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Tour Day Cali 2008

OGRipper

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
Ok, despite all the scandals I can't help but get excited for this race.

I am going to the team presentation tonight and plan to go check out the prologue on Sunday as well. I'm gonna try to check out another stage but probably won't be able to make it happen.

Predictions?

Maybe safe choices but I'm going with Cancellara for the prologue and I have to give Levi the nod again for the overall.
 

maddog17

Turbo Monkey
Jan 20, 2008
2,781
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Methuen, Mass. U.S.A.
i wish i could see that race in person. i'm hoping they get the montreal to boston race in order. the only major race i've seen was the tour dupont back in the day. got to see the final stage when it was in Boston
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
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Denver
My wife just said, "We should go see part of the tour someday. We can combine it with a work trip and visit some wineries."

She fockin' rocks.
 

dhmike

Turbo Monkey
Dec 20, 2006
4,307
42
Boise Idaho
i betting on levi again to win the tour of ca. on a side note my older brother is a profesional photographer and the lucky bastard gets to shoot the tour. he's pretty excited .
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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Looks like Rock Racing may be pulling out. The thing that kills me about the Puerto investigation is the lack of a resolution, its open, its closed, its open again.....cycling has yet to move on from the investigation, and its been two years. I wish they would either dole out the suspensions or close the damn case for good, the uncertainty is not good for cycling

Ball freaking out:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb16news2

AEG saying his guys can't ride:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb16news3
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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My wife just said, "We should go see part of the tour someday. We can combine it with a work trip and visit some wineries."

She fockin' rocks.
Drinking is a job now? If I would have known that could happen, I wouldn't have ever stopped :)
 

maddog17

Turbo Monkey
Jan 20, 2008
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Methuen, Mass. U.S.A.
how convienent that Puerto was re-opened and that the ToC has that little part in their agreement that riders can't be part of an open doping investigation! not that i want to get all X Files about this, but it is a bit strange that Puerto is re-opened and the three guys from Rock racing just happened to be part of it. you could say someone has it in for them and anyone else named in that MCF (mongolian cluster f**k) it's too bad for those riders, they served their suspensions, did their time and they still get screwed out of racing. funny how Amgen tells these guys they can't race when they were part of a doping scandel too if i remember right. nice case of the pot calling the kettle black. could be AEG just hates Ball and this is a way to twist his nipples a bit for fun.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
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Denver
woohoo! Go Zabriskie! Go Slipstream.

Dave's in under 4 minutes! w00t!


Also, the crowd turn-out is fantastic!
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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0
Danbury, CT
I DVR'd it, then realized that yes, I had canceled the "sports package" a while back, as I only got it for the Tour last July. Dumbass.
Time to call the cable company and open my wallet again I suppose. Bummer though, it was on for 2 hours today, and looked like a great stage.

Fabian living up to the rainbow jersey, good for him!
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
17,412
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Looks like Rock Racing may be pulling out. The thing that kills me about the Puerto investigation is the lack of a resolution, its open, its closed, its open again.....cycling has yet to move on from the investigation, and its been two years. I wish they would either dole out the suspensions or close the damn case for good, the uncertainty is not good for cycling

Ball freaking out:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb16news2

AEG saying his guys can't ride:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb16news3
Seems like sour grapes now. Even if every rider who they kicked out was doping according to Puerto, their suspensions would be over now.
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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how convienent that Puerto was re-opened and that the ToC has that little part in their agreement that riders can't be part of an open doping investigation! not that i want to get all X Files about this, but it is a bit strange that Puerto is re-opened and the three guys from Rock racing just happened to be part of it. you could say someone has it in for them and anyone else named in that MCF (mongolian cluster f**k) it's too bad for those riders, they served their suspensions, did their time and they still get screwed out of racing. funny how Amgen tells these guys they can't race when they were part of a doping scandel too if i remember right. nice case of the pot calling the kettle black. could be AEG just hates Ball and this is a way to twist his nipples a bit for fun.
You can take your tin foil hat off now. Only Hamilton served a suspension, not Botero or Sevilla...although when this thing originally broke Botero went back to racing in Columbia and avoided the Euro scene (admission of guilt in my eyes) and Sevilla has had trouble securing a contract. I don't think there is any conspiracy, but I don't understand why riders are still being left out of races....they are saying that the investigation will only focus on the Dr. now, not the athletes.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
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Denver
I DVR'd it, then realized that yes, I had canceled the "sports package" a while back, as I only got it for the Tour last July. Dumbass.
Time to call the cable company and open my wallet again I suppose. Bummer though, it was on for 2 hours today, and looked like a great stage.

Fabian living up to the rainbow jersey, good for him!
Versus is on a dedicated sports package? It's on basic cable here.

While it was two hours, race coverage was only an hour. First hour was overview and recaps.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
1
Denver
Excellent first day for the new, up-and-coming future dynasty...
Code:
1.  	42  	SUI 19810318	CANCELLARA Fabian	CSC	00.03'51"	00.00'00"
2.  	38  	GBR 19800428	WIGGINS Bradley		THR	00.03'55"	00.00'04"
[B]3.  	98  	USA 19840602	FARRAR Tyler		TSL	00.03'56"	00.00'05"[/B]
4.  	1  	USA 19731024	LEIPHEIMER Levi		AST	00.03'57"	00.00'06"
5.  	36  	NOR 19870517	HAGEN Edvald Boasson*	THR	00.03'58"	00.00'07"
6.  	45  	SWE 19800920	LARSSON Gustav		CSC	00.03'59"	00.00'08"
[B]7.  	92  	USA 19790112	ZABRISKIE David		TSL	00.03'59"	00.00'08"[/B]
8.  	32  	GBR 19850521	CAVENDISH Mark*		THR	00.03'59"	00.00'08"[b]
9.  	91  	GBR 19770104	MILLAR David		TSL	00.03'59"	00.00'08"
10.  	96  	USA 19850303	COZZA Steven*		TSL	00.04'00"	00.00'09"[/B]
11.  	141  	USA 19780922	JACQUES-MAYNES Benjamin	BPC	00.04'00"	00.00'09"
[B]12.  	93  	USA 19760522	VANDEVELDE Christian	TSL	00.04'01"	00.00'10"[/B]
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
6,199
4
Slipstream has a lot of riders up there, it will be interesting to see how they do in the Tour de France
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
1
Denver
Slipstream has a lot of riders up there, it will be interesting to see how they do in the Tour de France
yeah man, they hold FIVE spots in the TOP 12... considering there are 17 teams with about eight riders each, that's dominance! :)


STAGE ONE
Just watching it, but pretty darn cool that they held a Woman's Crit at the finish line. Gives spectators a lot for their money!

And the men do three laps of the crit as well at the end. They've really designed it for maximum spectator fun! :)
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
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Denver
Great finish. Cancellara was funny celebrating his teammate's victory long before he crossed the line :)

Code:
1.  	42  	SUI 19810318	CANCELLARA Fabian	CSC	04.07'20"	00.00'00"
[B]2.  	98  	USA 19840602	FARRAR Tyler		TSL	04.07'22"	00.00'02"[/B]
3.  	38  	GBR 19800428	WIGGINS Bradley		THR	04.07'24"	00.00'04"
4.  	1  	USA 19731024	LEIPHEIMER Levi		AST	04.07'26"	00.00'06"
[B]5.  	91  	GBR 19770104	MILLAR David		TSL	04.07'27"	00.00'07"[/B]
6.  	45  	SWE 19800920	LARSSON Gustav		CSC	04.07'28"	00.00'08"
[B]7.  	92  	USA 19790112	ZABRISKIE David		TSL	04.07'28"	00.00'08"[/B]
8.  	141  	USA 19780922	JACQUES-MAYNES Benjamin	BPC	04.07'29"	00.00'09"
9.  	33  	GER 19860919	CIOLEK Gerald*		THR	04.07'29"	00.00'09"
[B]10.  	93  	USA 19760522	VANDEVELDE Christian	TSL	04.07'30"	00.00'10"[/B]
Slipstream has FOUR riders in the top 10 GC! w00t!

But I'm confused, does anyone know how the Team Standings are calculated? Slipstream's in THIRD place?!
 

maddog17

Turbo Monkey
Jan 20, 2008
2,781
90
Methuen, Mass. U.S.A.
i thought it was total time of all riders and whatever time bonus's the riders get. maybe even points or time off for certain amount of riders finishing within a certain time limit or placing
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
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Denver
i thought it was total time of all riders...
I think the TdF is the first three riders of a team to cross on any given day. It doesn't have to be the same rider.

I remember Lance one time letting a team mate get a stage win while he hung back to pull a teammate across to keep 1st place for Team competition.
 

maddog17

Turbo Monkey
Jan 20, 2008
2,781
90
Methuen, Mass. U.S.A.
i like how Cancellara is upset with the 3 Rock guys hanging around their team and still at the race. what a tool!! he better hope he's never on the end of that rope.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
1
Denver
Was it Cavendish that broke off the front at the end? What happened, just ran out of gas? He had such a huge lead towards the finish.

Very cool that the 'old' man Cipollini finished strong.

And now for your homer posting...
Code:
[B][color=red]1.  	98  	USA 19840602	FARRAR Tyler		TSL	09.16'54"	00.00'00"[/color][/B]
2.  	42  	SUI 19810318	CANCELLARA Fabian	CSC	09.16'55"	00.00'01"
3.  	22  	BEL 19801015	BOONEN Tom		QST	09.16'58"	00.00'04"
4.  	38  	GBR 19800428	WIGGINS Bradley		THR	09.16'59"	00.00'05"
5.  	33  	GER 19860919	CIOLEK Gerald*		THR	09.17'01"	00.00'07"
6.  	1  	USA 19731024	LEIPHEIMER Levi		AST	09.17'01"	00.00'07"
[B]7.  	91  	GBR 19770104	MILLAR David		TSL	09.17'02"	00.00'08"[/B]
8.  	45  	SWE 19800920	LARSSON Gustav		CSC	09.17'03"	00.00'09"
[B]9.  	92  	USA 19790112	ZABRISKIE David		TSL	09.17'03"	00.00'09"[/B]
10.  	141  	USA 19780922	JACQUES-MAYNES Benjamin	BPC	09.17'04"	00.00'10"
[B]11.  	93  	USA 19760522	VANDEVELDE Christian	TSL	09.17'05"	00.00'11"[/B]
 

OGRipper

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2004
9,750
179
NORCAL is the hizzle
Great finish! Pretty sure Cavendish thought he was leading out someone else. I have to admit I was really hoping Cipo would get the win - there is something I like about how he is so over-the-top. But Boonen would not be denied.

Today should see some interesting changes in the leader board.
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
3,559
0
Danbury, CT
i haven't been following too closely but i noticed on another site that someone was selling tee shirts that said let Levi ride. anyone know what this is about?
To try and change the mind of ASO and let Astana into the Tour, so he and Contador (and Kloden I guess) can defend their titles/podium places.
 

JRogers

talks too much
Mar 19, 2002
3,791
1
Claremont, CA
Was it Cavendish that broke off the front at the end? What happened, just ran out of gas? He had such a huge lead towards the finish.

Very cool that the 'old' man Cipollini finished strong.
I read that Cavendish was supposed to be leading out Ciolek, but Ciolek either didn't follow or held back and Cavendish kept going because his earpiece fell out- he couldn't hear the director yelling at him. By the time he turned around, he saw that he was alone and decided to give it a go for the win.

And, yeah, pretty cool that Cipo seems to be in shape. I figured he'd get killed.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
1
Denver
I read that Cavendish was supposed to be leading out Ciolek, but Ciolek either didn't follow or held back and Cavendish kept going because his earpiece fell out- he couldn't hear the director yelling at him. By the time he turned around, he saw that he was alone and decided to give it a go for the win.
Very interesting.


And today's homer recap...
Code:
1.  	1  	USA 19731024	LEIPHEIMER Levi		AST	13.45'30"	00.00'00"
2.  	42  	SUI 19810318	CANCELLARA Fabian	CSC	13.45'43"	00.00'13"
3.  	53  	NED 19860531	GESINK Robert*		RAB	13.45'45"	00.00'15"
[B]4.  	91  	GBR 19770104	MILLAR David		TSL	13.45'50"	00.00'20"[/B]
5.  	45  	SWE 19800920	LARSSON Gustav		CSC	13.45'51"	00.00'21"
[B]6.  	92  	USA 19790112	ZABRISKIE David		TSL	13.45'51"	00.00'21"
7.  	93  	USA 19760522	VANDEVELDE Christian	TSL	13.45'53"	00.00'23"[/B]
8.  	4  	USA 19711023	HORNER Christopher	AST	13.45'55"	00.00'25"
9.  	101  	SUI 19721222	MOOS Alexandre		BMC	13.45'59"	00.00'29"
10.  	166  	COL 19740710	PENA Victor Hugo	RRC	13.46'01"	00.00'31"
11.  	28  	BEL 19770209	VANDEWALLE Jurgen	QST	13.46'03"	00.00'33"
[B]12.  	94  	USA 19861224	PETERSON Thomas*	TSL	13.46'03"	00.00'33"[/B]
13.  	52  	COL 19790521	ARDILA CANO Mauricio	 RAB	13.46'06"	00.00'36"
14.  	25  	BEL 19860912	SEELDRAEYERS Kevin*	QST	13.46'13"	00.00'43"
15.  	77  	SUI 19810509	ZAUGG Oliver		GST	13.46'17"	00.00'47"
16.  	141  	USA 19780922	JACQUES-MAYNES		 BPC	13.49'53"	[B]00.04'23"[/B]
Tyler Farrar abandoned due to illness :( Good kid, hope he doesn't take it too hard. However, Slipstream has FOUR riders in the top 12! And if you'll notice the huge gap between 15th and 16th place.
 

OGRipper

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2004
9,750
179
NORCAL is the hizzle
Jeez, I know he would kick my butt and all but Levi: Come on Dude! Attack muthafugga, attack!! He had the contenders on the ropes early on that last climb and might have been able to put the race away. I know it's his style but damn, I'd like to see him be more aggressive and put it on the line more often. Now he is going to need a huge time trial AND a great performance on the last day.

Overall though it's a good race with no clear winner right now, so that's cool. Props to slipstream for having a bunch of guys up there. It would be awesome if Zabriskie wins.
 

Heidi

Der hund ist laut und braun
Aug 22, 2001
10,130
673
Bend, Oregon
Sorry I'm late to the party. I've been watching the tour every night and while it's not the greatest or longest coverage, hey, it's coverage. My thoughts on yesterday...

FRIGGIN ATTACK LEVI!

I felt REALLY bad for Farrar. If I was going to abandon a road race I think I'd tell my team guy to pick me up after the race in the bushes and I'd hide. Riding in the loser mobile would suck ass.

The dude running with the giant rack of antlers was awesome.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,033
1
Denver
I also like antlers-man!

As for Levi, I got the feeling that he didn't have any extra in the tank to attack. Sounds like he made a deal Gesink: we work together to get to the line and you can have the stage win.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
36,651
3,475
Sleazattle
Antler guy rules. He must be in good shape to run along with those guys as long as he did.

It seems weird watching those stages and not hearing the roar from the crowds like in the euro races.