So is the money you spend at Walmart and the money you are giving banks that you didn't choose to give them, so what's your point?
Point is there is little that is or can be 100% American anymore.So from your wording you are saying it is a bad thing? I am just asking, because I am new to biking I own a trek, but just did not know if I should look for handmade bikes from usa instead
You are implying that bikes made in China and Taiwan are made by machines. Last I checked Chinese people were not machines. The bikes you speak of are hand welded, painted, built and packed by hand.Bikes made from a person who can make mistakes often< bikes made from a machine that is precise and exact.
So are you a machine then?/sorry- I always get ticked when I see the machines building bikes comment.
//No I'm not Chinese.
Taiwanese, maybe big difference Taiwan is not China...So are you a machine then?
irate2:
You are implying that bikes made in China and Taiwan are made by machines. Last I checked Chinese people were not machines. The bikes you speak of are hand welded, painted, built and packed by hand.
See if you can find a picture of the elusive bike making machines.
/sorry- I always get ticked when I see the machines building bikes comment.
//No I'm not Chinese.
i dont know about 50%.Most american cars are assembled of parts built in the US. The last Dodge Ram had >50% of its parts from china iirc...
As Sanjuro mentioned, most of Santa Cruz bikes are now made in Taiwan even the high-end VPP2 bikes.So, if you've got the dough, look for who's local and reputable or to companies like Ventana, Santa Cruz, Igleheart, Wojick, etc, etc. Most of us will be jealous of your new ride.
I would trust bikes and parts made in China and Taiwan before I would trust anything made in the U.S. We sell Specialized at my shop, and they are by far some of the sickest bikes around. A lot of the Ellsworth and Cannondale bikes I have checked in for repair have been broken or cracked somewhere on the frame, infact the first thing I look for is cracks in U.S. made frames. I have never seen a broken Specialized.
Bikes made from a person who can make mistakes often< bikes made from a machine that is precise and exact.
He said he does. There is a huge difference between poor quality control with manufacturers shipping broken bikes and end-users breaking bikes. All brands have warranty issues...you need to work at my LBS , I personally have broken 3 But I love Specialized there warranty is great.
buy a spooky or eastern woods research then.Would it be considered a bad thing that most of your $5000 treks & specialized are made in china/taiwan? im just ranting really..
Two of the bikes you listed are made in Taiwan.If you are going to spend $5k on your ride you might as well buy american anyway, Titus, Yeti, Ellsworth, etc. Thing that sucks is that if you want an american bike you need to spend $2k on the frame alone.
I can't talk though, my bike was made in switzerland... but then again I didn't have a $5k budget. I did spec as many American parts as possible though, wheels, drivetrain, most of the hardware... all american made.
What US-made drivetrain are you running? Pos rep if you're correct, neg rep if you're wrong...I can't talk though, my bike was made in switzerland... but then again I didn't have a $5k budget. I did spec as many American parts as possible though, wheels, drivetrain, most of the hardware... all american made.
He's got Paul's and Gorilla Billet for awesome shifting performanceWhat US-made drivetrain are you running? Pos rep if you're correct, neg rep if you're wrong...
Jeez, are you serious? He would deserve an additional pity +rep if that were the case...He's got Paul's and Gorilla Billet for awesome shifting performance
NahJeez, are you serious? He would deserve an additional pity +rep if that were the case...
Where are the BMC bikes manufactured?
The prototypes of all BMC bikes are developed, produced and assembled in Switzerland. BMC is one of the few Swiss bicycle manufacturers with its own manufacturing facility on site. Some of the frames come from Taiwan and Poland. The Time Machine TT01 is manufactured completely in Switzerland.
The MSRP for the Taiwan made Fourstroke 03 frame and Fox Float R shock is $1250. While BMC is a Swiss company, their USA distribution is through the mega bike and parts distributor Quality Bicycle Products (QBP).
All I'm saying is that the down tube says "Swiss Made".BMC website clearly states Taiwan and Poland. Assembled and manfactured are not the same thing. Also Dirtrag also mentioned the Fourstroke is Taiwan made too, it does not make sense that a design that shares parts would not be made in the same place:
http://www.bmc-racing.com/en/us/home/faq/#c430
http://www.dirtrag.com/print/article.php?ID=806&category=features
I owned a pair of real hubs back in the day... do I get pitty rep for that. That free hub was the ultimate in failure.Jeez, are you serious? He would deserve an additional pity +rep if that were the case...
The sticker was printed in Zurich.All I'm saying is that the down tube says "Swiss Made".
ya and the truck itself was not built in america though. also explains why so many of the dodge trucks are huge piles of **** when compared to their Japanese counter partsMost american cars are assembled of parts built in the US. The last Dodge Ram had >50% of its parts from china iirc...