Compact pickups used to be compact. Now even the Tacomas are approaching mid to full size. WTF?
Trucks that seat 4-5 people and don't suck...
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Dunno.
You can't get them at all in California, which is retarded, because you can buy biodiesel at my local health food store.
Jeep Scrambler. Do it.
i went thru this last summer and wound up buying a used '01 Taco 4 door. The thing about it is that the bed it tiny.. the new gen Tacos have a lot deeper bed and they are wider too.
But, if you want compact, then look at the previous gen Tacos... but good luck finding a good quality used one, and if you do, be prepared to pay top $ for it.
It does exist its just not in the US
thats the UK version, the version from south America is real nice too, and they come with a 3.0L common rail diesel engine
And it looks like they took the Euro model TO THE US for the promo shots?!!!They did, but not here.
We lose.
Epic fail.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/18/ford-launches-new-diesel-engine-for-the-ranger-in-europe/
Ahgr...rrrr.
That's what I just went through on Saturday. I had a list of 6 trucks, all 4cyl 89-94 (I don't care for the Taco body lines and the early V6's suck ass without a ton of upgrades). Book is $2k but all of them were asking $4k or more.
One truck was a bone stock standard cab standard bed DX model without a radio. Sticker was $4999 and it had 305k miles! Guy said it will be gone in a week.
I did finally get an '89 with 175k for $2400. A little more than I wanted to pay, but it runs like a champ.
I say pick up a used sh!tty hatchback that you won't care about getting mulch in the back of, and rent a truck from HD for $20 when you need to haul anything bigger. We fit 50 retaining wall blocks in my wife's Focus a couple weeks ago, handled the job just fine (twice, actually).
I fit nearly a half cord of split firewood in the back of my old CRX one year. I still wish I would have kept that little car, 50mpg was awesome.
also have fit an 8' ladder inside my tC, as well as 10' trim pieces. hatchbacks are awesome.
FYI, the new Tacomas are made in the USA.
I haul big items often. Renting a trailer or truck from U-haul or HD is not feasible, I'd be dropping $200 a month on rentals.
No minivan, no hatchback.
Get it through your thick skulls people, I NEED A TRUCK.
Option I just thought of: Sport Trac or similar with a lumber rack....hmmm.....
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/874375661.html
$3600 with shell
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/869527476.html
$5900 with shell and pimp wheels
I've read that it's largely the U.S. consumer perception that diesel is "dirty" - no one buys them here so it's not cost effective for manufacturers to bring them to market.
Its because it is higher in some emissions and the cost engineering and certify them to pass emission is expensive for a demand that is hard to gauge. VW stopped selling them for a while until they made a new emissions system. Their urea system for larger engines still isn't out.
Why not just get Yakima style rails and take off the bike stuff when not in use? Lumber racks are a pain in the ass and make a truck handle even worse than a truck.
I helped make a bridge for a friend that went into the stake pockets on the back of the bed and was level with the roof rack bars. That way you can run crap from the roof to the back. Toss up a couple of 2x4's to support things like drywall, too. Because it was just a bridge, it didn't take up space when not in use.
No its because the EPA does whatever CARB says and CARB hates diesels for their own reasons (PM linked to cancer). So in effect they forced the EPA to legislate diesels right out of the light-duty market. Then the went after the light heavy-duty market (full-size pickup trucks).
In addition to legislating ridiculous emission levels within unreasonable time scales, they also legislated technology. For the longest time they were only going to allow LNX technology and not UREA based after-treatment. I think in recent years they have started to lighten up but for awhile it was a mess.
So SkaredShtles is right 
All he would have to do is paint a mural on the side of it to be rock and roll.Of course I'm right.
H8R has a rock-n-roll image to maintain.
I don't blame him for being a wuss on the minivan front.
i've seen full 4'x8' sheets of gyp board easily hauled in a ford Windstar..
That's MUCH cooler than a minivan, man...All he would have to do is paint a mural on the side of it to be rock and roll.
You *can* haul drywall and all kindsa other crap in a minivan.
If you don't mind the interior getting thrashed and the carpet getting filthy.
And not having enough room for giant drum cases. Or lumber.
Or easily being able to load and scoop out bulk materials like mulch, sand and soil.
It's not a vanity thing. I drive a base model Ranger for fvck's sake. I don't worry about looking like a nerd, so that's not the problem.
Minivans suck eggs out of a donkey's ass, that's the problem.
that is true.. that windstar blew an engine with 150k on it...
a real POS.
i've thought about getting a lumber rack made for my Taco so I can actually haul something with it.. as i said the bed it tiny and even more so now cuz i put a tool box on the bed.
look at a commercial grade 4 dr taco.. all white, no bells and whistles priced to sell.
http://www.toyota.com/businessfleet/vehicles/tacoma/coo_vehicle.html
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How did she get a job at Hooters, anyway?
You do see that herpes sore on her lip don't you?
By the way, **** Toyota. I dont care where they're made. You're probably supporting terrists by buying one.
^^^ I call BS, based on that rack there is no way she actually worked at Hooters.
EDIT: Damn you guys are fast.
EDIT: Damn you guys are fast.
I laughed so hard I had to leave my cube.^^^ I call BS, based on that rack there is no way she actually worked at Hooters.
EDIT: Damn you guys are fast.
I owe BS rep.
FYI,
They don't make a "fleet" level double cab. In order to get the double cab, you have to get the Prerunner and upgrade to the real truck chassis. Not a bad thing since the GVW on the 5 lugs is much lower.
It's a nice truck though and they can be had all day long for $25k.
And MMike, you're just grumpy because your wife won't let you buy a truck.