of aerodynamics and rolling resistance, since it takes a long time to reach terminal velocity and steep trails aren't in short supply. In any case, this certainly wouldn't be a typical DH trail, as you said.
P.T.W,
The OP's question was answered long ago, which is why we've moved on to assorted ramblings and squabblings.
We did a Kamikaze run down a mowed section of ski trail at one our our races last summer. They had a radar gun clocking us, I think the winner was in the mid 90's (km/h) If did 87 or so.
Someone had a speed gun at Mt. Snow in 06 I think, and the rumor was that Minnaar came through what I call the Chris Boice Road Crossing at 50 mph. It was the section where you came left over a pipe and straightened out down a dead straight, very steep section, into a fire road crossing by the little barn building and then into some disgusting holes. Dave Camp recorded over 50 at the bottom section of Telluride as well. Also, I guarantee that anyone who has let go of their brakes on the way down the ski run from the gondola to the top of Garbanzo has hit 50. To those claim 50 doesnt happen, you're wrong. The winning pace at MSA last year was 31 mph, and it was slow in the upper woods in the mud, so I think it's pretty safe to say almost everyone in that race hit 50 at some point. Hell, on the speed trap at Sol Vista, several people hit 35 mph, and that was on a straight with pretty moderate pitch, the one that now leads into the negrodamus jump.
here is a good vid
http://video.mpora.com/watch/VtSiYre5T/
http://video.mpora.com/watch/VtSiYre5T/
about a million.
there is nowhere to hit 50 at MSA... the speed trap is on the fastest part of the track and the speeds were not even close to that.
I've read none of this thread except the last 3 posts.
So FWIW.
Here are the top 20 speedtrap (KPH) of 2009.....all at Ft. Bill...
Speed L_Name F_Name Location
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69.498 MINNAAR Greg FTB
68.912 PEAT Steve FTB
68.754 HANNAH Michael FTB
68.597 BLENKINSOP Samuel FTB
68.233 DALE Sam FTB
68.13 HILL Samuel FTB
68.078 STRAIT Kyle FTB
67.771 VAZQUEZ LOPEZ FTB
67.567 ATHERTON Gee FTB
67.516 GUARDIA PASCUAL FTB
67.466 WARREN Cody FTB
67.365 HART Danny FTB
67.264 BRYCELAND Josh FTB
67.164 WALLNER Robin FTB
67.164 GWIN Aaron FTB
66.964 BEAUMONT Marc FTB
66.864 MACDONALD Brook FTB
66.815 LEOV Justin FTB
66.815 GRAVES Jared FTB
66.666 RENNIE Nathan FTB
Top 20 Not at Ft. Bill.
Speed L_Name F_Name Location
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63.847 MINNAAR Greg PMB
62.068 BLENKINSOP Samuel PMB
61.822 POLC Filip PMB
61.822 PEAT Steve PMB
61.578 GRACIA Cédric PMB
61.538 BAREL Fabien MSA
61.498 BENNETT Kieran PMB
61.468 PEAT Steve MSA
61.349 GSPAN Dominik LBS
61.336 PAYET Florent PMB
61.336 HILL Samuel PMB
61.096 HART Danny PMB
61.096 GUARDIA PASCUAL PMB
61.016 HANNAH Michael PMB
61.016 NEETHLING Andrew LBS
60.879 LEOV Justin MSA
60.858 COLE Cameron PMB
60.858 RUFFIN Thibaut PMB
60.858 THIRION Rémi PMB
60.779 NEETHLING Andrew PMB
So FWIW.
Here are the top 20 speedtrap (KPH) of 2009.....all at Ft. Bill...
Speed L_Name F_Name Location
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69.498 MINNAAR Greg FTB
68.912 PEAT Steve FTB
68.754 HANNAH Michael FTB
68.597 BLENKINSOP Samuel FTB
68.233 DALE Sam FTB
68.13 HILL Samuel FTB
68.078 STRAIT Kyle FTB
67.771 VAZQUEZ LOPEZ FTB
67.567 ATHERTON Gee FTB
67.516 GUARDIA PASCUAL FTB
67.466 WARREN Cody FTB
67.365 HART Danny FTB
67.264 BRYCELAND Josh FTB
67.164 WALLNER Robin FTB
67.164 GWIN Aaron FTB
66.964 BEAUMONT Marc FTB
66.864 MACDONALD Brook FTB
66.815 LEOV Justin FTB
66.815 GRAVES Jared FTB
66.666 RENNIE Nathan FTB
Top 20 Not at Ft. Bill.
Speed L_Name F_Name Location
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63.847 MINNAAR Greg PMB
62.068 BLENKINSOP Samuel PMB
61.822 POLC Filip PMB
61.822 PEAT Steve PMB
61.578 GRACIA Cédric PMB
61.538 BAREL Fabien MSA
61.498 BENNETT Kieran PMB
61.468 PEAT Steve MSA
61.349 GSPAN Dominik LBS
61.336 PAYET Florent PMB
61.336 HILL Samuel PMB
61.096 HART Danny PMB
61.096 GUARDIA PASCUAL PMB
61.016 HANNAH Michael PMB
61.016 NEETHLING Andrew LBS
60.879 LEOV Justin MSA
60.858 COLE Cameron PMB
60.858 RUFFIN Thibaut PMB
60.858 THIRION Rémi PMB
60.779 NEETHLING Andrew PMB
WTF?!? Did you just post actual FACTS???
On the internet?!?!
Someone ban this guy before he makes the rest of us look foolish!
*Edit*
If I were Rennie, I'd be stoked with the 66.666 kph.
On the internet?!?!
Someone ban this guy before he makes the rest of us look foolish!
*Edit*
If I were Rennie, I'd be stoked with the 66.666 kph.
Not really. Sam's winning run was 23 seconds faster than that. The 3:10 Dan puts down in the vid would have put him around 110th in the semi, not even good enough for the finals.
this whole thread is kinda silly.
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http://video.mpora.com/watch/2sTG8Ady7/
Well here is a vid of some local haunts. I put my GPS on today and hit 42.7 kph at the 6:32 - 6:42 min mark on the drop in the vid and I wasn't hitting it as fast as I have due to a wet track. Just something for those interested
Well here is a vid of some local haunts. I put my GPS on today and hit 42.7 kph at the 6:32 - 6:42 min mark on the drop in the vid and I wasn't hitting it as fast as I have due to a wet track. Just something for those interested
damn 52 mph on a DH course? i have a hard enough time hitting 45 on my road bike with 53t-12t.
but the max avg. is about 40mph which is about 64km.
its funny sometimes you feel like your doing 40-50 mph but your really only doing about half that!
but dont forget this is the internet. the last DH race i did my avg. was about 77.356km. so i mean my top out must have been near 100km. but im just guessing.
Yeah this puzzles me too. I did a week in the mountains in Mallorca this year on a road bike (my first time on one, loved it!) and struggled to break 45mph (GPS) on the descents. Yet in previous years I swear I've had >45mph come up on my DH bike computer on rocky fireroads in the alps. Obviously gradient is key, but some of the Mallorca roads seemed pretty steep - I was surprised I was only hitting 45mph, regardless of whether I tucked or span like a bitch!
a buddy and i broke 50mph on our all mountain bikes coming down a dirt rd in bristol ny (stid hill rd) his wife was following us in their truck
2006 Canadian National DH Championships had a speedtrap, Pro Men winner that day hit 79km/h, mid packers Pro (like me, haha) were right around the 68-72km/h.
Best part was the speed trap was placed before a jump that if you didn't hit at least 60km/h you landed in a man made rock garden, about 50% of the people were flatting if they didn't gap it. Great incentive to pin
Best part was the speed trap was placed before a jump that if you didn't hit at least 60km/h you landed in a man made rock garden, about 50% of the people were flatting if they didn't gap it. Great incentive to pin
There's actually some good info in this thread. A friend with a 5" bike (with speedometer) was following me down a fire road at Keystone and he hit 28 mph. I was definitely going faster than him, maybe a few mph. If the pros are hitting nearly 70 kph, that's low 40s in mph. I figured mid to high 30s seems reasonable for amateur race speeds.
When I pulled out to pass big-ted going down there, I pulled out into a bit which was much rockier than the rest. At about 45mph I got an instant flat. Was a bit of a sketchy moment to say the least, and had me walking/bussing back to Morzine to build a new wheel. Fun days
Yeah, those rocky fire roads in the PDS are so sketchy/fun. From Chatel down to Les Linderets with the water bars or from the Mossette lift down to Les Linderets are probably the scariest to hit without braking.
I'm never great on remembering the layout of places around Linderets - this was the one (I think) that turns left around that man-made mini-reservoir thing before it takes a straight line down into the valley. From the singletrack off of the road by Avoriaz IIRC?
Is that the one that cuts through the bottom section of the French National?
Only place of I can think there is where it comes out and straightlines down to the Mossettes lift.
The one from the Chatel bike park back into the Linderettes valley is pretty hairy, lots of walkers on that normally & a flat hairpin halfway down after a long flat out section. The drainage ditches are pretty lethal on that too.
Anyone tried the one that takes you from Avoriaz (through the hotel complex) down into the valley ending by the Morzine/Avoriaz telecabin? Thats possibly the scariest one of the lot, steep and loose as hell with loads of off camber corners.
Only place of I can think there is where it comes out and straightlines down to the Mossettes lift.
The one from the Chatel bike park back into the Linderettes valley is pretty hairy, lots of walkers on that normally & a flat hairpin halfway down after a long flat out section. The drainage ditches are pretty lethal on that too.
Anyone tried the one that takes you from Avoriaz (through the hotel complex) down into the valley ending by the Morzine/Avoriaz telecabin? Thats possibly the scariest one of the lot, steep and loose as hell with loads of off camber corners.
Yeah that's the one I think.
The ditches on the Chatel one are indeed amusing at speed... especially when you have a herd of cattle spread across the track! Glad to say I was leading, easy to carve around them; meant they were stampeding by the time my mates came through though
The Avoriaz one you're talking about is called Gravelanche I think - a few friends have mentioned it, somehow I've never ridden it, always trekked back up to the top of SuperMorzine instead, or occasionally drafted each other down the road into Montriond.
The fastest I've gone was 57 according to my computer...... was on the Ribbon trail in Grand Junction, Colorado.