[4130biker]

I'm building up an SX trail (edit: 2010), and I don't have a lot to spend on a fork, which limits me to an older 36 van-160mm, or a totem. Not interested in going with marzocchi on this one.

So I'm looking at a totem coil fork- an '09 which has hardly been ridden. My question is: what, if anything, has changed about the damper? It appears that the '09 was a "mission control" damper, and that the new one is called "mission control DH"... While the DH in the name sounds appealing, I'm wondering if it's actually more down-hill-ey, or better in some way. Could someone who has had both could shed some light on this for me?

Thanks for any help!

 

[4130biker]

Anyone, anyone??

 

[TWeerts]

mission control DH does not have a bump threshold that must be overcome to initiate suspension motion. mission control, on the other hand, does.

 

[frango]

I think Mission Control DH is based onn Boxxer internals...

 

[4130biker]

ok, thanks- I have seen some that have modified their dampers, would it be to remove that bump threshold somehow?

I'm not super picky, as long as the older version performs fine, I don't need to have the latest and greatest.

 

[Beef Supreme]

ok, thanks- I have seen some that have modified their dampers, would it be to remove that bump threshold somehow?

I'm not super picky, as long as the older version performs fine, I don't need to have the latest and greatest.

The flood gate mod is really easy. It does make the fork more supple but I haven't ridden a newer fork so I can't make a comparison there.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/technical-tuesday-lyric-mod-2010.html

 

[4130biker]

That explains everything- thank you!

 

[dreads]

take into consideration specialized might still limit fork travel on sx trails like they did in 06 at 170mm and a totem is 180mm so unless you lower it they may void warranty for running a taller fork. also snapped an sx trail at the head tube with a totem on it, but it was from casing a jump so probably wouldve happened on a smaller fork anyway

 

[aenema]

Mission Control DH does not have floodgate at all but also has a lot more oil volume and oil flow during suspension action. I have ridden original mission control, modded mission control where floodgate was removed (highly recommend if running older style) and the new DH. DH is better for everything except if you want a floodgate engaged on a 180mm fork but the older style modded without floodgate feels pretty good too. Prices being similar, I would go with the DH but would not overlook the older setup.

 

[4130biker]

take into consideration specialized might still limit fork travel on sx trails like they did in 06 at 170mm and a totem is 180mm so unless you lower it they may void warranty for running a taller fork. also snapped an sx trail at the head tube with a totem on it, but it was from casing a jump so probably wouldve happened on a smaller fork anyway

Good point, I will check into it before I buy one. What year was yours? I thought, maybe incorrectly, that the '09-current frames were the same with a different shock. Anyone know if the 09,'10 frames are "allowed" with a 180 fork?

 

[4130biker]

Mission Control DH does not have floodgate at all but also has a lot more oil volume and oil flow during suspension action. I have ridden original mission control, modded mission control where floodgate was removed (highly recommend if running older style) and the new DH. DH is better for everything except if you want a floodgate engaged on a 180mm fork but the older style modded without floodgate feels pretty good too. Prices being similar, I would go with the DH but would not overlook the older setup.

Great input, thanks for replying! I'm thinking I can get an older version quite a bit cheaper, so I'll probably go with that. But if I can afford a mission dh, I'll go for it!