i'd rent a small camper, douche it out with bleach, stock up on food, and be on my merry way. fuck airplanes right now.
Travel resumption post-COVID
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shit I drove a truck and horse trailer from SF to Lexington KY in 4 days last Nov It aint that hard. RV rentals are dirt cheap these days. small class c and they don't need to interact with anyone except to buy groceries. sleep safely in the truck stops on the highway
I tried to talk them into doing the road trip. However, they are not experienced RVers or campers and did not feel comfortable with an undertaking of that size. To some of us that may sound like a dream trip, but that is a hell of a big road trip during the best of times.
For a bit, I considered driving them across myself, but I think that would've ended in my divorce, maybe theirs and none of us ever speaking again.
I agree with fuck airplanes sentiment, but I really think it is only gonna get worse once more states start opening back up.
To repeat: fawk!
For a bit, I considered driving them across myself, but I think that would've ended in my divorce, maybe theirs and none of us ever speaking again.
I agree with fuck airplanes sentiment, but I really think it is only gonna get worse once more states start opening back up.
To repeat: fawk!
The vents blow clean air. A mix of outside air and recycled air pushed through HEPA filters. You get sick from the coughing asshole behind you, not from.the vents. At altitude planes refresh air rather quickly, those fuckers leak like you wouldn't believe.
Your best bet is to have the vents blow directly at your face.
If we go to CO this summer to see my brothers, this is our plan.
what about a private compartment on Amtrack I did that once, the seats fold down into a bed, meals can be delivered to the compartment price was not bad. no hanging with the hoards
I read that vents on is actually safer, as the air is largely bleed air from the engines and thus not recirculated? @Westy , help here?
Edit: saw his post a few above mine. :thumbs:
1 fuck airplanes
2 if you must, do it Right Now and don't wait.
It does depend on altitude and a fair bit of variability between each plane, both model and individual builds. The goal is to have a tightly sealed fuselage as less bleed air means less fuel burn but it is pretty difficult to seal super tight. I doubt the relationship is linear but the models I am familiar with you get about 1cfm of air exchange per seat. All vent air should be well filtered.
Honestly, right now is probably the best time to fly if you have to fly before a vaccine or Jesus cures this thing. Planes are still flying damn near empty, plenty of space to avoid the sticky guy in sweatpants with skin tags and Covid, make yourself defensive buffer with the vents in the surrounding seats blowing away from you, and yours piped directly onto your face, mask up, rail some lines of Lysol, wash your hands and feet, then sit back, relax and enjoy the friendly skies.
Yeah, until I saw that the other day, I was pretty much thinking that this was the perfect time for them to travel.
The Untied website now says that if a flight gets booked to more than 70% capacitys, they'll call to discuss travel options.
fuck airplanes. is there an echo in here?
Oof, a twitter link? Think I'd rather eat spagetti off the floor of Elmhurst than go to Twitter, that's a hard pass
I'm assuming it's something about airlines now operating in a more Floridian manner?
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is this thing on?
Wow. Isolation brings 'em out of the woodwork.
This thing it's on. Don't touch anything and cover your damn face!
Basically that what you and I both said about now being the best time to fly is completely incorrect and it turns out, now is not a good time to fly.
Chuffer: you buyin a van bro.
will aiming them at the asshole coughing help?
My wife has yet to cancel our summer trip to Ireland, Scotland, London & Paris scheduled for late July/Aug. Not keen on the thought of traveling right now nor will I be until a vaccine of some sort is available.
Too bad newer planes have no vents to adjust anymore.
So, in the end we wrapped Mom & Pop in all manners of PPE, loaded them up with sanitozers & extra PPE and reviewed correct protocol from everything from TSA interactions to using the shitter. Then we put them on a plane.
The report:
First class was full on both legs of their flight.
Economy Aisle and window seats were 85% ish.
Economy Middle seats were 100% empty.
Planes loaded back to front.
Every person they saw during the entire trip wore a mask.
PDX and SFO had a surprising number of amenities open. Bookstore was open in SFO.
BOS was locked the fuck down. They said there was one DunkinDouche open in the terminal they came into. That was it.
The only really shitty part of the trip was people behaving like people. Seatbelt light turned off at the arrival gate and every motherfucker in the plane tried to jump up and sprint to the front. Just like the good old days. Luckily we told the folks to stay put when that happens and wait for some deviant from the bell curve of human douchebaggery ( someone with a little decency) to allow them room to stand up safely....
Guess we'll know sometime in the next 2 weeks how it really went...
The report:
First class was full on both legs of their flight.
Economy Aisle and window seats were 85% ish.
Economy Middle seats were 100% empty.
Planes loaded back to front.
Every person they saw during the entire trip wore a mask.
PDX and SFO had a surprising number of amenities open. Bookstore was open in SFO.
BOS was locked the fuck down. They said there was one DunkinDouche open in the terminal they came into. That was it.
The only really shitty part of the trip was people behaving like people. Seatbelt light turned off at the arrival gate and every motherfucker in the plane tried to jump up and sprint to the front. Just like the good old days. Luckily we told the folks to stay put when that happens and wait for some deviant from the bell curve of human douchebaggery ( someone with a little decency) to allow them room to stand up safely....
Guess we'll know sometime in the next 2 weeks how it really went...
Similar of distribution of results from the NASIOC version of this thread.
We are idly discussing whether it'd be safe for the mother in law (lives alone in Seattle, not interacting with anyone/social distancing at the 2 days per week she's in the office) to fly here to visit my kids. Not sure yet.
If we had, say, cheap and available antigen tests that might make me feel more comfortable.
Folks just finished their 14 day self quarantine. Nary a cough or elevated temp in sight. :knockonwood:
Jeebus, I can damned near taste the stress induced rage in that one. Guess I was a mite worried out putting the folks out of the house and into a germ tube...
i used to travel in place. now I travel on planes w/ 12 flights last year. once I forgot the vent on full blast in my face, got stick. Always crank up the vent on to blow the others germs away from yer body. I expect to drive XC is safest for now.
The drive back from CA wasn't fun - you can do the round trip in 4 days if you want to be involved or it's a 2 day if she can make 2 12hr days (SEA-SLC, SLC-DEN). Plan, as much as possible, around Costco for gas and bathroom breaks (higher safety standards) and using rest areas (people don't linger there).
Maybe it's just me, but I enjoy a good road trip, especially if you don't have a strict schedule. I treasure the 3 days I got to spend last year driving the moving truck from CO to MA with my dad, even if I did 100% of the driving. He had a great time staring out the window at stuff and places he'd never seen before, and it gave us a great opportunity to talk.
Speak for yourself. Foot goes *tap tap tap*.
once i get to vegas.....open two weeks of roaming....
There is one on 70 in Eastern Utah with stall walls about 5' tall. Even in my periphery vision, I can see the toilet if I am at the farthest right urinal.
You in a van? Wife and I went north out of Vegas and in through the Nevada side of Death Valley. What a weird and unique place.
supposed to be a ford transit....we shall see....
I will probably be back on the road for work shortly, but luckily most customers are still very restrictive about letting outsiders in...
My biggest concerns are travel delays caused by airlines playing reindeer games to keep flights full, travel delays by passengers who get flagged not to fly (symptoms, no mask, etc.) and accessibility to decent food. Catching COIVD-19 is a concern, but pretty avoidable via actions that I am 99% in control of.
Already had a discussion about the food issue. Colleague asked me why I was worried about food, because McDonalds and Wendys are still open. That guy is dead (to me) now...
My biggest concerns are travel delays caused by airlines playing reindeer games to keep flights full, travel delays by passengers who get flagged not to fly (symptoms, no mask, etc.) and accessibility to decent food. Catching COIVD-19 is a concern, but pretty avoidable via actions that I am 99% in control of.
Already had a discussion about the food issue. Colleague asked me why I was worried about food, because McDonalds and Wendys are still open. That guy is dead (to me) now...
I'm likely to have to travel in August, SIL is sending a few KN95's.
Unsure what I'll do about feeding myself and also concerned about hotel HVAC...
Unsure what I'll do about feeding myself and also concerned about hotel HVAC...
i might have to go into the office for an afternoon next month. :gasps:
You're welcome to my respirator if you need it. You'll need new filters though, they were used for MIL house cleaning.